Illinois medical marijuana card wait time

TrailblazerTony

TrailblazerTony

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By The By, saw this.
Intractable Pain Still Remains Left Out
In January 2018, an Illinois judge ruled that the state should add intractable pain to the qualifying conditions for medical marijuana. Raymond Mitchell, the Cook County Judge, ordered the Illinois Department of Health to include it, but they strongly opposed it
Here are a few facts about the case:

  • Ann Mednick petitioned the Department of Public Health and filed a lawsuit requesting that intractable pain be added to the list since it will have fewer side effects than opioids.
  • Nirav Shah, the Public Health Director, stated there was not enough high-quality data from clinical trials to support the addition of the condition.
  • Judge Raymond Mitchell said Nirav’s thinking was erroneous because medical journals had published reviews of 45 clinical studies that showed the effectiveness of medical marijuana for chronic pain treatment.
  • The Health Department refused and appealed the judge’s order.
  • The appeal has put the expected expansion of the list of conditions on hold.
  • Adding intractable pain to the qualifying conditions would have brought great relief to many patients and increased the sales of licensed dispensaries.
  • This is What Cresco Rep said JB wants to Revoke, so ALL people in Chronic pain can get Relief. The Shah Must Go!
 
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Myk63

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mlpntr said:
No mail yesterday or today... whatever happened to mail delivery despite the weather?
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LOL, I've looked that up. It no longer applies.
Applied when people wore wool. Doesn't apply with space age fabrics like Goretex. What a crazy world it has become.


TrailblazerTony said:
Could have sworn I wrote that last Paragraph!! Can you tell we are the same age?
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Good thing it didn't smell like this back then or there would be a lot more arrest records.
My topper reeked when I got home from my first trip to the dispensary.


TrailblazerTony said:
By The By, saw this.
  • Nirav Shah, the Public Health Director, stated there was not enough high-quality data from clinical trials to support the addition of the condition.
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Political qualifier code for "there's plenty of data but I don't like the conclusion it comes to".
 
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trynakeepitanon

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hope7187 said:
So basically everything is going to be a day behind now since the world is closing, right?


Anyone's work making them go in today?
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Nope! I get paid to stay home and enjoy the best medical cannabis the world can offer!

Currently lifting off!

Stay warm and enjoy your day! I wish all of you had access medical cannabis on a day like today!
 
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trynakeepitanon

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And anybody that tells you that there is no difference between the weed from the 80s and the weed you can get in the store, just know: they are wrong(Myk63).

The quality is head and shoulders above anything that you’ve ever been able to get on the street. The street also doesn’t have any standards with regards to microbiological, pesticides, etc.

The buds are happy, potent, and legal. The blackmarket buds are scared, pressed (from vaccum sealed bags), and riddled with pesticides, microbiologicals, mold, etc.

You’d have to be an idiot to think that the black market has any standards. Their only standard is: grow and sell as much as you can without getting caught. And it shows.
 
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nneptune5

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trynakeepitanon said:
And anybody that tells you that there is no difference between the weed from the 80s and the weed you can get in the store, just know: they are wrong(Myk63).

The quality is head and shoulders above anything that you’ve ever been able to get on the street. The street also doesn’t have any standards with regards to microbiological, pesticides, etc.

The buds are happy, potent, and legal. The blackmarket buds are scared, pressed (from vaccum sealed bags), and riddled with pesticides, microbiologicals, mold, etc.

You’d have to be an idiot to think that the black market has any standards. Their only standard is: grow and sell as much as you can without getting caught. And it shows.
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I was stoned through most of the '80s, and started up again in the mid-'90s. Then I quit again around 15 years ago. Since my divorce, 10 years ago, I've dated several women who have had access to medical cannabis, and HOLY CRAP, it was absolutely amazing! A few tokes, and I was feeling really good! The feeling was much better, too. I'm really looking forward to the help, and feeling decent again.
 
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nneptune5

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hope7187 said:
So basically everything is going to be a day behind now since the world is closing, right?


Anyone's work making them go in today?
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The governor only closed 6 agencies, and IDPH is NOT one of them. I'm sure they'll be short-staffed, but they're open. Luckily, I work for an agency that the governor staffs half of (not me), so he closed mine! Just wish I had my card and some cannabis to enjoy in this Arctic Tundra!
 
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Myk63

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trynakeepitanon said:
And anybody that tells you that there is no difference between the weed from the 80s and the weed you can get in the store, just know: they are wrong(Myk63).

The quality is head and shoulders above anything that you’ve ever been able to get on the street. The street also doesn’t have any standards with regards to microbiological, pesticides, etc.

The buds are happy, potent, and legal. The blackmarket buds are scared, pressed (from vaccum sealed bags), and riddled with pesticides, microbiologicals, mold, etc.

You’d have to be an idiot to think that the black market has any standards. Their only standard is: grow and sell as much as you can without getting caught. And it shows.
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Mold recalls do happen with legal (see if you get a recall from the street). Other than labs you'd be very hard pressed to tell the difference with what I've had recently. I could see someone growing a few plants for personal caring and picking up a few dollars from friends.
I think that's who is truthfully saying the quality on the street is as good as legal. I also think there are a lot of people simply lying when they say that. High Times created a connoisseur fad and people think if they complain it makes them sound like one, that's why they can't say why it's not quality, or freak out about a single seed.


nneptune5 said:
I was stoned through most of the '80s, and started up again in the mid-'90s. Then I quit again around 15 years ago. Since my divorce, 10 years ago, I've dated several women who have had access to medical cannabis, and HOLY CRAP, it was absolutely amazing! A few tokes, and I was feeling really good! The feeling was much better, too. I'm really looking forward to the help, and feeling decent again.
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Glad you said that. I was thinking it was me or the meds I'm on (which are what got me craving cannabis, and I bet my tolerance goes from nothing to sky high this weekend). I saw a video of a guy who vaped 6 bowls of herb and dabbed 2 bowls. He was wasted but I'd be in a fetal position thinking I was dying if I vaped 1 bowl.
It's easy for me to get too high I was starting to wonder if it's worth it. But while I've had a lot of day after headaches I haven't had one I've seen a migraine aura with coming up on 4 weeks. If I can stop having migraines and sleep for 8 hours with no other benefits it will be worth it.
I also felt better than normal up to a week before infusion, which should take away the threat of adding methotrexate, that would be very worth it.
 
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whendiesel

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Myk63 said:
Glad you said that. I was thinking it was me or the meds I'm on (which are what got me craving cannabis, and I bet my tolerance goes from nothing to sky high this weekend). I saw a video of a guy who vaped 6 bowls of herb and dabbed 2 bowls. He was wasted but I'd be in a fetal position thinking I was dying if I vaped 1 bowl.
It's easy for me to get too high I was starting to wonder if it's worth it. But while I've had a lot of day after headaches I haven't had one I've seen a migraine aura with coming up on 4 weeks. If I can stop having migraines and sleep for 8 hours with no other benefits it will be worth it.
I also felt better than normal up to a week before infusion, which should take away the threat of adding methotrexate, that would be very worth it.
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I would start mixing in CBD strains. I usually do a 50/50 mix since I can't handle high THC strains. It makes the high less intense.
 
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trynakeepitanon

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“Mold recalls do happen with legal” yeah...that was sort of my point. Mold recalls don’t happen on the black market.

And just because you have a low tolerance doesn’t mean that the quality of today is the same as the 80-90s. It just simply isn’t true.

Cannabis nowadays can have 30%+ THC in it. The shit you smoked in the 80s/90s was all below 16%

Don’t kid yourself. If professionals grow, they yield a professional product. Criminals don’t care if the product is good or not, they just want your money.

You are essentially trying to compare Pablo Escobars cocaine with lab-quality cocaine.

There simply isn’t a comparison. I’d rather have something cultivated in a lab that has standards than ingest a product that is grown in secret and in non-standardized environments.

I’m not trying to say you didn’t have fun with your weed in the 80s/90s. But to say that there is no difference in the quality of product is simply unrealistic and false.
 
LEEla

LEEla

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trynakeepitanon said:
“Mold recalls do happen with legal” yeah...that was sort of my point. Mold recalls don’t happen on the black market.

And just because you have a low tolerance doesn’t mean that the quality of today is the same as the 80-90s. It just simply isn’t true.

Cannabis nowadays can have 30%+ THC in it. The shit you smoked in the 80s/90s was all below 16%

Don’t kid yourself. If professionals grow, they yield a professional product. Criminals don’t care if the product is good or not, they just want your money.

You are essentially trying to compare Pablo Escobars cocaine with lab-quality cocaine.

There simply isn’t a comparison. I’d rather have something cultivated in a lab that has standards than ingest a product that is grown in secret and in non-standardized environments.

I’m not trying to say you didn’t have fun with your weed in the 80s/90s. But to say that there is no difference in the quality of product is simply unrealistic and false.
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Makes me excited about the dispensaries. Some people who have never even been to a dispensary will argue that the cannabis there isn’t all that great. I’m just like, “How?” I mean if it sold out of a legit dispensary I don’t see how it wouldn’t be better than black market cannabis.
I like to believe that a dispensary all in all of the best place to get cannabis. :bigjoint:
 
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trynakeepitanon

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LEEla said:
Makes me excited about the dispensaries. Some people who have never even been to a dispensary will argue that the cannabis there isn’t all that great. I’m just like, “How?” I mean if it sold out of a legit dispensary I don’t see how it wouldn’t be better than black market cannabis.
I like to believe that a dispensary all in all of the best place to get cannabis. :bigjoint:
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I’ve honestly been to a few that had some bud that looked like some shit I’d see on the street. But that was in Colorado. Colorado had a selection of low quality flower, medium quality, and high quality.

Haven’t seen any subpar flowers here in Illinois...then again, the prices are pretty sharp! In other words, I’ve only seen great cannabis in Illinois, but you sure do pay for it
 
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Adamswm92

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Just spoke with idph. I applied 1-10-19. And was inquiring about provisional. I was told anyone that applied before Jan 31st WILL NOT be getting an email. I expressed I would like I cancel my application and I will re apply Monday, to which I would receive an email immediately.

I then got transferred to a supervisor to discuss refund of application fee. To be told there are no refunds, when I told her I wanted to cancel and re apply regardless she put me on hold for a second. Then came back and said "I would not recommend cancelling, we are not suppose to tell this information yet, but we will be going back to December 1st 2018 with provisional emails. However we do not have a date when that will happen so we can't give that information out yet."
I then explained if I can pay another $100 and get my PA within a week I will
To which she responded, " we are not looking at weeks for the back dating to happen, we are looking at days. Again I strongly recommend waiting another week before paying for another application."

For all the 12-1-18 to current applicants hopefully you gain the same hope I did from this.
 
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Myk63

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whendiesel said:
I would start mixing in CBD strains. I usually do a 50/50 mix since I can't handle high THC strains. It makes the high less intense.
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This week I've been doing nothing but 1:1. Last night I did a 2:1 CBD and it was good. Friday I won't be surprised if I can do 29% THC and feel normal if my pre-card testing was any indication. I think the reason is tied to the biologic that got me craving cannabis after 20 years, my drug levels are low this week.
A couple weeks ago I was vaping a bowl of Columbian Gold or Northern Lights in an evening with no problem. This week a hitter of Northern Lights sent me into a panic attack.


trynakeepitanon said:
“Mold recalls do happen with legal” yeah...that was sort of my point. Mold recalls don’t happen on the black market.

And just because you have a low tolerance doesn’t mean that the quality of today is the same as the 80-90s. It just simply isn’t true.

Cannabis nowadays can have 30%+ THC in it. The shit you smoked in the 80s/90s was all below 16%

Don’t kid yourself. If professionals grow, they yield a professional product. Criminals don’t care if the product is good or not, they just want your money.

You are essentially trying to compare Pablo Escobars cocaine with lab-quality cocaine.

There simply isn’t a comparison. I’d rather have something cultivated in a lab that has standards than ingest a product that is grown in secret and in non-standardized environments.

I’m not trying to say you didn’t have fun with your weed in the 80s/90s. But to say that there is no difference in the quality of product is simply unrealistic and false.
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I never said it was the same as the 80s or 90s. I said dispensary stuff is light years ahead of that.
I said the stuff I got on the street in the last 2 years was the same quality as dispensary stuff but without the labs.
I also don't think "quality" has anything to do with THC % or how stoned it gets you, those are variety issues. If that's what you think you're saying none of the CBD varieties are quality.
The 16% half I got for $100 is still better quality than anything I got decades ago, except maybe Gainsville and it has nothing to do with how high it got me (which was way too high). That's my rant about people talking about quality when they have no idea what quality means, I suspect that word is thrown around to sound smart but it really just means potent.
I'm not comparing Pablo's anything, that's all you doing that.

When legal passes and hopefully at least medical cards can grow I don't think my 5 plants are going to be equal to Mexican ditch weed. I don't imagine it's going to be sprayed with pesticides at all. I know what I've done under fluorescent tubes and dirt, lights have come a long way since then and hydroponic shops are plentiful.
 
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Myk63

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Adamswm92 said:
Just spoke with idph. I applied 1-10-19. And was inquiring about provisional. I was told anyone that applied before Jan 31st WILL NOT be getting an email. I expressed I would like I cancel my application and I will re apply Monday, to which I would receive an email immediately.

I then got transferred to a supervisor to discuss refund of application fee. To be told there are no refunds, when I told her I wanted to cancel and re apply regardless she put me on hold for a second. Then came back and said "I would not recommend cancelling, we are not suppose to tell this information yet, but we will be going back to December 1st 2018 with provisional emails. However we do not have a date when that will happen so we can't give that information out yet."
I then explained if I can pay another $100 and get my PA within a week I will
To which she responded, " we are not looking at weeks for the back dating to happen, we are looking at days. Again I strongly recommend waiting another week before paying for another application."

For all the 12-1-18 to current applicants hopefully you gain the same hope I did from this.
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Big red letters, no refunds.

That's idiotic they aren't supposed to tell people how it's going to work. Who do they think they work for? They may also want to get with the Representative they've been talking to because she has no problem telling people how it's going to work.

Just like they sit on applications for 60 days doing nothing for job security they're screwing over November applicants with their silence to have job security. Nothing compassionate about it. The $100 fee is all about the state making money (and it was proposed to be much higher).
 
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Adamswm92

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I specifically asked the supervisor to update the first lady I spoke too. She told me that lady told me what she was instructed since there isn't any rock solid dates yet. (Although the first lady told me 3 times I WONT get PA. No sense in outright telling us no when there is a high probability the answer is yes it will just take longer)

I was happy how she updated me so I didn't want to push her buttons. But I thought to myself, I guess idph is just like any other department in Illinois, start throwing a fit and you'll start getting answers
 
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