I have 600 dollars, need advice

johnson11223344 said:

http://www.htgsupply.com/Category-Complete-Grow-Kits.asp

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close,but no.

other then the seeds and the wing reflector looks like a pretty good deal.... you can put your own setup togeather for close to that if you wanted.....If your a noob it be much easyer to get clones instead of doing seeds......

johnson11223344 said:

ok checked out htgsupply, they have a complete grow kit that is 1000watt switchable ballast comes with just about everything i think from tent to soil n nutes and grow bags. its like 610 bucks?? has any one else seen this kit??? if so is it a good deal or should i construct my own setup??

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you will learn more from a DYI experience and probably be cheaper. Buying a complete kit is not a bad thing.

if you do enough research you will understand more
of what is needed. Do not confuse NEED with what everyone/someone else has or says or thinks.

seems you have done some research, your future will entail many hours more.

Just reading from and buying the things on a list will not ensure that your grow will be successful. only knowledge, experience and time
will see you through to a successful harvest. more experience = more bountiful harvest.

i was looking at seeds from attitude it was a northren lights 2 strain oasis i think....

600w dimmable lumatek with 22" square air cooled reflector here for $304 with free shipping (subtract bulb price) - http://www.urbansunshine.com/yield-master-6-600w-digital-system
4x4 tent - $109 with free shipping http://www.ebay.com/itm/48-x48-x78-Reflective-Mylar-Hydroponics-Grow-Tent-Room-/230629328265?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item35b2944589
Alternative style tent for $110 here - http://www.ebay.com/itm/Reflective-Mylar-Hydroponic-Plant-48x48x78-Grow-Box-Tent-Growing-Hut-Cabinet-/170718096950?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item27bf976e36
4" Fan and filter combo $120 - http://www.htgsupply.com/Product-A-GrowBright-4in-Inline-Fan-&-Carbon-Filter-Combo.asp
lumatek high par hps bulb $64 - http://www.ezhydroshop.com/lumatek-600w-hps-high-par-output-bulb/

Crap, that's $598.00 but you would still need ducting, tape, soil, pots, nutes and seeds.

That's pretty much what I run anyways and I love it - you could easily swap out the lumatek ballast for a cheap 1000w but personally I retired my crappy 1kW HTG ballast in favor of the 600w lumatek and haven't looked back.

Here is a 1kW digital ballast system with cooled hood for $240 - http://www.ebay.com/itm/1000-Watt-HPS-MH-Air-Cooled-Hood-Cool-Tube-Wing-Reflector-1000W-Grow-Light-Kit-/370557693071?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&var=&hash=item950407bb72

Gastanker said:

600w dimmable lumatek with 22" square air cooled reflector here for $304 with free shipping (subtract bulb price) - http://www.urbansunshine.com/yield-master-6-600w-digital-system
4x4 tent - $109 with free shipping http://www.ebay.com/itm/48-x48-x78-Reflective-Mylar-Hydroponics-Grow-Tent-Room-/230629328265?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item35b2944589
Alternative style tent for $110 here - http://www.ebay.com/itm/Reflective-Mylar-Hydroponic-Plant-48x48x78-Grow-Box-Tent-Growing-Hut-Cabinet-/170718096950?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item27bf976e36
4" Fan and filter combo $120 - http://www.htgsupply.com/Product-A-GrowBright-4in-Inline-Fan-&-Carbon-Filter-Combo.asp
lumatek high par hps bulb $64 - http://www.ezhydroshop.com/lumatek-600w-hps-high-par-output-bulb/

Crap, that's $598.00 but you would still need ducting, tape, soil, pots, nutes and seeds.

That's pretty much what I run anyways and I love it - you could easily swap out the lumatek ballast for a cheap 1000w but personally I retired my crappy 1kW HTG ballast in favor of the 600w lumatek and haven't looked back.

Here is a 1kW digital ballast system with cooled hood for $240 - http://www.ebay.com/itm/1000-Watt-HPS-MH-Air-Cooled-Hood-Cool-Tube-Wing-Reflector-1000W-Grow-Light-Kit-/370557693071?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&var=&hash=item950407bb72

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thats it you cracked the case.... 1000 watt cool tube 240 bucks, 5x5 tent 109 bucks = 349 bucks. 6 inch inline fan for light 100 bucks = 449 bucks. 4 inch inline fan for exaust with 4 inch dampner 60 bucks = 509 bucks.....
were almost there.

Id go with the cool tube hood or the air cooled hood over the straight up cool tube - they cover a larger area more evenly.

And you really only need a single 6" fan to cool the light and provide intake via negative pressure.

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4 of : Premium Nursery Pots - 3 Gallon

http://htgsupply.com/Product-HTGSupply-400-watt-High-Pressure-Sodium-Grow-Light.asp

and T5 lamp

$600 is a lot OR nowhere near enough.
I spent $100 on 5 2'x3' trays pumps fittings
hoses rez's
$50 on 1 gal pots
$75 on hydroton
$50 on aero bucket cloner
$30 on nutrients (Maxi Series from GH)
a HID light can be had for ~$200
etc..

Do more research and don't buy into the Indoor Growing Marketing Hype

why spend $55 on nutrients when a more balanced formula can be had for
$15?

First try and decide how you are going to grow for sure as that will dictate
what you will spend your money on.

Soil has a low start up cost vs. hydro

but with intelligent shopping and a strong desire to learn you can be off to a great start.

I recommend getting these two things for sure

book:
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by See More Buds
$18.95 + tax

a ph test kit..
the drops work just fine
$6.99 + tax

Moses.Lyons said:

$600 is a lot OR nowhere near enough.
I spent $100 on 5 2'x3' trays pumps fittings
hoses rez's
$50 on 1 gal pots
$75 on hydroton
$50 on aero bucket cloner
$30 on nutrients (Maxi Series from GH)
a HID light can be had for ~$200
etc..

Do more research and don't buy into the Indoor Growing Marketing Hype

why spend $55 on nutrients when a more balanced formula can be had for
$15?

First try and decide how you are going to grow for sure as that will dictate
what you will spend your money on.

For example
Good soil does not need a lot of extra plant nutrients so you probably wouldn't
want to spend your $600 on nutrients geared more for hydroponic applications.

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whats going on here? who are you? and what do u do?

1) Big Pimpin' hustla
2) Moses Lyons
3) offer decent advice, anything else is nunyasuchata

Moses.Lyons said:

1) Big Pimpin' hustla
2) Moses Lyons
3) offer decent advice, anything else is nunyasuchata

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no seriously who are u?

who are you?

Moses.Lyons said:

who are you?

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im mongo. why do u ask?

Because you obviously have no
Anonymous Forum Etiquette
Mongo

as I stated previously
I am Moses Lyons

Moses.Lyons said:

who are you?

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please dont post your pics while trying to make me look bad. i will destroy yours.

Doubtful, buuuuuuuut
again Mongo, have a little class
and not ask a member who they are.

Twice.

If you're not opposed to used equipment, keep an eye on Craigslist. I got my current setup for $400, which I consider a steal:

1 4X4 grow tent (Secret Jardin, for flowering)
1 4x2 grow tent (generic, for veg/mothers)
2 air cooled hoods with 6" ducting
1 400 watt switchable ballast
1 2 foot 4 tube T5 (Pioneer II) for sprout/veg
1 4 inch can fan (for air scrubber)
1 6 inch can fan (for cooling lamps)

Add to that ducting, nutes, soil and carbon filter, I spent about $600 altogether. I have a cabinet I use for sprouting or clones, depending, but could easily sneak them into the smaller tent.

I also had another old 400 watt HPS I add to the flowering tent for anything over 4 plants, so you're talking around $600-$700 or so for used equipment and an ideal setup, I'm sure if you were vigilant you could score something similar for $500. I grow for one other person plus myself and could easily accommodate another patient. If you have basement or closet space, forget about the tents and save yourself that much more. If you wanna go hydro add in another $200 give or take to build your own setup.

Anyway, there are a lot of failed first timers getting rid of their barely used stuff on Craigslist (at least around here), if you're patient and check regularly (the good deals seem to go pretty quick after being posted) you can score.

Moses.Lyons said:

Doubtful, buuuuuuuut
again Mongo, have a little class
and not ask a member who they are.

Twice.

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yea you right. your better than i am.
turn me in then if thats what your all about.
dont know how many members u know off this site but ive met a few.
so go fuck your self when trying to tell me how to act. so fuck off and go snitch then u pussy.

Who are you both