R&RHashman
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so I don't want to repost the pics unless you want them but is grinding the material bad when making bubble?
ICE WAX (bubble hash) with Matt Rize
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lio lacidem
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@R&RHashman no you should never grind material up when making bubblehash.
R&RHashman
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was supposed to get blasted but things happen and when I got it back it had already been ground up
well at least I know my next run is going to be the same crap.
well at least I know my next run is going to be the same crap.
Joedank
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JPioze
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Quick suggestion to anyone on there hash game, if your growīng with intent to hash it let it over ripen just slightly. So where as i would take about 40% amber for a harvest id instead let it go to 80% on harvest and toss it right into freezer..... I find the first light run collects more and faster when we wait till almost overkill on amber trichs. But the real reason is it has a way more "sit on my lungs" effect. peace and sorry for rambling.
ShLUbY
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Man I've been reading this thread for days! Matt Rize, thank you for sharing this info, you are a beast. Microplanes are on order. Can't wait to see the change when microplaned. I've just been cutting up the patty with some trimmers to get it to dry better which helped, but microplane will change the game. I'm assuming a good place to dry after microplaning is in the fridge? Haven't been on ROI in a couple years. Glad to read this great piece of information.
I want to mention one part of my 5 gallon hand stirred method. After I have collected the first run, I just put some fresh ice in the work bag and pour the cold water from the first wash back into the work bag (could use fresh cold RO if desired). I then just give it a stir for about 20-30 seconds and let it settle again for 20 minutes and pull the bags and collect. You would be amazed what comes out without doing a second mix, just that quick stir to get things in suspension again. Then you don't have to pulverize the material again, and you get a good yield of the same quality as the first run. Try it out, see if it works as well for you all as it did for me. Rize Up everyone.
I want to mention one part of my 5 gallon hand stirred method. After I have collected the first run, I just put some fresh ice in the work bag and pour the cold water from the first wash back into the work bag (could use fresh cold RO if desired). I then just give it a stir for about 20-30 seconds and let it settle again for 20 minutes and pull the bags and collect. You would be amazed what comes out without doing a second mix, just that quick stir to get things in suspension again. Then you don't have to pulverize the material again, and you get a good yield of the same quality as the first run. Try it out, see if it works as well for you all as it did for me. Rize Up everyone.
ShLUbY
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So I ran some bags tonight, and i have a nice screen full in the freezer. Should i transfer it to the fridge to dry for 12-24 hours and microplane.... or should I leave it in the freezer and microplane it when i take a chunk out one at a time and let it slightly thaw??? Also I assume leaving it in the freezer until my microplanes arrive on thursday is ok? Thanks in advance.
Also I did my runs without doing a second mix, just reloaded cold water into the mixed trim and gave it a 30 sec stir and let it settle. was able to pull 3 extra runs, the last being almost not worth it but was still a decent amount. without beating up the material a second time, i saw no loss in quality of the hash to the naked eye, even on the last rinse.
Also I did my runs without doing a second mix, just reloaded cold water into the mixed trim and gave it a 30 sec stir and let it settle. was able to pull 3 extra runs, the last being almost not worth it but was still a decent amount. without beating up the material a second time, i saw no loss in quality of the hash to the naked eye, even on the last rinse.
Joedank
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microplane as frozen as you can get it to lessen the "smear" factor
GhostShadow
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press it and make it hash.
otherwise its kief regardless of loose resin gland separation methodology
otherwise its kief regardless of loose resin gland separation methodology
ShLUbY
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thought the point was to not press?
hyroot
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Pressed hash has better flavor but also require a long cure time. Microplaning is to creative a larger surface area so everything dries at the same rate.
I do pressed hash and ice wax. But I press ice wax. I prefer microplaning and sieving before pressing for the drying process. I also like to keep some in beach sand form as well.
ShLUbY
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ok right on. I used to just let the patties dry for 12-24 hour and them chop them in to 1/4" cubic chunks to get them to dry more efficiently. I like the "medicine" look it gave it. I also wouldn't cover the jar they were in for 1-2 weeks to make sure they were completely dry.
I have never done the microplane, but i like the texture that it gives (or maybe its just cause matt's grease looks so good i just wish they all would do that lol but I know its genetics that play a large role but even the ice wax texture looks fuckin awesome), and it allows the hash to dry all the way, but faster, which seems like it would be beneficial to its integrity. maybe i'll do a bit of both techniques and post some pics up. I pulled the hash from the freezer today to let it dry. have it in a cold air conditioned dark room. tomorrow i will microplane on to parchment paper and leave it in there to dry for the next couple days. Sound like a plan?
hyroot
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You want to freeze the patty after 12-24 hours of drying.. For about an hour or 2. You want it to be frozen when you microplane. Otherwise it will smear and not go through the grater / microplane.
If you let it dry completely without mixroplaning . You can just sieve it instead. Using a mesh ladle like the one in Rizes pics.
ShLUbY
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no this stuff globs up when it dries so sieving isn't an option lol. ok i'm gonna toss it in the freezer tonight then. it has a nice shell around it, that will be easy to handle. it's still very gooey on the inside. it no longer moistens paper towel. freezing it after drying makes sense... not sure how i got that backwards. took me days to read through this thread so i just got it mixed up in the sensory overload of beautiful hash from everyone lol. I've been making the highest quality of bubble in the group of people i know, and like everyone says what goes in comes out, and i think my herb is pretty on point. bout to go to living soil, just doing my homework before i do, seems to me the only way to grow "organically". Can't wait to see the resin those plants put off....
hey thanks for the fast response, been a real help. should i cover it in the freezer or does it not matter?
Edit: Also, do i want the patty to warm slightly before i start microplaning it?? i remember reading what matt said about how he doesn't like to microplane frozen solid chunks because it breaks open a lot of the heads and causes extra oxidation to the hash...
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hyroot
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Wine cooler fridge. Not regular fridge. A regular fridge has too much humidity. That's to preserve it so it won't oxidize and cake out.
ShLUbY
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shit.... will an air conditioned room work that's about 65degrees? i know that's pretty well pushing the limit...
hyroot
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Yeah. It might oxidize a little . But still be terpy and full melt. Work with what ya got. You're not trying to drop $100 grams or anything so...
