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spazatak said:
No... I was quoting where you said his posts would be treated as spam as abiquita seems to dispute that fact

you have a good section with a good bunch of guys but this "dont buy kind LED" is getting old..
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Never wrote that, lol, getting defensive are we ? Must be getting closer to the trufth. A community forum is just that, censoring it, kind of takes the community out of it, but you don't seem bright enough to get it.

Be a "big boy" and drop the malarkey.
 
Abiqua said:
Never wrote that, lol, getting defensive are we ? Must be getting closer to the trufth. A community forum is just that, censoring it, kind of takes the community out of it, but you don't seem bright enough to get it.

Be a "big boy" and drop the malarkey.
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No one is censoring anything except the constant spamming and hijacking of threads from HGROW..


you seem upset for some reason... wanna talk?
 
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PSUAGRO. said:
So you bought a rebranded led panel from a guy who does all his R&D videos in his 'bedroom"..........yeah that makes sense:p

should have stuck with the brotherhood Ibeam.....................damn I'm cranky, I need a smoke break.
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Hey P! Do you have any threads or journals that you can point me to that show an actual iBeam run from start to finish?
 
CaliWorthington said:
Good one. I spoke with a shop that tested the ibeam, they were not impressed. Yeah I suppose it's rebranded, except the spectrum is different. Like I said, whatever, I don't give a shit about so-called "American built LED" drama. Bysen has 36 patents. Something better will come along very soon I'm sure. Have a nice smoke bro.

For the record, nothing against higher quality "American made" LEDs, but when you need multiples, the cost really starts to add up. Maybe later I'll get something more expensive. Or if this sucks, I'll be the first to admit it.
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Induction lamps are electrodeless fluorescent lamps. The difference between brands has more to do with the difference in phosphors they use to emit certain wavelengths and how efficient the design is at getting as much energy from the lamp to the canopy. Like most things in life, all induction lamps are not created equal.
 
spazatak said:
No one is censoring anything except the constant spamming and hijacking of threads from HGROW..


you seem upset for some reason... wanna talk?
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Yeah , I did . By the way , what did you do here ? I hijack threads ? I just tell the people to be careful when they choose LED grow lights .It seems that you are unhappy about my thread . I know in this forum , there are some people who buy Apollos before , I am sure that they must have experience with Failed Apollo LED (or rebranded Apollos ) . Failed and get replacements .That's why I can post those photoes to warn the people here , new or old members . Maybe I am not welcome here , why ? Because I am doing something make them unhappy , upset . You are one of them , I know that .
Where's your thread ? If you don't have your own thread , then Shut UP .
 
Hgrow said:
Yeah , I did . By the way , what did you do here ? I hijack threads ? I just tell the people to be careful when they choose LED grow lights .It seems that you are unhappy about my thread . I know in this forum , there are some people who buy Apollos before , I am sure that they must have experience with Failed Apollo LED (or rebranded Apollos ) . Failed and get replacements .That's why I can post those photoes to warn the people here , new or old members . Maybe I am not welcome here , why ? Because I am doing something make them unhappy , upset . You are one of them , I know that .
Where's your thread ? If you don't have your own thread , then Shut UP .
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You have a thread about Apollo/KIND LED... go post in it...
 
Or why you always shout there ？ And don't post some thread , growing thread or some threads which tell people here what you know .Not just tell people that Hgrow hijack someone's thread ,people who that .They are not idiots, you think the people here are ???? Do something meaningful .
 
spazatak said:
You have a thread about Apollo/KIND LED... go post in it...
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Yeah , of course I have . Where is yours ?? Man , do something to show us .Tell the people here , especially new led growers , to make right choice when they want to switch from HPS to LED or Induction grow lights . Do something meaningful , people know that .
 
I stood up for hgrow originally because the info is real. But now I retract my support.
It's not exactly new news by any means. And you have gone too far and definitely call this spam. The point has been made already... now find a way to show what works and use the failures of china/cheap as justification for you product of choice that works.
It's not that what your(hgrow) are saying is wrong/false...but you ethics and antics about it are.

I apologize to everyone that realized this before I did.

I will never recommend Chinese/resold lights myself, but if some one has one, I wouldn't put them down before it shows issues. And still "I told you so" is never the best way to go about it either.
 
^^^^^^Agreed^^^^^, Don't want to put fuel on the fire.....but Hgrow we all at some point have made comments to prove or disprove a given led product...I've tested many (too many maybe) over the years on here. But instead of this uproar about what doesn't work, I want to see you report a grow you've conducted with what does work. Most of us are doing that right now.
 
What all the chinese 'grow' lights have in common is, their spectrums are not selected for mj.

WE made that leap, and WE were wrong

Since mj is a fruiting plant, it responds best to a full light spectrum

Can you grow with peak PAR? Yes, but at what cost to the fruit?

I SUSPECT that the High Bay COB lights will last longer and perform better, and for less money
 
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