ICE WAX (bubble hash) with Matt Rize

cheeseterd12345 said:

Mr. Rize thanks so much for posting all of this incredible information. Your love for what you do shows by how you present yourself. Many thanks.

To Matt or anybody else who might know;

This was my first run using Matt's excellent instructions. Everything turned out well except I expected a bit more in the yield department.

First I noticed that it was easy to spray the actual hash through the screens. I felt like I was losing lots of hash by spraying the it towards the middle. Every time I would try and spray it towards the middle I was spraying it through the screen itself. This was especially noticeable for the 90 and 73 screens.

I know the bags are quality because I got the x-tractor bags Matt recommended.

Second question being is yield related to ratio of ice to water? I mean I am wondering if you get more yield with more ice due to decreased water temperature. I ask because I bought 120lbs of ice and was running out towards the end (lots of trim) so I just scimped on ice instead of running out and buying more. Was this a bad idea? Wondering if tons of ice is absolutely necessary on every run.

Thanks a lot guys.

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We tested the Xtraktor bags. And our conclusion is to stick with Mila's bags from Holland for drain bags, and Bubbleman's work bags. The Xtraktor bags seemed to both alter the yield and lower the quality compared to the Mila bags. "Pollinator" aka Ice-o-lator Bags.

Never skimp on ice!!!

Blah! Dang wish I had of got the bubbleman bags! Good to know now I will get a pair for the next round.

Thanks for the reply Matt!

got my bubblebags in like 08, still performing like a champ!

is there a difference in the outdoor ice o lator bags and the indoor ones?

and what do you mean by work bags and drain bags?

90u from imasmoker420's second ever batch of IceWax



73u

these look amazing bud thanks for taking those pics. i cant take all the credit, riu member lightsoda also did half the work and research. just did the our third batch ever and well i think it looks better than these two did so ill forsure update.

Why the hell is Matt Rize so semi-famous only thing I've heard of him doing is making good bubble hash but bubble hash is easy as pie so whats the big deal. not really bashing you Matt just don't know why so many people talk about you.

I joined this site just to show appreciation to Matt Rize... The dude is a genius haha. After reading every page in this thread I decided I NEEDED to buy some bubble bags. In my area there is nothing but BHO and I want nothing to do wth that! I can't wait to practice making hash n hopefully get half as decent quality as Mr. Rize! RIZE UP!

it aint practice man. look at the guy 2 posts above. thats his second run, it looks killer. anyone can do it. its 90% dependant on the material that you start with. cant turn chicken shit into chicken soup.

kiss-ass lol........

Here's a fresh batch I made today... This was my very first time using bubble bags and I didn't have a fancy machine or a micro plane haha. I used some sour diesel and chemdawg trimming. What do you guys think?

Some kinda cheap bags but they have an extended sidewall for faster drainage.


45 micron on the left and 90 micron on the right.

looks like very good shit for your first try.

Danks Matt. Your generous sharing has led myself and many others to experience IWE that is pure joy. If you ain't getting hated on you ain't doin' shit. Practice makes perfect, solventless dabs only in my rig! Grateful to be one of the hash makers. I have changed my garden style to straight up living organic soil, but I will continue to make IWE out of every harvest and cherish every puff. Big melty dabs!

Hi guys, just stopping in to say hello.

So,” hello”..

Matt, I got mad respect for you and your passion for the beloved hash.

I too have grown a seriously deep passion for organic hash production, and have chosen this as a life changing evolution.

That being said, thank you for promoting Ice Water Extractions.

The only” beef” I have is the use of the word solventless...

Although a” simple solvent”..water is still a solvent.

Other than that mad props.

Edit: Fuck it...with production like yours...call it whatever you deem proper.

*In the voice of Skeletor*
” I'll catch up to you one day Rize!...one of these days, I'll be as good as you, Rize!”

*shaking fists at the heavens*
Haha..

Sorry, errrly morning dabs make me act stupid...haha.

I had a quick question, so I did the gumby method to extract kief from my material. From my understanding that is similar to bubble hash except bubble hash uses screens/bags and gumby is gravity based. I was wondering, since I collected all my kief can I still use screens to collect the higher quality trichomes to achieve the full melt effect? Can I just run it threw the 45, 75, 90 screen to achieve that? Would doing it dry be ok as oppossed to water? Thanks! All the pictures look so beautiful I would love to taste them!

Solvent - A solvent (from the Latin solvō, "I loosen, untie, I solve") is a substance that dissolves a solute (a chemically different liquid, solid or gas), resulting in a solution. A solvent is usually a liquid but can also be a solid or a gas.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solvent

To address your 'beef' with the word solventless as nikka uses it. In the IWE process the resin heads are never dissolved by the cold pure water so it is technically not acting as a solvent. Solventless hash it is! And its tasty and not tainted.

*In the voice of HE-MAN*
So many folks shoulda realized that chemistry class would be pertinent to the rest of our lives and payed closer attention.

HTH

Kalyx said:

Solvent - A solvent (from the Latin solvō, "I loosen, untie, I solve") is a substance that dissolves a solute (a chemically different liquid, solid or gas), resulting in a solution. A solvent is usually a liquid but can also be a solid or a gas.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solvent

To address your 'beef' with the word solventless as nikka uses it. In the IWE process the resin heads are never dissolved by the cold pure water so it is technically not acting as a solvent. Solventless hash it is! And its tasty and not tainted.

*In the voice of HE-MAN*
So many folks shoulda realized that chemistry class would be pertinent to the rest of our lives and payed closer attention.

HTH

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ah ,
” touche' pussy-cat”...haha

Noice come-back, and as stated in my edit:
These guys can call it ” Golden Horse shit”..and I'd still, love it... Like, I said, the product speaks for itself , and they can call it whatever they want..lol

However, you still haven't proven that water is not a simple solvent, because it is.

Even though the trichome doesn't ” dissolve”, the solvent is used as a vehicle to collect the trichomes.

Edit: The definition of solution is what?...

Edit #2: My post had one tiny little ” issue” and the rest was nothing but complimentary commentary.

I even came back and rectified the ” issue”; by stating” with product like yours, call it whatever you want”

All positive notes, yes?

You pick that one little sentence, that had been rectified, and then insult me?
Why?
Edit #3: Solvent - A solvent (from the Latin solvō, "I loosen, untie, I solve") is a substance that dissolves a solute (a chemically different liquid, solid or gas), resulting in a solution

*loosen untie* *a chemically different liquid*

In the attempt to make me look foolish, by your own provided definition, you have beckoned foolishness upon yourself.

http://chemistry.about.com/od/waterchemistry/f/Why-Is-Water-The-Universal-Solvent.htm
Please read above link.
I can provide more if needed.

Talk about chemistry class...

This is a pointless debate.

Now that chemistry is over!! Lol jk guys!

I do have an honest question tho, anyone one here using these 'hash-pens' or e cigs like joyetech's for bubble? I want to stay away from BHO and the likes but all the pens are either over priced or have no reviews of use with bubble? I am NOT looking for expensive pens like the atmos or omicron! Anyone use a cheap alternative that works?