Hypothetically Thinking

Hey all. Extending my southern hospitality. Multifaceted, diamond in the rough.
My focus is the breeding auto flowering cannabis. However I also find interest in skunk related genetics.
For all reference, my preference here is only meant to reflect the “what If’s” of cannabis. As the title states, hypothetically thinking.
Topic that discuss are only theoretical and not meant to be used as a guide to persuade anyone ideals about cannabis.
Often my allusion reflect subjects that I read, or encounters with others.
Let’s dive right in with something that A renown breeder said that didn’t seem right by my calculations.
This breeder said no one will make a billion dollars of cannabis. Money motivated as well as Industrial minded, I decided to crunch some number. A shipping container can carry 60k pounds of marijuana. Let’s divide that by ounces which comes to 960,000 ounces when u multiply 60k x 16. @40 and ounce, that container will be worth $38,400,000 ganja bucks. Meaning that you wouldn’t have to fill that shipping container but 26 times to make a billion dollars. You do the math.
However not everyone is paying $40 an oz. @ $100 an ounce, it will only take about 10.41 shipping containers of bud to reach that billion gunja bucks.
Now let’s use $270 that the breeder says he was paying for good smoke. Which equals 259,200,000 million dollars. By anyone’s calculations, it would take less than 4 shipping containers to make a cool billion in gunja bucks. That’s real $$$.
Often I read article about the burning of rainforest to raise cattle. Takes too much efforts to harvest trees due to the secluded locations. Anyway, that’s some real bs, in more ways than one. Hypothetically thinking, those cattle that are being raise on rainforest land are be raised to provide an unending source of high grade fertilizer. Beef, timber, marijuana, keep thinking Juan was only carrying coffee beans.
Anyway, the figures don’t lie as massive grow operations are Literally being found in our own backyards.
Checking out the brickleberry episode season 1 episode 3 for some amusing insight.
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The depots charging $40 a oz are paying about $22 whole sale after adding in over head they making about $0.50 off that $40 oz so the depo would have to sell 2bil zips to make 1 bil. The indoor growers have power soil and equipment cost of about $150 a lb so the getting about $200 a lb they would have to produce 10mil LBs to net a Bil. Outdoor legal whole sale is $175lb so a little more then 10mil LBs
Black market growers are getting about $2k lb so 500k lbs to get a bill. You don't move 1/2 a mil lbs on the black market with out paying out a shit load of bribes, legal fees, fall guys, enforcers, excetra. There are better ways to make crime pay if you dream of a billion.
The first legal marijuana billionaire will be the guy the can manage to develop a robust market for 5k clones

I dunno, someone like Berner might do it, but it wouldn't just be weed sales. The clothes, hats, hoodies, etc.

Depending on where the future of legal cannabis goes in the US, certainly big pharma or big tobacco could make that kind of dough.

MtRainDog said:

I dunno, someone like Berner might do it, but it wouldn't just be weed sales. The clothes, hats, hoodies, etc.

Depending on where the future of legal cannabis goes in the US, certainly big pharma or big tobacco could make that kind of dough.

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Yeah a weed company could easy be worth well over a billion, even have that kind of earnings yearly but no one man is gonna net a bil even in a decade or 2 legal side is to expensive of a game to get into and too competitive. Yes it will be a cash cow for a lot of people but not on those kinds of margins. And on the black market side where the margins are way higher the volume is still just to high. People either don't get away with running that size of enterprise or they live in isolation to do it.

The moment Monsanto, Pfizer, J&J, Philip Morris ect. decide to get in the weed game I say we all hand out free weed publicly and destroy the commercial market

VaSmile said:

Yeah a weed company could easy be worth well over a billion, even have that kind of earnings yearly but no one man is gonna net a bil

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^^^

VaSmile said:

The moment Monsanto, Pfizer, J&J, Philip Morris ect. decide to get in the weed game I say we all hand out free weed publicly and destroy the commercial market

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I do my part already!

Good thoughts guys. ^^^
Hypothetically … you have a strain that does an exceptional job at treating …
psychological disorders such as depression, anxiety, and schizophrenia, suicidal thoughts. Which are the most treated psychological disorders.
Say your strain also treat neurological disorders such as epilepsy, Parkinson’s disease, multiple sclerosis, sciatica pain.
Your strain is also good at treating auto immune disease such the devastating rheumatoid arthritis that causes severe pain in most of the body’s joints. S
Your strain instantly alleviates pain in the hands and in the lower back. Sore muscles after hard work or heavy exercises no longer exists.
Your strain is so effective, that it is able to alleviate pain associated with cancer. It also alleviate gastro intestinal pain and other crohn’s related symptoms. As any sufferer know, pain associated with the gi tract are the just as bad as the worth toothache.
Say your strain makes people look and feel as if they were 25 years old again. Users become healthier, their eyes, taste and smell, and physical abilities return to them. Also sexual performance in both men and women return to a youthful state.
Mental faculties are so improved that lost memories returns. Forgotten passwords are remembered as you had just made them up. Intelligence is increased so dramatically, that the user can now understand concepts in math and science, that they couldn’t even dream about.
The consumption of your strain leaves the person feeling as if they had literally fallen into the fountain of youth. It is a miracle to mankind as it’s only negative effects, if you can call them that, are center around thinking like a 25 year old and also having their the sex drive like again.
This is all hypothetical of course.
Let’s be realistic and think of the income that this type of strain could generate. let’s not ignore the number of aging and ailing people all over the world. And not just the elderly, because kids are also stricken with debilitating diseases.
You have in your hands a strain that will allow most sick people to return to a normal and healthy life. Statistics say that 60% of the 332 million Americans are sickly. That’s approximately 200 millions Americans who could benefit from your miracle strain. Talking about a cult following. Not even mentioning the people from other countries who will also benefit. That’s not including those who smoke recreationally all over the world.
This is an inconceivable notion for most of you, giving what you have experienced with cannabis. Some of you read as many post as I do and know daily there is someone who is looking for strains with the same amazing properties that I speak of. Obviously these people know something that most of you don’t know. Therefore what if the whispers are true.
Smoking buddies are asking each other have they had it. Dispensaries workers are constantly being asked about it. Making it rather obvious that cannabis corporations haven’t gotten their hands on it. Meaning there will big gain$ for those who do.
Think about what they are making off those party favorites, cakes, cookies and ice cream. Just think about what could be profited off this hypothetical strain if someone was to bring it to market.
Then comes the biggest question of it all… is it to be release to the people who gripe about paying for a seed pack, or sell it to a major corporation who profits are astronomical. Which would you do. Hypothetically, of course.
It’s just a dream. However I wouldn’t sleep too long because you aren’t getting any younger. And those medical expenses are still racking up. How much do you owe some doctor who hasn’t healed anything. Who’s pills only mask the symptoms so you keep returning in worse shape than when you first started to visit him. Pill popping isn’t healing as it only exacerbates the problem due to the toxicity of cheap synthetic drugs. Visit after visit. How long most of you been returning to the physician for the same thing, coupled with the negative effects of the unnatural drug that was giving to you. Dreaming of the day that you will be health again.
You guys think that over. Hypothetically of course.

The average salary of an S&P CEO is 16m
Let's say we got a $100b company with $1b in annual earning the CEO would get paid around $30m it would take him 33years to earn $1b off the weed industry and he wouldn't work that long because with that kind of income he would make more off investments after 5.
Let's say you have a paid for fertal farm and your grow ops cost nothing but time, and you got a corner on lock and can flip a lb a day at full retail($500/oz)
At 8k a day you would need to be on that corner for 125000 days 340 years

Blutri said:

Good thoughts guys. ^^^
Hypothetically … you have a strain that does an exceptional job at treating …
psychological disorders such as depression, anxiety, and schizophrenia, suicidal thoughts. Which are the most treated psychological disorders.
Say your strain also treat neurological disorders such as epilepsy, Parkinson’s disease, multiple sclerosis, sciatica pain.
Your strain is also good at treating auto immune disease such the devastating rheumatoid arthritis that causes severe pain in most of the body’s joints. S
Your strain instantly alleviates pain in the hands and in the lower back. Sore muscles after hard work or heavy exercises no longer exists.
Your strain is so effective, that it is able to alleviate pain associated with cancer. It also alleviate gastro intestinal pain and other crohn’s related symptoms. As any sufferer know, pain associated with the gi tract are the just as bad as the worth toothache.
Say your strain makes people look and feel as if they were 25 years old again. Users become healthier, their eyes, taste and smell, and physical abilities return to them. Also sexual performance in both men and women return to a youthful state.
Mental faculties are so improved that lost memories returns. Forgotten passwords are remembered as you had just made them up. Intelligence is increased so dramatically, that the user can now understand concepts in math and science, that they couldn’t even dream about.
The consumption of your strain leaves the person feeling as if they had literally fallen into the fountain of youth. It is a miracle to mankind as it’s only negative effects, if you can call them that, are center around thinking like a 25 year old and also having their the sex drive like again.
This is all hypothetical of course.
Let’s be realistic and think of the income that this type of strain could generate. let’s not ignore the number of aging and ailing people all over the world. And not just the elderly, because kids are also stricken with debilitating diseases.
You have in your hands a strain that will allow most sick people to return to a normal and healthy life. Statistics say that 60% of the 332 million Americans are sickly. That’s approximately 200 millions Americans who could benefit from your miracle strain. Talking about a cult following. Not even mentioning the people from other countries who will also benefit. That’s not including those who smoke recreationally all over the world.
This is an inconceivable notion for most of you, giving what you have experienced with cannabis. Some of you read as many post as I do and know daily there is someone who is looking for strains with the same amazing properties that I speak of. Obviously these people know something that most of you don’t know. Therefore what if the whispers are true.
Smoking buddies are asking each other have they had it. Dispensaries workers are constantly being asked about it. Making it rather obvious that cannabis corporations haven’t gotten their hands on it. Meaning there will big gain$ for those who do.
Think about what they are making off those party favorites, cakes, cookies and ice cream. Just think about what could be profited off this hypothetical strain if someone was to bring it to market.
Then comes the biggest question of it all… is it to be release to the people who gripe about paying for a seed pack, or sell it to a major corporation who profits are astronomical. Which would you do. Hypothetically, of course.
It’s just a dream. However I wouldn’t sleep too long because you aren’t getting any younger. And those medical expenses are still racking up. How much do you owe some doctor who hasn’t healed anything. Who’s pills only mask the symptoms so you keep returning in worse shape than when you first started to visit him. Pill popping isn’t healing as it only exacerbates the problem due to the toxicity of cheap synthetic drugs. Visit after visit. How long most of you been returning to the physician for the same thing, coupled with the negative effects of the unnatural drug that was giving to you. Dreaming of the day that you will be health again.
You guys think that over. Hypothetically of course.

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Talk to me when this magical strain is developed. Even if it is you got about 1 year to milk it before someone has it reverse engineered and under cuts you

Any who….
As if the 40+ year search for RkS doesn’t continue.
So on with the Hypothetical show.
1 word description…. Deliverance.
Like being tea bagged by Thor’s during a lightning storm.
Since we are being hypothetical and all, why not dwell deeper.
Yields like the Congo at night
Smells like a 50’ zorilla’s azz.
Tastes like heaven.
Deliverance…. To be set free. Traveling the Astro planes, no sound, or light.
Magic. Science. AI it’s all about what you believe in. AI hasn’t delivered yet and neither has science gotten man off this rock.
Think outside the box.
To understand the artist, it wouldn’t be a masterpiece if it was easily duplicated.
Hypothetically, of course.
Anyway gentlemen. It’s beyond time for a change and take cannabis into the next century. I understand the importance of the past. As it is a reflection of the future. However it is our present that matters the most. As either can be changed in an instance. Science has no explanation for Magic.
It was ready 10 yrs ago. Hypothetically.
That’s what it is like to live in the past.
The future will “past” right by you

Hypothetically…
Im approached by a buddy who I share a blunt with from time to time. Oddly buddy started asking me about where I get my seeds and can he get some. The reason that I say oddly is because I know that not only does he do his on thing, but he is also in communications with the commercial growers in the area.
Refusing my none disclosure approach, buddy becomes insistent. Im now somewhat offended, however I chose to remain cordial, as this is nothing to discuss.
He starts making every excuse about why I should give him some of my gear. Making it rather obvious that he had ulterior motives Annoyed, I reply, “ do you think that I’m just going to hand my hard work over to someone?”
With no bags in sight. We are talking multiple bags.
More excuses. Of course eryone knows that I’m big into health, as I try to do as much as I can to help a person get their life back. So he starts to inform me that his daughter has grand mal seizures. And that he let his daughter hit the blunt that I left during our last session and her seizures disappeared for a short time.
Of course his daughter is an adult. So let’s put that out there.
Personally I thought that it was messed up because Instead of just asking me for enough to hold his daughter over for a while.

Guy is pouring it on thick by trying to entice me saying he know some people that are interested in my work. Give them something so that they will know it’s real. Reverse engineering by way of synthetic may be possible. Tissue culture if a fresh enough sample can be procured. Through a lil change at him and see if he will bite. What I mean by little, is opposed to the scheme of things. Therefore telling me that the operation is producing 1000 clones are gaining you any favors.
Because that’s my point. Clones, seeds, carts, resin, rosin, pounds, you name it, all come into the equation. So I’m like, that’s all good, but I don’t think that they are willing to afford me. He is like they got it. Hell of course I know that they have it, I see their initial investment.
I say on to him, he’ll these guys invested millions into something that they will have to share with thousands of others who also made the same investment. It’s enough to go around. Now that 1/8 are going for less than $10 at the dispensaries, some investors are jumping ship. $40 ounces are real.
Plus, the profit comes after the the expenditures that it takes to complete the grow.
Property and equipment are long term investment. And so are workers, therefore it takes a lot to churn out a decent living growing commercially. Especially when your license come with a plant count. Besides, just like you guys are saying, “no one man can do all of that.
Therefore why would some of you suggest that I don’t know all of this. I’m not one to jump into a sinking ship just because I see others jumping into it. Hey that’s a sinking ship. A sinking ship, so why jump into it.
Let’s change subject.
My buddy shows me 6x 1/8’s that he just got from the dispensary. The receipt was less than $40 wow. He said that he can smoke a lot for his money. However when he wants to get lit, he has to go to the weed man up the street.
He says I’m smoking this mess back to back and I’m not even getting hight… but my budget. The weed man wants $10 a g, when I can get a dispensary 8th for that…. But I’m not getting high. I know people who quit smoking before they do that type of crap. Yeah the opportunity presents itself, however I’m not into the recreational scene because it’s just not worth it to me.
Therefore my work may forever remain a folklore. Because when someone tells me that they wish that they could get smoke like mine for dispensary prices. I tell them, you get what you pay for. My reasoning. Chevrolet has the Cadillac and the Cruz. You don’t see them selling. Cadillacs for price of a Cruz.
Hypothetically thinking of course.

@Tolerance Break you are surely right brother. laugh out loud is what I do when I smoke some of the mess that I see some growing. Or should I say coveting.
I also laugh as I try to understand why a grower? Breeder? Insists on growing genetics that causes them to continuously have to take a break from in order for them to remain effective.
It makes no sense to me brother because we all know that in 7 days your tolerance and the effectiveness of the bud that you are smoking will be right back where it was before the tolerance break.
Oppositely, I break so that I can come down and once again experience the monotony of disillusioned life. It is that disillusionment that motivates me into keeping doing what I do
so that I never find myself in your situation.
Still laughing, but now I’m saying to myself… sadly, this guy is always promoting some cross. Definitely letting me know which of them to stay away from.
I know that its bad to used sever space in this manner. However, I did find Motivation in brothers mal-intent. I found it to be muse for a section of a short story about Julius Caesar that I have been working on.
Any way, you keep doing you as I will continue to do me. Which is provide smoke that people never tire of, or find to become ineffective. Smile.

As a breeder, the one thing I try to do is keep my work out of the10% that breeders often refer to.
Why so?
Because the 10% echelon of cannabis is 90% of what’s floating around. Therefore I don’t see the benefits of doing the same thing that 90% of the other breeders are doing.
What’s guys are referring to as the upper 10%, has fast become the new reggie… it’s everywhere.
I mean, who don’t have cookie’s taste, beleaf frost, blueberry’s quickness, or skunk’s smell? I can go on and on because everyone has in-house potency, or some landrace’s exotic spiciness. And if you don’t have it, I recommend you get it.
Thanks to modern breeding practices, what some refer to as the f1, polyhybrid, muddied genetics, it’s all to easy to get a combination of genetics that one can sequence into something extraordinary if they put forth the effort. And let’s not forget that you will also need the expertise.
You can have the best genetics in the world, and most of you do, but not having the know how to turn them into that 1% is pointless.
Having a 1% strain mean you took the time to separate yourself from that 90% of the 10%’er. Am I making sense to you.
When 90% of the 10% breeders/ growers cannot relate to your genetics, you know that are working with a 1% strain.
This isn’t something a breeder can lie about because in a hit or 2 any seasoned breeder will know what the mother and father of the cross is. They can tell if this is a fem breeding or if the cross was made of a male/female. Let’s did deeper and grow a seed pack out. A vet can tell you if those seeds are off the same plant or if they are off several different plants. Even if they are the same cross, they can tell you which class of plant that you use in your offering because Afghan, Thai, Columbian, American, landrace genetics are easy to spot because genetics don’t lie which makes it obvious when a breeder is lying to you.
Ever see a 42 day strain? Of course you have.
Ever see a super effective 42 day strain produce a pound? Now you are saying, “this dude is crazy, ain’t no way.”
By accomplishing feats like that is how you get into 1% class.
Elite because no many are willing to put in the work that it takes to produce such a product.
To do so with repeatability will put in a more elite class because it involves that much more work.
Today’s 10% class is tomorrow Reggie because changes in cannabis are happening that fast. The number of post by people who are burned out and need a tolerance break growing daily. No disrespect brother, hopefully you can relate.
Breeders come and go who choose to put themselves in that class.
On another note, I’m not worried about people copying my genetics or my work. I’ll tell you like a lady told me when I purchased one of her dogs. She said, “people will buy these dogs, pay good money, then ruin the bloodlines in a couple of years.”
Note to self, don’t ruin the bloodline. It’s been over 20yrs since I worked with that line of dogs, and from time to time people still call or come by trying a pup off it. Or asking do I know where they can find one. In fact about about a month ago, a long time buddy come by. Out of nowhere he says, “I know you have some of those dogs.” I’m looking at him like man where did that come from. Then he says, “I know you. I bet you got several dogs stashed out, that all you have to do is put them together and start all over again. Next he says, “I bet people who got them, don’t even know what they have.” I laugh at him at tell him fool get out of my yard.
I put that type of work in everything that I do because breeding is my passion. I been doing it for so long that manipulating genetics is my second.
I chose to get into the cannabis plant for medical reasons so that’s my fist priority. Therefore producing a plant fore filled the medical needs of me and my family became my only goals. So why not add a few extras that would also make my medical marvel also a commercial dream. Think ahead. The future.
Crippling arthritis, diabetes, cancer and host of mental issues. Most centered around anxiety and depression that sometimes escalate into schizophrenia and psychosis.
Also multiple sclerosis, seizures, and a host of other neurological conditions, includes the dreaded sciatica.
I studied the conditions and and even went to school for them. It’s the same way that I followed and studied cannabis when California first legalized it.
I saw no reason wait until I was desperately in need and unable to help myself because of either a mental condition or a physical affliction. Once again thinking ahead into the future. No magic or crystal ball, just common sense because I’m already seeing family member suffering from of these conditions that I planned for my genetics to treat.
All I can say is that it wasn’t easy because there is no simple process that can produce these type of results. So believe me when I say that I tried to save save time.
I learned from the past not to presently make the same mistakes that keep me or my genetics from moving into the future. I order to move forward into the future…. Is only part of what I mean when I make reference to the past, present and of course the future.
It’s my way of life and I incorporate it into everything that I do. Because I’m alway looking 5, 15, 20 years ahead of what I’m currently doing. Also never forgetting about the past when doing so.
My life reflects my willingness to take multiple avenues and endure the hardships that come with them. no way way. No free ride. And still able to smile and help those out who needed. It’s just my way. My smoke also reflects that same mentality.
Medicinal, powerful, trippy, tasty, long lasting, no burn out, wrapped up beautiful, fast and easy to grow package that produces well above average. And that’s without having to do any fancy manipulation techniques. Any way peace.

Often guys will ask what are elite genetics. The first answer is usually a popular cookie cross. Then someone will say follow up and say “they are all hype try this land race.” After that someone will say, “such and such got this strain.” Then followed by saying, I haven’t grew it out, or my favorite saying, I’m no longer growing it.
It’s the same routine with the same answers by the same people. It’s highly doubtful that these are bots, so the obvious conclusion is that these guys are paid influencers. Newbs jump on that crap hook line and sinker until they know better. By then they are out of a few grand spent on seeds and grow equipment. Not to mention the utility cost if they are growing inside. It all adds up.
By the time you have spent your money you could have gone to any dispensary and purchased bud for cheaper than you can produce it at home. Fact.
It’s obvious that marketing work. Those billions that the cannabis industry pulls in is not sole based one the harvesting of cannabis. Because it includes everything from that coco coir to the nutrients, the utilities, logistics, the manufacturing of products. Every body is making money. Except for who?
Hell they even got the doctors making money, and the laboratories. License fees. Land rentals, building costs. And a host of other expenditures that add up to those billions being raked in by the cannabis industry.
Unfortunately, some don’t get it. Let’s give them a name. How about we call them Uber growers. Uber- denoting an outstanding or supreme example of a particular kind of person or thing. Sounds like a great title to have. However I have another definition of Uber.
Uber is the person driving their own car, paying for their own fuel, maintenance, and spending their personal time picking up passengers. Any then give a large part of the income to the Uber company. Where I come from, we call that “being pimped.”
It obvious some like it like that. I see the same thing going on with the cannabis Uber growers. Lots of hard work and expenses with little to no profit.
Those investors who didn’t have the foresight to jump ship have been hit hard. With many more of them on the brink of loosing everything that they worked hard for.
Then someone will say cookies is making all the money. Or Monsanto or whoever else is leading in the market. While I’m like, can’t the Ubers see that they are all in it together. One big industry that’s riding on the back of the millions of cannabis lovers that occupy the country.
Unfortunately, for a few penny, most of them will do the normal and turn a blind eye to what’s going on. That is until it’s their time to loose all that they have worked for. The American dream. You had better wake your asses up. Because this is going on in every aspect of American life.
The food industry, the car industry, the housing industry. The clothing industry. Babies are being feed poison and no one is doing anything about it. Making it obvious that they are the ones who are selling the poison. And everything else that is destroying human life.
Her this fool go again. What he is talking about doesn’t have anything to do with cannabis is what most of you are saying. Therefore I ask, what industry is making more money than cannabis right now?
None because cannabis is and always will be the biggest industry on the planet. The number of people who don’t smoke bud is getting smaller and smaller. Hell they have even gotten our elderly to use weed by promising them better health since Covid has destroyed most of their organs. When will it end. When we all band together to stop it. X:

Elite strains, what I consider them to be. Being elite means more than a cross not being publicly circulated. Because if that was the case, every chuck would also be an elite.
Also elite doesn’t mean that it’s the strain on top of todays menu. When is an easy feat when it’s the only thing being served.
So what exactly is an elite. My answer elites are usually a cross, but also could be a random mutation, that produces cannabis traits that had never been seen before.
If done correctly, the mutation produced by such strains can be exploited for many generations. And who knows what unique gene combinations may come from them.
Such as the smell of the road kill skunk, are desert like tastes, or extra trichomes, faster growth or different colors and leaf shapes.
I mentioned to he leaf shapes because many of the mutation are just as benign, however there are those capable of producing strange growth patterns such as increased yields are shorter flowering times.
Mutations can also effect a plants cannabinoids so that it may have a higher or lower potency, or even produce strange medical effects. They can also give smokers all types of strange unimaginable reactions.
With so many mutations within the cannabis genome, there is no telling when something totally different will appear. Something elite, unique rather it produces new cannabinoids that induce strange physical traits when smoked, or something simple and a new unique taste or smells that are quite different from bud produced in the previous generations of cannabis.

My buddy calls me over and says, smell this. Which I could already smell when I entered his office. He hands it to me and then asks what do I think? I tell him it smells like red hots, or an atomic fireballs. It was even burning the back of my sinuses and throat just as the candy does.
I got a joint from my brother some years ago, and I’ll never forget the experience. I rolled a 1/2 g joint and fire it up. After the initial burn wore off, it the taste was like a cross between cinnamon toast and banana nut bread. At first I was wowed because I had never had anything like that before.
So I decided to take a few more than my normal 2 hits, as I was trying to enjoy the flavor that the joint had. Unfortunately, the joint begins to taste horribly. I was choking, my head began ring badly so I put it out.
Of course curiosity got the best of me so I fired it back up again hope the initial taste would return. Unfortunately, the taste and the horrible effects of the joint had worsened so much so, that it became a struggle just to inhale. And now my head is pounding as if someone was slamming it into a door.
I thought to myself, oh God, wtf is this. My head is pounding, and im in some type of funk somewhere In between being high and wanting someone to cut my head off. I felt so badly that I literally thought about running out into traffic.
My head pounded for hours. 8am until 2pm i but up with the tortures of smoking what I could of the joint. I trashed about 1/3 of it because of how sick it made me. I even wanted to take something for the headache, which is something that I don’t believe it. Finally I decided to smoke some of my usual and the head and horrible feeling cause by that joint immediately went away.
The same thing happened to me a second time when a buddy gave me a sample of some dispensary bud. Loud as f because I kept asking myself what is that smell every time I enter the room where I had it sitting. Fortunately, I had enough sense to only take a couple of hits. So that headache and horrible feeling only lasted a few hours the second time And yes I do know the strain.
I find it hard to believe that this type of stuff is still being offered. So now that I breed my own stuff, I make sure that it doesn’t do any of that type of crap to me or my friends and family.
Not having to settle is the beauty of breeding my own stuff. No one telling me what my plants should smell like, or taste like or smoke like. Or even look like.
Because a plant can look indica, grow like a auto, and smoke like a sativa. Chances are you are growing exactly that. See all those different leaf types on your plant. Why would a pure landrace show several different leaf types? It wouldn’t. Why would the high be so drastically different from plant to plant if you were infact growing something pure? It wouldn’t. The purple sativa is one that I really like.
I shake my head every time I see a purple sativa. Come on now, since when did it start getting cold enough in the tropic for a plant to turn purple.
Plants form tropical area wouldn’t have a need for a gene that would turn it purple during cold weather since that never gets cold there. Yet time and time again, someone make a post about the purity of their sativa with purple flowers all over it.
Fact if you were to place a tropical plant in none tropical conditions, that plant would die. Tropical temps are 72f - 95f year round no matter what side of globe you are own. Therefore the cold weather gene would have to be introduced into their genetics in order for them to survival out side of the tropics.
Beyond the tropics night time temps can easily ready 56 degrees or lower, which a death sentence for most plant species. So know you know why it’s virtually impossible to find a pure sativa genetic.
On the other hand, a plant was located that thrives high in the kush mountains. The effects of the cold ment that the plant was small and purple. It also has a very short flowering time because the limited time conditions in the mountains would allow for plant growth.
Another trait of the mountain plant was it thick fibrous branching. Which was needed to combat the high winds of the mountain range.
Fast, vigorous growth, short structure, thick branching, purple coloring, are all requirements for a plant to survive in the hostile mountains climate. The only negative is the low yields because of its short flowering time.
Since these are sativa growers, the think like a sativa grower who equate short flowering time to lower potency and effect. Couple that with lower yields, a profitable commercial plant this doesn’t make. Enter the hybrid.
The hybrid, a union between the bud of the Hindu/Kush mountains, aka the homeland of Buddhism and the South American tropical sativa. “
Follow that cab because it has dope in it.” Say when use while playing dominoes because we scored the same as the player before us. Follow the dope is what was done as the hippy trail was blazed directly to it source.
The reason breeding work was done there was because the tropical plants weren’t able to survive the short season and cold climate of the “kush mountains.”
Also, the tropical breeding grounds perfectly match the climate needed for the mountains bud to thrive in. As it was very intolerant to warm weather.
The hybrid bud was like no bud before. The high, the flavors, the yields all because of the hybrid vigor that occurred these 2 different types of buds was introduced to one another.
The dollar$ stacked up as the bud flowed. But like everything, all good things come to an end. As the vigor was lost due to the constant breeding and inbreeding of the plants, the effects became stagnant. The commercial-ists call it inbreed depression.
Therefore new plants were sought after in order to keep the vigor going. Tropic area after tropic area, new super plants would arise as people working in the area would create new hybrids. Tropical South America, Africa, Asia including the pacific islands.
Hybrid bud now dominated those local areas. Making impossible for anyone trying to sell bud that wasn't a hybrid. Therefore leaving no reason to keep the original type of bud. Death of the tropical sativa. When the man says it takes 45 minutes for sativa bud to get you high, you had better believe him. Those of you who are smoking on that bud that very quickly gets you high af, you too know that you are smoking on a hybrid.
The breeding of hybrids was done so indiscriminately that the indigenous bud no longer exists. All you have to do is follow the map and recount the wars that were fought in these areas. Often seemingly for no reason.
That which was supposed to be a war on drugs, was in reality an excuse to invade an area and exploit it for it rare cannabis varieties as well as any other valuable natural resources. As I said before, cannabis is “The Business” as it reiterates the fact that money does grow on trees. As well as any other Mountain or climate that matches those of the tropics.
Making it obviously easy to find. Thanks internet.
So when I tell you that the bud speak for itself, you had better believe me. Cannabis is my passion, my heart, my angel, my love.

Constantly reading. Come across a post about moon rocks being what you do to the larfy trash.
Then another about how to get concentrates rights,
Another guy says that he has spent over $14k on seeds and don’t have a single decent plant to show for it. The guy also went on to say that he had been holding on to a batch to seeds for over 20 years only to find out they were fakes.
Hats off to the last guy because not many are willing to admit to being taking for such a huge amount. And then to also admit that some of the seeds that he thought were precious, were only fake junk.
But that’s not the worst of it. This one guy wasn’t complaining at all as he talked about the Pakistani kush that he was growing. He was asking some other did the plants look right for 5 weeks of flowering. Then he said the plants were going as normal, which was automatically flowering after 4 weeks of veg. Which was typical for plant from that region.
Once again, the brother said that “automatically flowering after 4 weeks was typical of plants from the kush mountain region.”
And this brother didn’t get a single rebuttal.
My first thought then became, what about all these people growing “Pakistani chitral kush, pck” that doesn’t auto. You see, that’s what we are talking about.
Not only that, how many of you are growing a kush that isn’t sweet. No one, because there is no such thing. But for some reason, I’m constantly seeing people trying to push none- sweet kush strains.
Since legit kush is a sweet autoflower. Who knows what some commercialize kush is.
You see, that’s what happens when you buy into commercial genetics. Like they say, it is what I say it is, they don’t know the difference.
So when I see a guy working extra hard, trying to convince someone to buy into “generic genetics”, I have to assume that he is working for the pushers of said genetics. Think of these cats like a YouTube influencer that’s being paid to lead you into the direction of their product.
The only person pushing someone else’s products is someone who is being paid to do so. Especially when they have their own work. Which most guys around here do have.
I’m just saying,
I get a call this morning from a new client who was excited by how good they feel. The client was dealing with being overworked on the job, which caused a lot of physical pain, as well as the stress of dealing with multiple family issues. They felt overwhelmed as they did not know where to turn.
Thankfully, they were was guided into my direction, as this is what my cannabis endeavors are all about. Helping those in their time of crisis where pharmaceuticals have failed them.
I get calls like this all the time as they are my motivation to continue with my work. I look to a time when people no longer have to suffer from crippling diseases.
The constant watching of my family perished, while being treated with pharmaceuticals that only worsen matters doesn’t sit well to me. So I decided to take it upon myself to make a change for the better.
Nothing burns me up worse than a guy who breeds or promote cannabis, while still racking up huge medical expenses. In my opinion, that goes against everything that cannabis stands for. Peace.

Guys are always asking why do I compare dog breeding with cannabis breeding. The short answer is that in some ways they are similar, but in other ways, they are worlds apart. It’s up to you as a breeder of animal or plants to know these difference. I call that experience.
There are so many who thinks just because they breed dogs or cattle or any other animals that they can become a great cannabis breeder over night. If that was the case, great cannabis breeders would be all over the place. And we know that they aren’t.
So when people ask me what is my secret, I tell them that it wouldn’t be a secret if I told them.
I’m my opinion, cannabis is a free expression. As it is, whatever you make of it. Rather it’s Green, purple, gold or blue, rather it’s short, tall or grows fast or slow, it doesn’t matter if you prefer to the taste of peaches, or a deep wooden like smoke. It doesn’t matter if you prefer a bud that tastes you fast and far. Or one that takes you slow and low. That’s because it’s all up to you. Do your thing, and show us what you got.
Don’t let anyone tell you what your cannabis is or what it should be. It all smokes. Light it up and put it in the air.

Magix smoke..
Many people don’t understand when they are working with a dead line of cannabis.
For instance, If plant A is bred to 10 different plants and a 100 seeds taken from each of the 10 crosses. Meaning that 1000 offspring of plant A is grown out,
Of those 1000 offspring produced, not one of them exhibited any increase in performance in relations to the performance of it’s parents.
Meaning that none of the offspring exhibited transgressive segregation, commonly referred to as hybrid vigor.
Neither offspring produces trippy or psychedelic effects such as auditory or visional hallucinations.
Also, neither of the offspring produces any significant increase in potency in relationships to the duration and intensity of the produced effects. They also failed to produce any unique aromas or tastes.
Loss of vigor in this form is commercially referred to as inbreeding depression, as the line fails to produce anything that can be deemed new. This means that the line is dead as it has lost its vigor, which is the complete opposite of transgressive segregation.
Inbreeding depression stagnates a line and causes multiple negative effects within it. The growth rate is slowed indicative of poor root development. Which then reduces the over all size and structure of a plant to a fraction of its original self, as well as making the plant increasingly susceptible to plant related diseases.
Smaller roots = slower growth = sick plants = smaller plants = smaller bud are all symptoms of a line that has lost its vigor.
The lost vigor, most notably dulls the plants terpenes, accounting for the muted taste and aromas that plagues modern cannabis.
The growfathers know the signs all to well because they have seen them many times before.
You may as well move around and search elsewhere if you are a breeder of cannabis, because these vigorless lines are incapable of producing anything new, exciting and definitely not unique.
The path of the growfathers grow dark and dreary as many have now chosen different avenues in search of renewed vigor.
The futile search continues on by those who are unaware. They point to a different sign. 1 of 2 little, 2 late.
Obviously, these words fall on the deaf ears as consumers continue to search seed produces from these lines, hoping to find their holy grail. Failure to do so, reiterates the fact that vigor no longer exists within it.
Drastic times call for drastic measures, as one poly hybrid, after another is created.
Each poly failing as miserable as the one before it to produce something new. Creating the path that still haunts the growfathers of today.
Written in stone, the chosen one, Mona, rekindle the fire, anom, vigor 969.
The one, the only one, the keeper of the flame, follow the path, path, magix awaits everyone who is looking to rekindle the flame of the Magic of the jungle king and the green eyed queen of the night.
All bs aside, it takes more than having access to the best and the rarest of genetics, because even the best of grower, aren’t able to make stagnant genetics smoke any better than their genetics are capable of.
The redundancy of crossing multiple polys continue to prove that “it isn’t working. Deja vu, and that it never has.
Deliverance, as boundaries are broken and new paths emerge. A path possessed with the new and unimaginable, in the reflection of the cannabis of old.
Deliverance mean that renewed effects and tastes are just the beginning as vigor lives once again.
Deliverance,
offspring whose performance and effects surpasses their parent in every way.
Deliverance
A future held for generations to come.
Which is something that the growfathers did know about. Because Once it’s done, it’s done.
Another reason that such an effort was put forth be the first to find it.
For breeding cannabis has nothing to do with hashing 2 genetically dead clones together, just to see what becomes of it.
It’s one thing to ride a horse to death, it’s another thing to continue to beating it after death.
Because it takes than a handful of beans, Jack. You also need the magic touch in order to produce the golden egg.
Keeper of the flame, ruler of the night. On to the, shines heaven’s light.
The darkened heart, Christen by the cold, no longer taunted by the bold. In with the new, out with the old, the chosen one, wings of gold.
NLCX !¡ Genetics come from the Heart

It’s been several years ago, but same thing still goes on today.
I started working on a new job where several coworkers had migrated to after our job had shut down. It just so happens that my old supper was working there. One day he pulls me aside and says, “your not gonna make any money here.” He then explains that the highest paid guy in the department that I was working in only made $11hr. I give him a look. He then says that he has been working there for 2 years and was only making $9hr. Then I give him that ain’t no mofo way look.
Anyway the guy who is operating the most productive machine here there also happens to be my buddy. This is the guy that my ex supervisor was referring to as the highest paid guy out there.
So I ask my buddy was he really work for that and how long had he been on this job. He confirmed what my ex supervisor had told me and said that he had been on the job about 3 years. I’m like, no freaking way.
The supervisor on this job was an arrogant sob. I could tell that he was low class because all he did was walk around and talk about how much money he was making. This fool would show the employees his bonus checks and also show what he did with the money.
Where I come from… let’s just say, we don’t do that where I come from. I had taken just about all I could tolerate from mr my “shit don’t stink”. That how he carries himself. So I walks up to my buddy as tell him, let me show you how to get a raise.
I tell my buddy to call in sick and take the rest of the week off. And when you get back tell that fool that you want a raise. Both of us already knowing that he was going to say no.
I ask my buddy how much vacation time did have. She said about 4 weeks. I said good.
So I tell him as soon as this clown tells you no about the raise, take a week vacation. After that take some time off, tell him you mother is sick, or kid is sick. My friend did just as I suggested. Before he got back from the time off, the supervisor had called him and gave him a nice raise.
I tell my buddy to give him about 30 days and so it all over again. This time tell him that you are going to quit because your family needs more money. I assure you that he got that raise too.
You see, the machine that my buddy operated produce about $1,000,000 worth of product daily. But was only paying my buddy $88 a day. For real. Not only help my buddies get better salaries, we got better pay for the entire plant.
By sticking together and showing them that we weren’t going to work for that. When 80% of your workers walk off the job of a billion dollar company. I guarantee you that someone will come up with a solution to continue having that pay day.
How many of you are working under those same circumstances. Topshelf doesn’t bring what it used to huh. As as product gets cheaper, and operating costs and the price of materials get higher and high, the pockets will get emptier and emptier. This is happening to everyone everywhere.
The American work force, including cannabis producers are being extorted. If the deal was so good, then why are you selling your bud for for less than you deserve.
Who don’t know that Back door profits are 100x that of legal profits. But yet they still choose to hand their hard work over to someone so that they can get rich.
See how long that lasts. Mortgage, kids, car payments are growing, while the check continues to shrink. I’ll say it again, how many of you are working under these circumstances.
Cutthroat mentality, means one thing, that person, or group of people aren’t making any money. You may want to put that joint down and open your eyes wider. Because you don’t see the people that you are being your product to arguing and carrying on with cutthroat type behavior. The obvious reason is because they are making plenty of money.
You have to understand that is these people could grow cannabis, they wouldn’t pay you at all. Which makes it obvious that they need you.
However they still chose to exploit you by not giving the worker, you tending to you garden, what you and your product is worth.
You do this to yourself by constantly settling. $8 1/8 = $64 zips. You can get double that out the back door and quadruple that by bleeding the block.
That is, if you weren’t all growing the same quality and type of bud. Then it becomes a battle of who is seeking for the cheapest price.
The Uber grower has gotten himself into an elaborate pyramid scheme as he falls victim to trickle down economics.
I don’t get it because most of you guys have been selling bud all your life. However now you need licenses that come with a plant count to do so. Always the same bs. Grow more pay more. Higher thc, pay more. Because paying is what it’s all about. I thought people grew bud to make money. Not to give all their hard work and earnings away.
You complain about people on welfare, but you say nothing about all the money making schemes that are being placed upon you.
What’s the difference? They are sitting around getting money, why you do the work. That’s welfare no matter how you look at it. On the opposite end of the spectrum, you also know what working for little or no pay is. I don’t have to say it.
I don’t know what you guys are looking at, but I see guys being placed in these exploited situations and they are not even saying a word. You say you are making money, but what you are really making is pennies compared to all the hard work that you do.
You want a pay increase? Do the same thing that the industries do, which is cut of the supply. By doing so, the demand will increase, and so will the prices as product become harder to find.
Brothers, they are already figuring out ways not to need the growers anymore. So it’s just a matter of time. When they do, you everybody is going to get the ax. When, and only when the competition no longer exists is when true legalization will occur. When they have milked the industry for all that it is worth. You are witnessing it right now as states are being bleed dry, and then the move to the next one.
And you are the ones paying for this, by supporting this. In other words, digging your own grave.
These people aren’t hard to spot, because they are the ones who keep pushing the issues as they do not want to see a change.
You don’t need magic or a crystal ball to see this. Because it is happening right in front of each and everyone of our eyes. Keep acting like you don’t see it. Don’t say that I didn’t tell you.