What did you germinate them in ? If it was regular potting soil I strongly suggest you try again with Jiffy Seed Starting Mix in the same closet as a test. I have been growing several kinds of peppers for years and some take a very long time to germ compared to other veggies. When I used potting mix, they would damp off and some pots would get some kind of fungus etc... Ever since I made the switch to Jiffy years ago my success rate has went way up and no more fungus...ever. It is more sterile than soil and if you can't tell by now I swear by it.... and I grow all kinds of stuff. I really doubt that it is the closets fault.
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UncleBuck
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i germinate everything in regular soil, usually fox farm cut with perlite but this time with roots "greenlite".
the worst i've run into in the past was with some green algae if i didn't add enough perlite or kept them too damp for too long. never seemed to effect growth and was easily cleaned up by removing that top layer of soil and/or watering with a light solution of rubbing alcohol.
never used jiffy but may give it a shot some time. the tomatoes are enjoying the great outdoors now and the white, fluffy-ish mold on their soil is gone now thanks to a light solution of rubbing alcohol and a few swipes with my finger.
LOL
Your new avatar fucked me up !
I read your last post and thought it was a stranger in here until I saw the sig then I did a doubletake and looked at your username.
The only thing about Jiffy is you have to be ready with some light fertilizer after they sprout because there is nothing for them to feed on, but it sure gets them up in a hurry.
Your new avatar fucked me up !
I read your last post and thought it was a stranger in here until I saw the sig then I did a doubletake and looked at your username.
The only thing about Jiffy is you have to be ready with some light fertilizer after they sprout because there is nothing for them to feed on, but it sure gets them up in a hurry.
UncleBuck
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UncleBuck
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update:
my last batch i went 21/24 with roots within 3 weeks, most within 2 weeks. two plants died because i let them dry out too much, and one plant died in the soil after a week likely due to excessive heat (summer) and a weak root system. poor girl just couldn't handle the transpiration.
current batch is already rooted after 9 days! i'm thinking i'll go 23/24 here (one died on me today, again, let it dry out too much).
proof pics to follow once i get done branching down the latest harvest.
my last batch i went 21/24 with roots within 3 weeks, most within 2 weeks. two plants died because i let them dry out too much, and one plant died in the soil after a week likely due to excessive heat (summer) and a weak root system. poor girl just couldn't handle the transpiration.
current batch is already rooted after 9 days! i'm thinking i'll go 23/24 here (one died on me today, again, let it dry out too much).
proof pics to follow once i get done branching down the latest harvest.
UncleBuck
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stem rot was my problem in perlite when i was struggling, so i don't think it was dryness. plus, it was cold and wet season, so they weren't drying out as quick as normal. not that stem rot should hit as quickly as it was hitting regardless.
no trap. i just checked my clones and was surprised to see tons of white shoots sticking out after 9 days.
You should see the roots on one of them that I showed you. I have it suspended in a 2liter with the roots just sitting in the water. The light is on them and they are still growing like crazy. People say light is bad for the roots. Not if they are submerged. I can't believe I have no algae either. After this test I may do a whole run this way.
UncleBuck
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i tried that once, they stayed alive for three weeks and never rooted. just had them in a glass of water and in dim/partial sunlight. no dice. i'm going to try it again though tomorrow to clean up some sucker branches on my outdoor ladies. do you use rooting hormone in water?
and here are the pics i promised. i still have tons of branching to do (forgot about two plants that are ready for the jar) but fuck it. it'll all get done, i have all night to do it, and fucking around on here is addictive. especially if sharing a success story.
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Hey UB just started cloning on my own for first time. Took 18 cuttings from a plant about 3 weeks in flower. Cut at a 45 degree angle scraped a little on the bottom dropped them in water overnight.The next day put them in solo cups with straight pro mix. I also used clonex. Watered lightly for a couple weeks. I kept them off to the side of my grow room. 24/7 lights. Temps around 80 humidity 55%. Started 18 and 16 came back. Time before had a friend help. Did the heat mat and humidity dome thing only got back half. Know how i'll clone from here on out.
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UncleBuck
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excellent success rate! the inert medium is like perlite, the only difference i can see is that i always use a dome and you let them soak in water for a day first. i might have to try that to see if it increases success.
the method i am now using was one that my friend helped me with, and i've been dialing it in better every run. he claimed he got root nubs within 3-4 days and roots poking out by 5, and i want to see if i can dial it in to his level as well. i've gone from a month to 2-3 weeks to 9 days, i want to keep pushing it now.
No I do not use a hormone in water. Just water straight from the tap at 5.4 ph 20PPM. Some root faster than others, but once they start they go crazy in water. Nothing else that I have tried compares.
Are those root riot plugs ? If not what are they ?
Is that a LED screw in bulb or a UFO above them.
UncleBuck
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those are some kind of rooter plugs they sell at the local shop. i think they are made out of bark castings.
i have two 13 watt CFLs on the sides and some old, jankity LED light on the middle. some patient gave it to me years back for meds. i didn't want to move the 4 foot, 80 watt shop light inside as i needed it for work in the garage.
also, do you let the stem hit the bottom of the glass, or do you keep it off the bottom somehow?
I wonder if that is why yours rotted before ?
I never use a dome. I mist them the first couple of days and keep an eye on them and if any start drooping them may get misted again.
Cuttings are funny things. Some will root at the cut, some at the node, some on a scrape, and some right out of the side where you would least expect it....
5 days is about the quickest I have ever had them start rooting.
skunkd0c
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for sure m8 .. some strains phenos will root very quickly while others can take over 2 weeks easy
i find it uncommon but it does happen, they always root in the end but take that much longer
It does not seem to matter. Those ones I showed you before were touching bottom. They were in the small 3 oz cups and they were going crazy with no nutrients and showing no deficiencies either. The one in the 2L I finally gave some MG and it loves me for it. I may take a pic for you tomorrow.
skunkd0c
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a propagator cost £2 - $1 it is all that is needed
keep the humidity high constantly for the first 3 days "vents closed"
after 3 days open the vents for a few hours each day, only spray them every few days
they do not need to be sprayed very often, keeping them wet slows down rooting imo
the humidity will keep them from wilting
leave a small amount of water at the bottom of the propagator to "cause the high humidity" all through the rooting period
this water will not become stagnant you can leave it for 1 week , i only change it twice during the rooting period
room temp is fine 70f, heat mats and heated propagators are not needed either, they may speed things up a little, but can also cause more problems
best to keep it simple
cuttings will root in 10-14 days 99% of the time, none of them should die
99-100% success is pretty standard
peace
keep the humidity high constantly for the first 3 days "vents closed"
after 3 days open the vents for a few hours each day, only spray them every few days
they do not need to be sprayed very often, keeping them wet slows down rooting imo
the humidity will keep them from wilting
leave a small amount of water at the bottom of the propagator to "cause the high humidity" all through the rooting period
this water will not become stagnant you can leave it for 1 week , i only change it twice during the rooting period
room temp is fine 70f, heat mats and heated propagators are not needed either, they may speed things up a little, but can also cause more problems
best to keep it simple
cuttings will root in 10-14 days 99% of the time, none of them should die
99-100% success is pretty standard
peace
UncleBuck
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those cups cost at least $4 for 25 or so, it's more like the $0.15 hydrocloner.