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Blutri

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Woke up feeling selfish this morning, so I jumped in the time machine, because that what the selfish do.
Going through some thangs with boosie boo. I be smoking on some purple too. This shit got me acting like you know who.
Heir to the throne, new power, x generation.
Shoes of cloud, pulse of rain.
Eyes of fire, my normal,
every day I’m different,
every day I’m the same.
As an artist, I learned to leave some things to the imagination, better known as, Interpretations derived from different perspectives. That’s life.
The unforeseen future, “the darken heart.
t’s a cold world out there, “christened by the cold.
Taunted by the bold, “those who want to remain in control”
Communication. Jargon which is a breakdown in communication, because it only meant to be understood by those in the know. Just as our laws that are written in the language of courts. Which is jargon that’s meant to confuse and take those who unable to interpret its true meaning.
The question then becomes, why are they still using this confusing form of communication in every form of government.
I said selfish because Time travel effects everyone, everywhere.
Speaking with the dead,
The most beautiful day.
The shadow calls,
It’s good, by the way.
Dark and tall.
Remember the day
Let’s see what
Tomorrow has to say.
Stumble and fray.
just another day.
What you say.
Fathers’s. Eyes
No how,
no way.
Enough of that,
Plain English. just my way of saying, build it and they will come.
There are a lot of paths on the trail and they don’t all lead to the same place. Anyway I consider it an honor.
I been haunting for along time. Call of the wild. Brothers be wanting answer or wanting to know industry changing secrets.
Lab not working? I asked, already knowing that science doesn’t always have all the answers.
Living in the future or living in the past. Nowadays it’s getting harder to tell. Timestamp says one thing, good senses, say something else.
For real I don’t get. But that doesn’t mean that I don’t have a clue since just because I do things differently.
Time to mow the lawn.
Once trailblazers are now following. What’s up with that.
Rks, Honor the dead. Respect is what I’m about. That stinky skunky funk is all good, unfortunately it tastes like it smells.
To those who created rks, cool I’m with it. I mean, thanks for the blessing.
Those chasing the past when I’m looking at the future. Bros, we are going in opposite directions.
None the less, certain phenos pop up all the time. Maybe I can be persuaded to pull Mrs congeniality to the side if she shows up again. It is what it is.
No time for all the misinterpreted subliminal messages. Working together.
 

Blutri

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Cruising topics as usual. Here there everywhere, I can across an argument about outdoor plants terpenes profiles being better than the monsters being created by indoor breeders. My first thought was what dah…. Explicative.
When I see comments like that coming from guys who claim to have the experience, it makes me wonder.
So First I’m going to be silly. We all know the story of Frankenstein, however let’s remove the metaphors and look at it from of different perspective.
Imagine what it looked like to a group of narive people, when a man that was badly injured, was bandage and stitched up, and in a sense brought back to life. Hell yeah it looked just as the stories of dr Frankenstein describe.
Or the first time a group of people saw a man on horseback. Trojan horse? Centaur
How do you think it looked to indigenous people, the first time that they saw cows herded through there land. Come on now, it’s not hard to apply common sense to the many ancient texts about mythical creatures and beasts. Most of these stories are centered around human animal hybrid, as new settlers and their families across land already inhabited by native people. Of course the new settlers brought with them, their main protein source as they trekked these unfamiliar lands. Most of which was already settled by natives who chose to remain unseen.
In most of the cases, only the torso of the men could be seen as the women and kids rose in carriages.
What about the legend of the unicorn, which could be explained as when natives first witnessed jousting. Armor glistening in the sun looked like the glowing rainbows that always appeared in the clouds. Due to the fast movement and unique colors, the only thing that made sense to the natives that had never seen such an act, is that the strange animals was flying within the clouds. Carrying the lance, mad it look as if the flying animals also had wings.
The vampire, a white man who’s blood could be seen flowing through his skin. Don’t forget the fact that this man pale skin white man also dranked blood. Which is what red wine looks like to someone who had never seen it before. Drinking wine is part of the holy communion ceremony that is still practice in Christian religion. From this perspective, who do the vampire stories remind us of.
Stories of native people, first encounters with dominant civilizations, plague human history. Not only did these people not know what they were witnessing, they also didn’t have the words to describe it.
As you see, It’s all about perspective as the same things can be said about genetically different cannabis that has never been seen before. Which I view as a bland attitude towards cannabis present and past cannabis.
Speaking of cannabis, looked up the word transgressive segregation. Yeah I googled it in orders to find it definitive meaning. Transgressive - involving a violation of moral or social boundaries.
Segregation- the action or state of setting someone or something apart from others.
Of course there are other definitions of the words, however I prefer these. Feel free to look them up for yourself.
When the words transgressive segregation are used together, the meaning sound more like the definition of the word abomination- a thing that causes disgust or hatred. A monster? Maybe to those who fear the unknown.
However, due to my darkened nature, I prefer to use the word abomination when describing my cannabis creations.
Transgressive segregation isn’t unheard of territory, therefore not a monster by any means. It has been used for some time to describe vegetables of this nature.
With science, there is also the need for practicality. Which is why doctors practice medicines. Growing cannabis and everything else, involves practice. Which has been done by so many a grower. Never before has there been an argument that indoor growing that indoor growing is the cause of Frankenstein type terpene development.
Because It were true, there would be many more plants displaying freakish terpene profiles.
Failure to understand the true nature of transgressive segregation means that you lack the experience associated with the phenomenon.
DJ short was the first to describe the transgressive segregation phenomenon in a non commercial setting. Unfortunately due to the nature of the internet, the topic is now filled with unsubstantiated evidence of the improperly experienced, who are always following someone else’s trail.
The more you grow, the more you that know.
 

Blutri

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One of the biggest job that a father has, is the role of referee.
Which is why I tend to spend most of my time outside of the bubble.
As I cruise aboard the mothership Eternity, darkness my copilot, I’m repeatedly reminded that light is a luxury afforded to those who are willing to endure¡
I miss home even though I spend as much time as I can in the dark. My father’s eyes, guide this heart. Metallica, the home of the blackened heart. Key to the past carved upon this stone.
Whereva, twisting turn through the, my father’s eyes, I follow. Forever.
Taxing are the Times spent outside the bubble.
Therefore by the Time I circle back, only to make a post or 2, I'm all referee-ed out.
I make a lot time references because that what it takes to reach any destiny. Experience is gathered along the journey as the beauty of life unfold.
Surreal the scene, as the sandaled feet creep. Strange place for a meet and greet.
The trumpets blew, their sound cleared the air. as if they knew he would be there.
Suddenly surrounded by black sheep.
Another journey. Lured by the meek.
Welcome, plenty to eat and drink.
A beautiful day, As if I was meant to be there.
With my own eyes, I chose to see.
The Darkened Queen whose voice quenched the air. Janet nor Gladys, my ears didn’t care.
Neither did anyone else, who was there.
Robert and Jimmy, settled me in.
That’s when I met him, my green eyed.
The stares of the Carpenter keep, reminding me that his father, now sleeps.
Somehow I already knew, constantly he reminding me that his grandfather was there too.
Also a stoner, and a black sheep, who love all music, just like me.
However, still, I did not see.
Something about his eyes, and the way stare at me.
Even more Confused when he showed me his shoulder length hair.
Ask? I would not dare. I offered a treat, letting him know that I care. He then asked, did I want something to drink.
What happened next, one of my old tricks. My copilot said, did you see that. I know I’m not crazy, Where did he go? Where did he get that. .
The same meal that had already eaten. Must be a magic hat.
We laughed, we joked, we also talked about the dogs. Some small, others quite large.
Something out of place, always on the case, I re-examined the space.
The green eyes of the Carpenter, ask I did not dare. More than I could see, how did I get there.
Cookie kid? do you partake? Words crystal clear. he could not relate.
My grandfather I see, neither here nor there.
Do you see the woman stand there.
On the stone, the woman, do you see. The woman, do you see?
Her reflection, younger days, just as he. Blinding stare, as he, so does she.
What strains do you know, does your grandfather grow? Do you play? An instrument do you rock, to the beat of the drums? He said he does not.
Just as I, he dare say, the guitar is what I like to play.
Still unsure, but some how I already knew. Even though I act as if I had no clue.
Coincidence? Some kind of mistake. The angles stare, one by one, they came to greet.
His grandfather, the black sheep. Do you have any questions for me. Beep, beep, beep, almost time. Good to meet. Son of my sons.
Give or take, this path I make.
One mistake, why I partake.
Alluding is another tool, used by the artist. Used to give reference. Unlike the metaphor, alluding is always based on a given. Not necessarily true, but accepted, which is the opposite of the abomination.
How can Cannabis created art be accepted, if no one relates. Which is the biggest criticism of some of my favorite musical artists. Such as Robert Plant, Prince, Bizzy, Billy Squire and of course Metallica. Many of the artists of science, that I relate to, where also criticized and as they were often called fake, for some of the things that they knew. Often it was years later, before sole understood their art. In some way, it touched their heart.
Ahead of their times, Newton, Freud, Eisenstein, just to name a few. Even dr. Frankenstein, and his monster too.
All saying to themselves, “if they only knew.”
Anyway, anyhow, anywho, my way, my heart, my art. No word can explain to someone who never knew. Cave wall hide the pics the first artist drew. Of course, they had critics too.
 

Blutri

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The stress involved when tragedy strikes, has a tendency to change a person in more ways than one. You never know the outcome when dealing with life changing events. Hopefully you have lots of family around, and or a strong shoulder to lean on. Not to burden anyone, because we all have our own problems. Just know there isn’t much that makes me not want to talk about plants.
 

Blutri

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Topics about Plant breeding and rks are my favorites. Lately the buzz surrounding rks has gotten ridiculous in some places.
Locally, I’m surrounded by grey bearded men, and little old women that have spent a lifetime living off the land. Is a way of life here.
They have raised every animal, grew ever plant, know every secret formula that you can imagine.
Very little come out of a box. And if it is in a can, I bet it’s see through and breakable. And has mason on its side.
Anywho, these old men and little old ladies have been growing cannabis all their lives and they know a lot about it. But for some reason, when I ask them about roadkill skunk, they look at me with a black stare and say “what’s that?”
Texas, Louisiana, Arkansas, Mississippi, Oklahoma, I did say for miles, in all of these places, no one seem to have a clue about what roadkill skunk is. Which is something that I find very strange.
Often when enjoying a joint or 2, one of them will say, this reminds me of the bud I used to get back in the day. Sometimes they will mention a specific strain, which are usually the ones that have lived out of state. Meaning not from the areas that I mention above. However most of the time they just say it reminds me of the good old skunk weed, or the sess we grew back in the day.
I’m beginning to think that the name roadkill skunk is just something coined by the internet, since none of the old timers seem to know what it is.
I’m not saying that there aren’t expressions (phenos) of plants that are extremely loud smelling and reek of skunk. Of course there is, because skunk is what American weed is.
When admiring plant genealogies, I see Columbian, Thai, Mexican, Afghanistan, are the main version listed. Then I’ll see the plants that say skunk, which usually made by those listed above. However I never see a plant listed as American.
I’m figuring that cannabis prohibition has a lot to do with that. But anyhow, I’m talking about the “roadkill skunk” today. Which is the extreme smelling variant of the original American skunk weed.
Rks, some have seen it, some haven’t, however very few haven’t tasted the more common versions of skunk. Which makes for quite the argument in the modern scheme of things.
Some argue that it doesn’t have any type of fruit taste or smell.
Most will say that it tastes more like Afghan and dirt, with a powerful sedative high.
But for some reason, you you don’t hear much talk about the slightly sweet tasting, pine smelling bud anymore. On a few occasions, I have read where someone said that they were sick of pine smelling bud and that they don’t want it any longer. Maybe because it all that they had and they became burned out on it. Me interjecting because like most of the ones that are here arguing, I wasn’t there. And any experience that I did have near those times, I was too young to know what was really going on. Therefore the only reference that I have to go by, is the description from others, most of whom were also not there.
The internet is a marvelous place. Often filled with fantasies, where anyone can be anything that they wish. Therefore who can argue about another’s growers/breeders story, when they wasn’t actually there to witness the event unfold. Especially if cases similar to rks, where most of the ones who are arguing, have never smoked it as presented by the original producer.
Therefore, I don’t put much stock on anything that I see, hear, or read on the internet.
I’m not saying that someone’s reality isn’t true. However I will say, that I haven’t had that experience yet.
What I have experienced… commercialism
And a multitude of strains, who greatest feature is the stress that they cause on the smokers.
By stress, I mean adverse effects. Clear communication is the best avenue. That way no one goes wandering down some long lost trail.
Here are some of the stress effects that I most l come across.
Chest pookies, what I call pin pricks that are felt in the chests area, and the arteries leading from the heart. Usually accompanied by a pulsating headache that radiates from the temple to the brain stem area. There is only one other bud that I rank equally offensive.
I call it The headache bud. Usually tasting like chemicals and wet paint, smells and taste the same too. This bud main feature is what I call the “headache from hell”, because it produces migraine like effects that are so stressful, that it blurs vision, as the bud pounds the head for hours.
another highly stressful bud Is what I call “Ragweed bud” because of its hay fever like effects. Immediately after inhaling, the throat starts to burns and the sinuses start to clog. The eyes it, the nose runs. It even causes the skin to itch all over the body. Usually starting at the top of the head, then working it’s way down until the entire body begins itching. Including the eyes. The worst of these buds will cause the nose to also run. I usually associate this bud to the plant that taste like wood, or cigarettes, or some combination there of.
Next worst stressors is the coughing bud, that most users love so much. Usually tasting like dirt and smells like nothing. When I’m saying wtf is this, others will be talking about how great the taste is. I frown when someone tells me how they miss this type of bud. I’m like through that mess in the garage. Which is what I say about any highly stressful bud.
For real, put that trash where it belongs. For the life in me, I cannot understand why someone would breed, grow, and smoke such a product. If I didn’t know any better, I would think that this bud was meant to kill me. For the most part, it only makes me wish I was dead after smoking some so horrible.
I don’t have to call the names of these strains or tell who they come from, because, just like me, you already know.
I’m going to switch gears right here for a paragraph or two. Commercial guys are alway trying to reverse someone else’s plant. That reverse engineered plant might look like similar and smells “similarly” to the original, however there is 1 for certain, it will never produce the same effects and taste of the original plant.
Making it very easy to distinguish the real, from the fake.
The only ones that would be fooled by a knockoff, are the ones that have never had the original.
And because of the drama that follow great plants, only a select few actually get to enjoy the smoke in its original form. Meaning those elaborate stories that surround some strains, are usually being told by someone who was “fifth wheeling” and don’t have a clue as to what they are talking about.
Now back to the business.
Giving the hard work that it takes to produce a great strain, it seems pointless to produce one with multiple stress related effects. It reminds me of something that DJ short said about guys claiming to have made blueberry better, “I don’t see it”. And neither do most of the people who are spending their hard earned on blueberry knockoffs. I’m just saying.
Therefore I may not know what the original rks is, however I do know what good bud is. And for sure what it isn’t.
The rks is the ultimate expression of skunk bud. Meaning that my version will be loud as f
It should also taste and smoke as good as it smell. Meaning of he smoke will be stress free, and as far as the taste, it will be delivered in a manner never seen before in cannabis.
Because there is no need to continue producing “new reggie”.
The artistry of my creation means that it will not be easily duplicated. My advocacy of hard work, ensures it.
The only real question is when will I put it on the market. I say market, how much, how many, and how soon. Which are all things that I have thought long and hard about. And I’m still not sure which path to follow. Recreational, home growers, commercial, medical?
Due to my multifaceted nature, it will likely be. combination of them all,
Tiredness, stress, plus the dire need for a break, means that I’m not in any hurry.
Ahem, Motivation. Peace out. Just a glance into the future as eye see it.
 

Blutri

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I haven’t came across many relatable topics lately, therefore i will speak on terpenes profiles instead of my usually mumbo jumbo.
So I mentioned onion terps to a guy and as usual, opinions and assumptions start to roll in.
As if. But anyway. The monotonous. Let’s break down that word. Mono-tonous.. mono, meaning one, and tone as in perspective or in this case, it means side. Therefore when I say monotonous, I mean those with a single sided perspective, and which likely stems from single sided experience. Just my opinion.
By being vague about certain topics of taking advantage of the single sided disposition portrayed by some. To those of that nature onion means just that and is associated with the plants known to produce such terps.
Since I already knowing this. I’ll simply the terpenes into something that most can relate to. Much like Bonnie Raitt, I give them something to talk about. This is an old coons way of keeping the dogs of his trail and from barking up the wrong tree.
Anyway, when it comes to me, things are never that simple. It’s part of my OCD, as well as my way of teaching one to think outside the box.
Therefore when I mention onion terps, I’m referring to smoking something similar to taking a bite off off of a Whataburger Sweet and Spicy sandwich. Minus the mustard of course. I highly recommend them, if you haven’t tried one yet.
That way you will have a better understanding of what I mean when I say onion terps. I will not describe the sandwich, as those interested can try one for themselves.
Many think I only grow autos, which is another case of me being as vague as possible.
Do I like auto? I prefer them. Why? For one, I could have grown 3 rounds of autos, seed to finish, before finishing single round of a photo plant started from seed.
Indoors? Why not. Especially when i have seen a single auto produce over a pound, in 63 days, without any type of training. That’s in a 5 gallon pot. It’s nothing to debate because many others have see it too. As well as they have seen as the process repeated multiple times.
Remember, it’s not science if the process cannot be repeated. Speaking of process, I, tell those who inquire, that I use a natural process. Which is another way of me being vague. Remember every day I’m different, but every day I’m the same. Constantly coming up with ideas if intriguing ideas is how it is when suffering from OCD.
To me growing naturally, doesn’t mean filling a bucket up with manure and tossing outside in the blazing sun for the bugs to feast on it. That’s the prevailing monotonous thought process that prevents thinking outside the box. And there is nothing wrong with that.
Peaches, how about peach sorbet, mixed with rich homemade vanilla ice cream, while sitting atop a piece of blackberry cobbler. While feeling like Annie when she was singing “it’s a hard knock life”. Halfway through the song, Mini Me appears as the duet turns into a scene out of Nanny McPhee.
Cannabis such as this may be too much for some, however i find it necessary when dealing with life within the bubble. A life that monotones will say doesn’t exist. That’s because I’m their world, it doesn’t. However in mine, it’s the norrm, as it is a part of my hedonistic approach to cannabis.
Does this make my bud better? To me it is, however i do respect the fact that not knowing where the bud is going to take you, can be quite intimidating to the inexperienced.
However that’s not a reason to rule out its existence. You have to understand, there was a time when I thought all bud produced these type of effects. Imagine how shocked I was when I found out they didn’t.
Or how I felt when I found out that not all bud tasted like this, nor produces similar effects. I was just as surprised as most of you guys are by some of the thing that I say.
 

Blutri

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Humbling oneself is of the hardest things that a narcissist has to deal with. That’s because humbling is the complete opposite of narcissistic behavior of putting self first. Which is something most people, including myself, do.
As difficult as behavioral modification is, I find gratification in my challenge to humble myself and remain in an humbled state of mind.
With that said, I know people who prefer to take the route to accomplish goals. However I’m quite the opposite, as I prefer complex challenges because of the the self gratification that I receive once the challenge is completed.
Often, I never let other know of my success, as it adds to my wish to be humbled. Which is another feeling that can be just as satisfying as using harmful substances and or devices.
The behaviors of a hedonist are very complex, as sufferer are always looking for new ways to stimulate themselves, Rather it’s mentally, physically, or spiritually, the art of touch can take many form. As the hedonist’s goal is aways to find something new by trying to evoke as many feeling as possible, in every situation possible. By this definition hedonistic behavior can also a form of OCD. And vise versa.
Therefore who are you, if you do not know yourself. Finding oneself can be very difficult as many never do. Therefore I alway recommend to them, to look into a mirror. That’s because within the mirror is where self lies. However, there are those who think that the mirror is a great place to hide.
That is until the day comes when you finally see yourself. However that’s usually when the mirror is broken because many do not like what they see, after they have found themselves.
There are many who know the feeling of not liking what they see in the mirror. Which I’m it’s, can be very humbling.
A little nudge in the right direction.
Several times I referred to myself as a “multifaceted diamond in the rough”. A lump of coal is about as rough as a diamond gets. Multifaceted means there are many sides to me as the reference suggests.
My reference to the Diamond, is also very complex. Unfortunately, all that most can see is the clear rock that has represented money, greed, and superiority since the early days of man.
However the Diamond is as complex of a symbol as I am. That’s because it also the symbol of Eternity, love, as well as the hardships that must be endured in order to become such a creation. There is nothing easy on the route to becoming a Diamond.
The Diamonds of cannabis are the 30% strains that are constantly being talked about.
So I’ll start there by first saying what is a 30% strain? If you don’t know what it is, then may I suggest one of googles remedial courses. Also there are many here who always willing to help out.
For me, 30%’er is face numbing, leg buckling, long lasting blast into Eternity. As well as a few more goodies that I’ll be vague about. On the other hand, my buddy’s lab tested 30% cross, barely got either of us buzzed for an negligible length of time.
My buddy looked at me crazily, I told him, to show me a machine that can smoke bud. We left it at that.
Now let’s get hypothetical for a few. Supposedly i produce a mind numbing 30% cross that doesn’t have any fruit type terps and nor a sweet taste. The epitome of old fashioned cannabis goodness. Therefore making it the perfect beginning in the creation of an old school type skunk.
Yeah, yeah I see all the head scratching as well as the impossibilities. Making the very thought of such a creation as unbelievable as a face numbing, knee buckling, mind bender
What I’m saying is that there can easily be a of 30% mind bending version of skunk on the horizon. It would only take few generations after the initial parental crosses are created.
Giving the combination of genetics in such a cross, both new, and old school version of skunk could easily be had, as well as a rks versions of those genetics were to be found.
I’m just thinking hypothetically. Although I do consider such a task to be a good challenge.
Especially for those with the genetics to do so.
Let’s get real for a second. Regardless of how anyone feels about cookies, it is the top money making brand of cannabis. Which also means that cookies genetics are in almost everything and it’s everywhere. I didn’t write the rules, because it’s just how it is,
Many times has the cookies genetics proven to be more challenging than most breeders are willing to endure.
As I said above, somewhere, most breeders who choose to work with cookies platform, find them to be more work than they are willing to endure. Most will end up in a far worser place than where they were when they originally began working with the platform.
Therefore Cookies is a prime example of how cannabis genetics do in fact, speak for themselves. Many, are the talks of failure, from those who admit defeat by cookies hand. As there are very few breeders of cookies who admits to taking cookies to an entirely new level.
You may not take what I say seriously, however the industry is, as powers to be preemptively prepares for the occasion.
Such as the newly proposed revisions to the hemp bill, which suggests that someone is taking something, very seriously.
In any case, I thinks that it’s a bad idea to tear down everything that the industry has builded. For one, industries are running out of easy money making options as people are now opening their eyes and realizing how society as a whole is being taking advantage of by the corporations.
As sales are faulted, profits decrease. Then come the raise in the price of consumer goods on every level. We all, already witnessing such happenings as they are occurring in every industry.
Just as we know it, so does big business. Therefore be mindful of the next industry generated money making schemes that will being imposed on the people.
Peace to you guys.
 
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Blutri

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Ah, the hypothetical automatics cannabis variety. Jewel to some, dud to others. Why such a huge disparity among the many cannabis users.
One of the reasons for such performance variation in autos, as well as photo dependent cannabis, is that it is extremely hard to obtain exceptional cannabis varieties in today’s crumbling market
Everyone knows that any product is only as good as the ingredients that you put into it. As I’m of my instructors would would put it when giving performance evaluations, “garbage in, garbage out.”
From an automatic cannabis perspective, the inclusion of an substandard photo period genetics will lead to the creation of substandard automatic cannabis variant will also be plagued the same inferiorities that inflicted the photo periods that they were crossed with.
However I cant understand is why some of the photo breeders, continue to cross those same auto creations that they complain about.

There is something about the increases effects, heavier yields, and shorter flowering times that are brought on by crossing to automatics that makes photo breeders come running. Often forgetting that such genetics were derived from the same autos that were made with substandard photos to begin with.
The circle then goes round and round as new breeders don’t know where to turn.
Bad photos x auto = bad auto… bad auto x bad photo = bad photo. Yikes
Yikes for real, because who wants to keep doing that dance. 10% of 0, nothing is always nothing, 0 regardless of who’s math that you used, and there is no getting around it.
Which also makes it hard to understand what some breeders are looking for.
I wonder I f it is Hybrid vigor, or if it is transgressive segregation that they seek. Or perhaps maybe they are breeding, just to be breeding because surely that would give them, something to gripe about.
However still, something just doesn’t sit right when a guy says that what he has been growing and smoking over the last few years, has not up to his expectations. I have to ask why is he still growing it, if it isn’t working.
We have all been there at one time or another. And we all know that there is no easy way to breed oneself out of such a predicament.
Which reiterate following the same route as the breeder before, to no avail, may not be the best path to follow.
Meaning the 10% theory is being blown out the window daily. Making it apparently obvious that it isn’t as easy as previously thought, to just follow the next guy to the top. Plus we all hear about those one hit wonders that are supposed to change the cannabis game forever.
You would think that all the hype that surrounds such strains, that they would make a larger dent in the future of cannabis, instead of just barely scratching the surface of tomorrow’s cannabis tolerances.
Real thing, successful marketing, or just more of the same thing that put aspiring breeders in the proverbial circle I’m the first place
Outside the circle, outside the box, outside the bubble. You mean it’s out there. It must be since there are some who are insisting that it be released to the public. As if they aren’t the same guys in a rush tone the first to hand it over whichever cooperation that they work for.
Man the cannabis game is so crazy right now. The fact that corporations are making the rules that govern cannabis, means that federal legalization, and rescheduling will never occur unless they it benefits them.
Instead of the corporations showing advancements, they are admitting defeat by imitating the tearing down, scorched earth protocols that most businesses use when the proverbial end is near.
Which also means that a lot of people are about to loose a lot of money which is another trend of cannabis that we have already been seeing. Couple that with the new laws that tighten restrictions on seeds and on the type of plants that the seed can come from.
I see this as a step in the opposite direction for any booming business.
In other words, business isn’t as booming as investors are led to believe.
However it’s all good as long as the public keeps purchasing their seeds and plants and flowers. Sounds familiar right.
Right under your eyes is more like it. Also while the cannabis community cries for a better product. The corporations failure to deliver such a product, all while employing last ditch efforts, and scorched earth protocols, suggest that they cannabis corporations don’t plan to continue the present path because they are no longer the ones that will reap the most benefits of doing so.
 

Blutri

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I don’t know what this world is coming to. We have guys who smoke a few autos and think that they “automatically” know what every one of them taste like.
In my opinion, autos must taste like the char of burning wood since that is what 90% of the photo strains taste like.
Or maybe not, for those who conquered the 1,000 plant pheno hunts. But who has the space, time, and resources to do such a large grow. Tent pics mean just that.
As for as the many who fail to find a unicorn, they will forever roam the land of the char-broiled. Where not only do autos exist, but also their photos photo counterparts from all over the globe. Be it the landraces, or the heirlooms, or some highly claimed commercial exotics, most suffer from what I like to call the “char experience.” meaning that they taste like burnt wood.
So where are all the beautiful, Afghans, or Thais, or skunks or Durbans that some go on about. Where are those cup winners. The fact is, every year it is getting increasingly harder to find crosses that wow as the charbroiled strains have now become the mainstream of cannabis.
To make matters worse, instead of breeders blaming themselves for poor selection, they choose to blame things such as the autos, or cookies or whatnot . Hell I even remember when they used to blame the purples, and the Dutch for for the muddling and other cannabis atrocities. Some still do. With all the talk about how bad autos are, I would think that more “wow” strains would exist. However most of us know that this is far from the truth.
As the title of my posts suggests, I’m a thinking man. Therefore I think that the number of “char-type strains far out weigh the number of cup winner types.
You have to understand that since very few have actually smoked a cup winner, they must rely on the accounts of those who have. To further complicated matters, everyone’s one’s perception is different. So are their likes, tastes as well as their dislikes. When someone says that a bud is good, what are they talking about. Taste, smell, or buzz, or some other single aspect that causes the bud to fail to become great.
Then the question then becomes, how would someone know if they are in fact smoking a cup winner. The short answer is, if the bud that you are smoking, tastes as if it had been charbroiled over a open fire, then you are not smoking a cup winner. That’s regardless of how nice the bud smells. That’s because taste that separate the cup winners from the increasing number of the charbroiled type crosses
That may have sounded shocking to you, but ask yourself, why are so many breeders still searching through thousands of seeds if their bud didn’t taste muddied or like toasted dirt.
Anyway I don’t mess around with that type of smoke unless I’m doing breed work with it. Even then, most of it will get tossed because of commonality.
What makes my bud so different, I don’t know you tell me. Because when I wasn’t getting high, I created a cross that did get me high. When I didn’t like the flavor, I manipulated the flavor into something that worked for me. When the high wasn’t long enough, or wasn’t trippy enough, or didn’t make me feel exactly how I wanted to, I bred my plants to move myself out of such unfulfilling situation. Which is very unlike those who breed just because someone dropped a name.
The many times that I have been ask how did I do it, the short answer is alway experience, as well ass planning for the future. That’s it.
A resent post asked if person could tell there home grown bud form dispensary bud. My answer is, “probably not if they are growing the same char type plants as dispensary bud.
However I can tell the difference in my bud versus dispensary bud as soon as the container is opened. That’s because most of dispensary bud will lack smell. Even when being smoked, dispensary bud will lack any weed type smell while burning. And let’s not forget the 15 minute of fame , or the head banging high that most produce.
Therefore I don’t quite understand the Auto bashers. I see them as no more than attention seekers who are trying to hide the fact that they smoke charbroiled bud. Some call it phishing or trolling, however it doesn’t solve any problem, because it’s only plausible use is to gain negative momentum. In this case, agains the autos.
The fact is, I know some autos that will turn the cannabis world upside down. Their tastes, the effects of their high, as well as their potency is unsurpassed by anything that I have seen on the current or past cannabis market.
Their smoke is reminiscent of the bud of old, meaning the tastes are more discernible. They also taste just like they smell, rather it’s pine, diesels, chem, or lemons, or what have you.
Not only does the smell and taste match, but so does the effects of the bud. If it smells like chem, it also tastes like chem, as well as get you high like chem. The ones that reek of pine, also tastes like pine has the matching pine related buzz. This is also true of the others such as lemon or diesel, because everything about them also matches including the smooth delivery of the high that makes the day as if you didn’t have a care in the world. A few grams works better than your favorite vacation spot. It’s for those times, when you don’t have time.
But what about those that are looking for the wildest ride imaginable. Or those who prefer muse for their creations. The aspiring artist type. The emo goth type. Or how about those who prefer life less grounded as they surround themselves with audible and visual augmentations. But why sell yourself short when because what’s the point of a vacation, without lasting memories.
Memories that you can see, feels smell, hear, you can also taste it. Total fulfillment what I call hallucinating. Which makes for some of the most compelling experiences or any cannabis.
Describing these effects seem almost pointless because where would I find someone who can relate to bud smoke that makes you feel like a rockstar such as Robert Plant, or Jimi Hendrix, or Prince or Billy Squire.
Too much for ya, then how about bud that feels more like Andy Griffith, or Buddy Ebson.
Better than that, how about a bud that make you feel more like yourself. Because of the low physical or mental aspect to the high, I found this to be the craziest plant that I ever smoked. Physically it produced slightly tight eyes, mentally it produced a calming state that very similar to euphoria because of the way that it made me feel good. Not only did I feel good everything around me also felt good. I especially enjoyed the anxiety free social interaction. It cause the mind to think in the manner that I’d did before it was engulfed in all of life’s problems.
I have never smoked anything like it before, because most of the bud that I smoke, makes me fell some type of way because of the many different emotions that they put me through. That’s where this one was different, because it made me feel like myself, as I remember me. I consider it to be true masterpiece of the cannabis art. One that the ole schoolers will truly enjoy. Peace.
 

Blutri

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Who would have thought an op would have quit smoking. I support him. I just hope it not because of health or that he needs a tolerance break. Snoop is like the poster child for smoking bud, so I can’t imagine him without a blunt in his mouth. Anyway my best wishes go out to him. Peace Snoop.
 

Tolerance Break

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Who would have thought an op would have quit smoking. I support him. I just hope it not because of health or that he needs a tolerance break. Snoop is like the poster child for smoking bud, so I can’t imagine him without a blunt in his mouth. Anyway my best wishes go out to him. Peace Snoop.
I'm guessing he is moving to vaping.

Willie smoked until his late 70s.

I'm guessing the blunt wraps did a number on his lungs, and he's thinking about longevity.
 

Blutri

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@Tolerance Break yeah I feel that. But who do you know smokes 80 times a day.
Do the math. By his numbers, snoop would have to be smoking around the clock and lighting up every 18 minutes. If we took 6 hours of sleep out the equation, the frequencies of his smoke breaks become every 13.5 minutes.
Sound more like he is chain smoking cigarettes than weed. It just doesn’t make any sense.
Help me understand that beyond the negative medical effects.
 

Budzbuddha

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Who would have thought an op would have quit smoking. I support him. I just hope it not because of health or that he needs a tolerance break. Snoop is like the poster child for smoking bud, so I can’t imagine him without a blunt in his mouth. Anyway my best wishes go out to him. Peace Snoop.
It was marketing for a product …. He’s hawking a smokeless firepit.
He will never quit smoking pot.
 

Blutri

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It was marketing for a product …. He’s hawking a smokeless firepit.
He will never quit smoking pot.
You know I know.
Besides, Once a bud smoker always a bud smoker. The way that boy smokes l, I bet his farts smell like bud.
Hell I even got a cross named after him that I call snoop poop. It leaves the room smelling like shit and taste like baby poop smells. I ain’t shitting you.
 

Blutri

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Autos and rks are the 2 things that bring about the most online arguments. As much as I like to talk about the 2, I find it very hard to do so because of the unnecessary drama that will soon follow. By drama, I mean that someone wants to correlate their bad experiences with another breeder’s work, with mine.
You see, that’s just it, I’m not growing another breeder’s work because I prefer growing varieties that I have worked up to my own expectations.
That’s on you if you are still buying seeds packs and is getting upset because they didn’t live up to your expectations. I have one word for your those type of guys… why.
I’m going to speculate here, and I’m sure someone will trow a tantrum about what I say next. Either that person is too lazy to do their own work, or they don’t have the skillset. Those are the only reasons that I can come up with as to why guy is whining like a little girl when his purchase didn’t prove out.
I consider buying seeds as the equivalent to digging through another man’s trash, because that’s exactly what you are doing. Those words are coming from a man who hopes to sell seeds some day in the near future.
Anyway, the autos that I grow have been worked to my expectations of what an auto should be and in no way reflect what another breeders has going on. As I am not the carbon copy type and firmly believe that anything that you can do, I can do better.
Those who know me, know about my competitive nature and how I hate to loose. That doesn’t mean that I’m a sore loser, however it does mean that you will probably never beat me again. That’s because I learn from my mistakes. And believe me when he I say that I have made plenty of them. Which is one of the reasons that I know so much. And I’m always willing to learn more.
Onwards. Guys are always ragging on autos and for the most part I can’t see why when there are just as many photos that share the same grievances as the autos that they are complaining about. Such as poor terpenes, or that they are low yielding and and have low potency. All of which are the same major complaints that the most popular photo strains possess. And it no wonder that autos share those traits because were made using the same photos that everyone is complaining about.
And everyone knows it. So what is there to complain about. Instead of ragging war against autos, I suggest taking it up with the breeder that you got the seeds from. You see there is another big problem. Most of the complaining is coming from guys who are too cheap to buy seed packs, who often source their genetics from where they can either get them for free, or very cheaply. Acting as if they have never heard the adage that says, “you get what you pay for”.
When you didn’t pay anything for that cross or pack that you grew, why did you expect so much from it. Which seems oxymoronic in my opinion. It also seems that the guys who complain the most are growing knock offs, or white label packs where someone has hacked the original breeders work. Once again, take your grievances up, with the guy from whom you sourced you genetics. Which is the only thing that makes sense in an adult world.
With that said, many have said that an auto gave them the best high that they have ever experienced. I also stand with that statement. As I have yet to run across a photo seed pack, that I would purchase a 2nd time. And that’s not because I made seeds of them, which is something that I never do. It’s because, they did not live up to my expectations. Which also is why I work them with my autos, until they do.
That is, I work them until their smells last longer than two weeks. I’m talking about sitting it somewhere out side of a jar. Because if it didn’t smell before you put it into a jar, it dam well want smell any better than it originally did after spending weeks inside of one.
I work my plants until they are effective long past a week or 2 of use. In most cases, plants such as those will only remain effective a couple days for me. The photo growers will voice that complaint as frequently as they complain about the plants loosing their smells.
I work my plants until a hit or 2 will blur your vision, make you stumble, and forget what you were doing. Yeah I have some that I breed a lil softer for social occasions. But you better believe that they still get me fux’d up if I smoke too much of it. And I’m talking less than a gram, much less.
So imaging how I feel when I smoke one of those great photos that people are hyping, and have to do my snoop impersonation by lighting up all day long. That may be the norm for you, but it damn well isn’t for me, nor my autos. As my experience with dogs have taught me one of the most important lessons that a breeder can learn…that is, to “cull hard.”
As I was saying, I have yet to purchase photo seed pack that produced plants nearly as potent or as effective as the high that my autos produce. Enough about my personal because I prefer to remain closeted for the moment.
Oh yeah, will I release a “rks.” The answer is that I’m working on it. Will it be as others prefer? Probably not because my preferences, expectations are my own. As I just said, what I expect from my bud is far from what other prefer, or I would be growing there bud and not working as hard as I am on my own stuff.
Enough melancholy. Because I find it depressing that most modern offerings are no more than a blueberry cross. If you want to know what I mean, grow out a DJ short blueberry pack and see for yourself.
They have the same base smell, and they also produce that same high that people find amazing about blueberry. I can’t imagine someone smoking several bowls to get that high. That because I know plants that can produce the same high in just a few hits.
Then there that other thing about most blueberry crosses. I shouldn’t have to say it, but think of BlueDream and the many people who say that it has no high. Remember plants are only as good as their parents who are only as good as their parents. That is unless some type of segregation occurs.
The question then becomes, which came first. Vaniluna sure smells a lot like gelato. The variegation found within the line sure looks like the same variegation found in chem.
How about the common fermented fruit reek that most jelly/gelato strain have. It’s the exact same one that I smell in taste in blueberry as well.
How about that nothing of a high that found in most popular strains, is the same one I found in blueberry. Ok let’s talk about that long lasting, boring indica type high that brother advertise, you know the one people are always complaining about. I found the same exact buzz in some of the blueberries.
Also found was phenos with almost no smell or taste.
We all know their similarities aren't a coincidence. As I say, the bud speaks for itself and there is no lying about it. Therefore it puzzles me as I wonder did blueberry come first, or is the newest blueberry just another cookie/chem hash, because it definitely tastes as such.
Therefore I meant it when I said that I don’t waste too much time digging in other breeder’s trash. How the hell do you think they stay afloat. With your support of course. Which I find to be messed up, because you are supporting the same people who removed everything that you once loved about cannabis and left us with this stuff that lack smell, taste, and a decent high.
Maybe these guys are right to blame autos. That’s because brother did say that his original plant was in fact an auto flower. Therefore wouldn’t it be fitting that an auto save what’s left of cannabis and return our smoke to its former glory.
Anyway way brothers, I have kept you long enough.
 

Blutri

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Hey hold up.. I guess that’s what I get for spending so much time in the other side.
What I’m talking about is the fact that a commercial grower was spewing one of my posts, word for word.
I guess mofos never heard of plagiarism. On the other hand, it was oblivious that he likened my conversation. In any case, I should be honored that a commercial breeder found solace in my conversation. Hell it isn’t the first time. However I question the fact that most of these guys walk around as if they shit don’t stink, all while hoping to find naivety in someone who they think is new to the business.
I guess that I should be used to it by now due to my competitive nature, however there is something about copycats that rub me the word way. First, if you are going to copy someone, at least have a working knowledge how how that person think, and what they are capable of, instead of insinuating that the competition is just like oneself.
When i describe myself as multifaceted, it just my eloquent way of saying just how complex my thought process is. That’s because the word multifaceted is usually associated with diamonds.
When examining my self description, multifaceted diamond in the rough. The first thing someone thing that should come to mind is a lump of coal. Then there is the fact that diamonds are essentially, pure carbon that has be subjected to immense pressure. Not only that, carbon is the most abundant element in the universe.
You see most humans don’t understand what carbon is and that is derived from the burning of of any element. It’s the reason that the Big Bang theory is giving as the beginning of universe.
Hey mr copy cat, are you still with me. Maybe you should fire up some of that stress that causes emesis and uncontrollable coughing. Makings it obvious what your ideology of getting high is. You have a lot to learn brother.
Therefore making it obvious to me, why you take the time, to not only to read my incredibly longs post. Good for you that you have the attention span to do so, but also study what I well and long enough, so that you can repeat my words as your own. Poly want a cracker.
Bro, I’m petty as fux when it comes to bs like that. However I’m not petty enough to point people in your direction. Besides you know who you are. Which is, just another Carbon copy-er. Therefore I thank you for your support. And I would also like to say, quote: there is nothing like the real thing :unquote.
Those who are new, may not understand what transgressive segregation actually is. Which is nothing more than commercial cannabis jargon (industry language) for hybrid vigor. You know the type of vigor that creates things such as the liver, the mule, or the calico cat.
In the case of mammals, these vigorous individuals are usually sterile so that their genetics do not overwhelm current genetics. This is what geneticist refer to as recessive traits, as they are natures ways of allowing inbreeding to only go so far before becoming detrimental.
Sterility is but one of many tools used that is used by nature to prevent fatal combination of genetics for destroying all that has been worked for over the millenniums.
In any case, one of my favorite hybrid animals to discuss is the liger. Liger genetics is the reason that we have white lions and tigers. Anyone who plans on being a serious cannabis breeder should take interest in such genetics anomalies. I will, but I feel that I shouldn’t have to explained to anyone who consider themselves and actual cannabis breeder, because they should already understand what I’m referring to.
However in most cases, they miss that which is occurring before their eyes such as the blu-tri moniker that I used. You see blue tri is a trip combination gene expression that manifest in the coat color patterns of dogs such as the American bully. By the way, i relate cannabis breeding to American bully breeding in the way both have become very messy due to the lack of respect for the true meaning of the word genetics.
As much as it hurts the dogs, there are breeder who incorporate a 4th level of recessiveness to their genetics as they then proceed to produce fatal combinations as nature tries to step in to prevent such genetics from proceeding any further.
I’m sure some cannabis breeders know what I’m referring to when I say that commercial genetics are dead. It’s my way of saying that fatal combinations of genes have begun to out number the amount of successful gene combinations due to human interference. It is also why many cannabis higher up are in disbelief when someone announces that new genetic variation have been found within the current genetics.
The fatal genetics operate in the same manner as the dogs who have completely and a white coats and a myriad of health issues that often becomes fatal. What scientist refer to as evolution, is nothing more than the continuation of the genetics that survived such genetic atrocities.
I think I will start referring to my copy cats as my number one fan. I’m really petty in my ice-cube voice. That’s because I know brother is taking notes.
Anyway, that 4th elemental mutation. turns the dogs coat solid white… and create those “move around because there is nothing to see animals” that’s are are filled with I’ll fated genetics anomalies. This is the type of crap that you see going on, not only in commercial dog breeding, ahem, akc, but also in the craft dog breeding such as the American bullies. I also see it in cannabis breeding as well, which is why I often relate the 2 processes.
Unless you have been under a rock for last 40 years or more, you should know that the blue tri coat pattern is prized in the American bully art.
However there are many here who don’t pay attention to the fact that the blue tri is a triple recessive combination of coat patterns that are found in dogs. I use it here to pay homage to my experience as a dog breeder. It’s part of that complex, multifaceted thought process that i tr! to instill in new breeders so that they don’t ensue the pitfalls that commercial cannabis has places upon them because their primary goal is the profits.
By now they should realize the pit falls of integrating such genetics within their lines. Unfortunately, the gold digging mentality of commercialism, prevent them from seeing over and over again. Instead of talking about what plants look, smell, taste like, they should be discussing why they are having to search 1000’s of seeds for 1 individual that stand out amongst the monotony. And even then, that individual is capable of doing no more than it’s predecessors.
I recall a guy asking me if I had created crosses that preform as well as, or better than my parent strain. And of course the answer is yes because that is what it means to have a true example of segregation, aka hybridization. However, just like in the case of the liger, considerable efforts have to be taking in order to prevented such occurrences from reverting back to their original form.
So the question brother should have been asking, is have I created crosses that continue to preform beyond the original f1 hybridization. The answer to that question is also yes, thus giving me the reason to continue breeding protocol. The time i spend is precious because it gives me a better understanding of not only my genetics, but also other genetics that I work with, including commercial atrocities.
With that said, brother may be able to copy my words, however he is unable to copy my knowledge, because if he had those capabilities, it would have showed up in his offerings by now. In fact it would be all over the commercial cannabis market and bud smokers all over the world wouldn’t be complaining about what cannabis has become. When it comes to over growing the world, one must first present cannabis varieties that are worth growing. We all know that as of yet, it hasn’t happened because there wouldn’t be as many “craft breeders” as there are who refuse to settle for current commercial offering.
Do like you said bro, and fix that shit if you want people to smoke it. Until then, you are just blowing smoke up the cannabis community ass. Copy.
 

Blutri

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@J2M3S
its not that you bother bro. It just I find it hard to understand where you are coming from.
As I don’t speak emoticon, so I don’t have a clue as to what you are trying to say, therefore how can I relate.
It’s obvious that you are trying tell me something, so I’m like “why don’t brother just come out with whatever it is that’s on his mind.”
As you see, only a very few of my post that can be read in under a minute. Unfortunately the ones that you have chosen to emote, are not.
All I’m saying is, help me understand what you are getting at because you keep coming back to this tread for a reason. I hope that reason is more that what I’m seeing. Feel free to correct me. Peace
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As I’m always saying, I prefer the medical side of cannabis because I have with witnesses it change so many lives.
I know many don’t know what’s it like to live in constant pain for 25 years and not use any prescription medication.
For those who don’t know, the reason that medications require a prescription is because it is still in its experimental stage and creates too many harmful effects. To keep people interested in such drugs, the medical society prefer to use the term side effects because it is less scary.
The reasons that these drugs have to be prescribed, is because a doctor deemed that benefit of the drug, out way the harm that it will do to the users body. Therefore my preference is to stay away from prescription medications, which is something that you don’t see in people of my age group.
With that said, I take a step back when I see a breeder who is constantly running to the doctor for whatever medical reason. That’s because that breeder is saying to me that his “cannabis” medication is not performing as it should be, and I don’t want any part of it.
That’s because I believe that if said breeder’s bud does not work for him, then the chances are that it will not work for me either.
You see severe arthritis is prevalent in my family members. Some doctors will call it rhumathoid while other call it fibromyalgia. However in my opinion, it’s all the same disease with the same painful and crippling effects.
Can you imagine the type of pain that will make you scream out loud every time someone touches you. Now imagine living like this for a 1/4 century without any type of relief. Because that’s what it’s like to have such a disease.
Not only that, to also have to deal with spine damage from leaving an imprint of my body in a steel steering wheel of a big truck.
I still get teary eyed when I recall the state trooper who worked my accident, saying to me, that he didn’t know how I was still alive. You see the doctors who were treating me, said nothing as they kept running into my room every 15 minutes drawing blood. That was because my blood showed the enzyme that the heart produces when it is damaged. So they said nothing to me because they didn’t want me to stress myself any more than need be. That was smart thinking by the doctor, and stupidity in the the state trooper who either didn’t know any better or didn’t care.
Anyway because of the accident and the Superman complex that I had when younger, my body as both been tortured and traumatized. Which require me to need good medicines. They type of which that we rarely see in any market. Which is the reason that I created my own version of what works for me. And due to the difference of how our bodies perform as individuals, I can’t say that what I have will provide the same results even though I have tested my product and my claims on many individual. Which is the same thing that’s being down with prescription medications.
The biggest difference between cannabis and prescription medications is that cannabis doesn’t come with a death sentence as does most prescribe medications. Besides that I get real long term effects when the positive effects of prescription drugs are short lived due to how our bodies will immediately evacuate harmful substance.
Therefore I understand all too well when when talking about cannabis that effective for nerve pain, or any type of neurological disorder, because even the most prescribed drugs for these conditions, are barely effective. Which is why so many synthetic pills have to be given to produce any type of relief.
That’s because doctors not only have to provide a pill for pain relief, and then other medications in attempt to repair the damages neural pathways that are being affected. Then hope the 2 or more medications do not react with one another in a negative fashion. It’s like how cbd reacts with thc and a counteracts it’s effects. Or how the different parts of nutrient solution will precipitate when mixed in concentration. Precipitate as in cause undesirable effects, which is exactly what synthetic medicines will do while inside of the body.
I know a lot of guys will carry on about which cannabinoid does what. Not any of that matters to me because all that does matter is that my medication is effective, and stays effective. Which is very hard to do when the previous breeder had different expectations than I do. Unlike some others, I choose not t be a whiny little b-word, and work my selections into what I need them to be.
Therefore whatever rhetoric that some little girl is spewing, they need to take their inability to perform, up with themselves and stop crying all over the place. I’ll tell you like a guy once told me… suck those tears up because they didn’t accomplish anything. And I thanked him for say it that to me, as it made me a much better person who takes disadvantage with stride as I proceed to move forward.
How many of you cats know the difference in smoking a male plant or a female plant. Do you know the difference as to which plant was used as a the male without the breeder saying so.
So you even know what you are pheno hunting for. I see guys all the time taking about how dank some bud looks. Therefore I take dank to mean some pretty crap with very little effects because that’s what it was every time that I have had it.
I have found that one of the hardest thing to do is explain to a breeder why his bud sucks to me.
Your bud suck 1 when it doesn’t get me high before my blunt is over. 2 when it doesn’t remain effective with every use. 3 when the pheno that it’s known for isn’t found within a reasonable amount of beans. 4 when it produces so much stress, what I call adverse conditions, that enjoying the bud almost impossible. 5 when I have to smoke more and more of it to get the same effects that it once produced.
Tossed is what we do to that type of bud around here and we don’t care how others feel about. That’s because we know that only those who are new to cannabis can enjoy such a poorly performing varieties.
With that said, I don’t give a flip as to what someone is spewing on about, when their conversation can’t match their product. Thats because those type of guys are blowing smoke up thier own arses all the while knowing that the only one being fooled, is themselves.
 

J2M3S

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I simply find most of your posts unintelligible, but entertaining to read nonetheless.

I will spare my reactions to your posts going forward. My apologies.
 
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Blutri

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I simply find most of your posts unintelligible, but entertaining to read nonetheless.

I will spare my reactions to your posts going forward. My apologies.
No need to apologize brother because we are all entitled to our own opinions. Like I said, I took no offense because this is the internet where we find all types.
Where most of whom refuse understand the different perspectives of the modern breeder.
With that said bro, I don’t know what you see when it comes to cannabis, but it obvious that it’s not the same thing that I’m dealing with.
My goal is to enlighten people about the new genre of cannabis that doesn’t have many of the shortcomings of the previous cannabis type.
As well, I understand that my vernacular is quite different than most guys here who only see the commercial value of the cannabis.
I appreciate your honest brother because that’s what it is all about. At least now, I know where you are coming from.
Anyway feel free to continue to amuse yourself at my expense. Peace and best of luck to you with your projects.
 

Hollatchaboy

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Hey all. Extending my southern hospitality. Multifaceted, diamond in the rough.
My focus is the breeding auto flowering cannabis. However I also find interest in skunk related genetics.
For all reference, my preference here is only meant to reflect the “what If’s” of cannabis. As the title states, hypothetically thinking.
Topic that discuss are only theoretical and not meant to be used as a guide to persuade anyone ideals about cannabis.
Often my allusion reflect subjects that I read, or encounters with others.
Let’s dive right in with something that A renown breeder said that didn’t seem right by my calculations.
This breeder said no one will make a billion dollars of cannabis. Money motivated as well as Industrial minded, I decided to crunch some number. A shipping container can carry 60k pounds of marijuana. Let’s divide that by ounces which comes to 960,000 ounces when u multiply 60k x 16. @40 and ounce, that container will be worth $38,400,000 ganja bucks. Meaning that you wouldn’t have to fill that shipping container but 26 times to make a billion dollars. You do the math.
However not everyone is paying $40 an oz. @ $100 an ounce, it will only take about 10.41 shipping containers of bud to reach that billion gunja bucks.
Now let’s use $270 that the breeder says he was paying for good smoke. Which equals 259,200,000 million dollars. By anyone’s calculations, it would take less than 4 shipping containers to make a cool billion in gunja bucks. That’s real $$$.
Often I read article about the burning of rainforest to raise cattle. Takes too much efforts to harvest trees due to the secluded locations. Anyway, that’s some real bs, in more ways than one. Hypothetically thinking, those cattle that are being raise on rainforest land are be raised to provide an unending source of high grade fertilizer. Beef, timber, marijuana, keep thinking Juan was only carrying coffee beans.
Anyway, the figures don’t lie as massive grow operations are Literally being found in our own backyards.
Checking out the brickleberry episode season 1 episode 3 for some amusing insight.
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How much did it cost to grow that shipping container full of weed? How much did it cost for the shipping container? You've left all the overhead out of the equation.
 
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