TheBrutalTruth
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Hey, newgrowth, out of curiosity who is getting your vote?
I'm voting for McCain....
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NewGrowth
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Chuck Baldwin . . . only due to the Ron Paul endorsement. I was going to vote Obama but I feel a protest vote coming on. They can at least include one third party candidate in the debates.
Multan
Well-Known Member
"Bomb Bomb Bomb Iran!"
When Obama made this remark in regards to McCains past policies, i was LoLing @ McCain's expression.
He knew he was fucked.
Lets face it...politics is about joining the in crowd and bandwagon'in
McCain has what been in game for like 30 years almost?
He's probably ridden more bills than hoes.
I was kind of shocked when McCain failed to introduce his 2nd wife.
LOL
When Obama made this remark in regards to McCains past policies, i was LoLing @ McCain's expression.
He knew he was fucked.
Lets face it...politics is about joining the in crowd and bandwagon'in
McCain has what been in game for like 30 years almost?
He's probably ridden more bills than hoes.
I was kind of shocked when McCain failed to introduce his 2nd wife.
LOL
Only a fool would be able to look at inner city streets where school's, parks and residential homes are at such a close proximity ,
and try to claim that gun laws are not in need of reform...
And as for the legalization issue let's see now... The goverment makes money off Marijuana not unlike alcohol, our economy gains a new multi million dollar (ifnotbillion) industry while generally making the world a safer place in the process spawing a bunch of mellow agriculture specialists cheers to rollitup
. On the other hand we have elite fatcat arms dealers selling guns made in here in America to 3rd world countries who inturn sell them back to our inner cities when they run out of bullets.
The small fraction of tax money generated in comparison to the revenue Ciggarattes Alchohol and Gambeling is miniscule.
Slow down Blinko, you are making way to much sense. 'They' are not going to understand you, lol!Only a fool would be able to look at inner city streets where school's, parks and residential homes are at such a close proximity ,
and try to claim that gun laws are not in need of reform...
And as for the legalization issue let's see now... The goverment makes money off Marijuana not unlike alcohol, our economy gains a new multi million dollar (ifnotbillion) industry while generally making the world a safer place in the process spawing a bunch of mellow agriculture specialists cheers to rollitup
On the other hand we have elite fatcat arms dealers selling guns made in here in America to 3rd world countries who inturn sell them back to our inner cities when they run out of bullets.
The small fraction of tax money generated in comparison to the revenue
Ciggarattes Alchohol and Gambeling is miniscule.
Good post!
Leilani Garden
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Yeah, that's backward, to put it midly. Although I'm on the other side of this fence from you, Brutal Truth, I have to say that you've got a good point here.
McC is not a communist. He's all for keeping the disastrous tax cuts for the upper classes, all for continuing to blow billions in Iraq, etc. A communist would be all for punishing the upper classes (which is NOT what Obama is talking about, btw).
As for religious zealots, McC did have that one preacher guy--cannot recall his name at the moment (because the "liberal" media covered it only very, very briefly)--who said some crazy, off the wall stuff, and then McC had to come out and say that he no longer wanted the support of said preacher man. Obama's religious ties are household news now. Everyone knows the name of hte preacher. I'm not going to type it out because of that. We all know, already.
A god-fearing person can be a bible basher/banger, whatever you'd want to call them, though. We've seen some outrageous behavior in the last few years from the religious right. They have their faith in their Christian god, but they seem to get the message all wrong: Jesus was never all for kicking ass; never all for getting off on the death penalty (in fact, wasn't he himself crucified???); never all for singling out certain groups of minorities and harming them and persecuting them by excluding them from rights that others enjoy (like gays and marriage). Jesus was a very laid back guy. He advocated forgiving your enemies, praying for them, being as nice as you can, giving to the poor, and other boring virtues like that. He also never said anything about abortion, homosexuality, and things of that nature that the religious right is so angry about--and those fears of the religious right have been exploited by the political right (more fascists tendencies--def not communist). So this part of the diatribe above does make sense. I'm just not convinced . . .well, see what Brutal Truth wrote.
The marriage of the religious right and the far right political spectrum in the last eight years has been sickening and offensive. Way over the top and a bastardization of what Christianity is all about. Or what it was supposed to be.
Brutal Truth? Why are you restricting your question re Obama/McC and who is a better choice based only on the bail-out mess? Or was that just because it was this week's news?
Blinkboo wrote:
Only a fool would be able to look at inner city streets where school's, parks and residential homes are at such a close proximity ,
and try to claim that gun laws are not in need of reform...
And as for the legalization issue let's see now... The goverment makes money off Marijuana not unlike alcohol, our economy gains a new multi million dollar (ifnotbillion) industry while generally making the world a safer place in the process spawing a bunch of mellow agriculture specialists cheers to rollitup .
On the other hand we have elite fatcat arms dealers selling guns made in here in America to 3rd world countries who inturn sell them back to our inner cities when they run out of bullets.
The small fraction of tax money generated in comparison to the revenue Ciggarattes Alchohol and Gambeling is miniscule.
Wow! Yes, great points. The government and the corporatists are making huge amounts of money off the privatized prisons housing "criminals" convicted of marijuana-related offenses. If anyone doubts how much truth there is in Blinkboo's statement, just google it. The prison population has soared due to the privatization of the prisons.
And yes, yes, yes on the arms dealers. And on mercenaries like Blackwater. And on parasitic carbuncles like Halliburton, etc. These groups are costing huge amounts of money, all to be financed by us.
medicineman
New Member
Geeze, L-Garden, sometimes you make so much sense it's frightening. After watching the debates last night, (Of course Obama won), they both scared then hell out of me, Talking about being stern with Russia like it was a wayward child. I'm pretty sure those Ruskies won't back down, afterall, since their newfound wealth, and our newfound Bankruptcy, positions of real power have basically reversed. They are prepared for a ground war if for some idiotic reason we decided to attack, and they have everybit as many operable nukes as we have. Fucking with Russia is a non-starter, the best we can hope for is that we don't lose all credibility and the Ruskies take all their previous possessions back. All you right wing war-mongers are SOL unless you are prepared for war on US soil, yup war is coming home next time.
tipsgnob
New Member
rep for you med...we better be leaving these countries alone until we get back on our feet and rebuild our military and our economy...russia could put 5 million soldiers on the ground tomorrow and we had trouble rounding up 140,000 for Iraq....
Leilani Garden
Well-Known Member
And a rep for you too, Tips!
No, we do not have the necessary number of troops. It is so much like what happened to the Romans . . . . That wall in England? Hadrian's Wall? The Romans had to leave the job undone because they did not have enough troops, even with all their mercenaries.
Hadrian's Wall
How about the comments on Iran made last night?
medicineman
New Member
About Iran, they have well over a million armable troops. Every young man between 15 and 40 would take up arms against an invasion by anyone. they would be especially amped up if the US invaded, seeing that they hate us so. They also have quit a few tanks, artillery units, and helicopter gunships, rocket launchers and basic ground combat devices. It wouldn't be a cakewalk by any stretch of the imagination.
NewGrowth
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You need to look beyond the surface blink. You really think gun laws will prevent criminals from getting guns!!?? Gun laws are a joke and don't protect anyone. The US is the number #1 arms dealer to the rest of the world, not even Russia sells more guns than us.Only a fool would be able to look at inner city streets where school's, parks and residential homes are at such a close proximity ,
and try to claim that gun laws are not in need of reform...
And as for the legalization issue let's see now... The goverment makes money off Marijuana not unlike alcohol, our economy gains a new multi million dollar (ifnotbillion) industry while generally making the world a safer place in the process spawing a bunch of mellow agriculture specialists cheers to rollitup
On the other hand we have elite fatcat arms dealers selling guns made in here in America to 3rd world countries who inturn sell them back to our inner cities when they run out of bullets.
The small fraction of tax money generated in comparison to the revenue Ciggarattes Alchohol and Gambeling is miniscule.
You think the government would make more money off marijuana if it were legal.
Sorry bro but the government is big business and for big business the drug war is profitable. Did you know we jail a larger percentage of our population than ANY country? Did you know in the 1980's the prison industrial complex was privitized? So private companies are profiting off keeping people in jail and building more prisons. Pretty sick huh?
What about the global picture? Coffee is one of the most profitable commodities in the world. It's cheaper to buy coffee from rich plantation owners that basically use "slave" labor than small independent farmers. So we flood the columbian market with wheat, allow narco money to finance para-military groups to put down "insurgents", basically poor farmers who have been forced into the jungle where the only viable crop is coca. It's a win win situation for us we get: Cheap coffee (that starbucks then sells for $3 a cup), We sell arms to the para-military, we force a rich country to become dependent on our agricultural products for food, and we can secretly fund further CIA operations by flying Cocaine into the united states by the ton.
So what does this have to do with pot? Well there are just not enough of a problem to justify all this unless you make marijuana the worlds most widely used illicit drug a "problem".
So now blink I have taken you a few inches down the rabbit hole, care to go any further?
ccodiane
New Member
Michelle Malkin :: Townhall.com :: The ACORN/Obama Voter Registration "Thug Thizzle" 
The ACORN/Obama Voter Registration "Thug Thizzle"
Systemic corruption of our election process continues. Barack Obama and his old friends at ACORN and Project Vote are leading the way. This radical revolution is taking place in your backyard. And as I've reported before, this voter-fraud racket is on your dime.
On Monday, the two liberal groups announced the wrap-up of a 21-state voter registration drive targeting low-income people and minorities in battleground states including Ohio, Pennsylvania, Colorado, Florida, New Mexico and Wisconsin.
What's wrong with that? For starters, these two groups are militant partisan outfits purporting to engage in nonpartisan civic activity. And their campaign comes amid an avalanche of fresh voter-fraud allegations involving ACORN in many of those same key states.
On Tuesday, Nevada state officials raided ACORN's Las Vegas office after election authorities accused the group of submitting multiple voter registrations with fake and duplicate names.
ACORN, which receives 40 percent of its revenues from American taxpayers to pursue an aggressive welfare-state agenda, has already helped register over 1.27 million people nationwide. The rest of their funding comes from left-wing heavyweights like billionaire George Soros and the Democracy Alliance.
Project Vote, a 501(c)(3) organization, was founded by left-wing lawyer Sandy Newman to register voters in welfare offices and unemployment lines with the explicit goal of turning back the Reagan revolution.
The two groups are inextricably linked -- and at their nexus is Barack Obama.
In 1992, Newman hired Obama to lead Project Vote efforts in Illinois. The Illinois drive's motto: "It's a Power Thing."
As previously noted in this column ("The ACORN Obama Knows," June 25, 200
, Obama also trained ACORN members in Chicago. In turn, ACORN volunteers worked on his Illinois campaigns and ACORN's PAC endorsed his primary bid with full backing and muscle.
Despite his adamant denials of any association with the group (his Fight the Smears website now claims "Barack Obama never organized with ACORN"), Obama's political DNA is encoded with the ACORN agenda.
The Obama campaign's "Vote for Change" registration drive, running parallel to ACORN/Project Vote, is an all-out scramble to scrape up every last unregistered voter sympathetic to Obama's big-government vision. "Our volume," Obama campaign manager David Plouffe bragged of the voter-registration program, "will be enormous."
Quantity over quality. It's the ACORN way.
In addition to the Las Vegas raid, fraud allegations keep piling up: Continued...
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The ACORN/Obama Voter Registration "Thug Thizzle"
Systemic corruption of our election process continues. Barack Obama and his old friends at ACORN and Project Vote are leading the way. This radical revolution is taking place in your backyard. And as I've reported before, this voter-fraud racket is on your dime.
On Monday, the two liberal groups announced the wrap-up of a 21-state voter registration drive targeting low-income people and minorities in battleground states including Ohio, Pennsylvania, Colorado, Florida, New Mexico and Wisconsin.
What's wrong with that? For starters, these two groups are militant partisan outfits purporting to engage in nonpartisan civic activity. And their campaign comes amid an avalanche of fresh voter-fraud allegations involving ACORN in many of those same key states.
On Tuesday, Nevada state officials raided ACORN's Las Vegas office after election authorities accused the group of submitting multiple voter registrations with fake and duplicate names.
ACORN, which receives 40 percent of its revenues from American taxpayers to pursue an aggressive welfare-state agenda, has already helped register over 1.27 million people nationwide. The rest of their funding comes from left-wing heavyweights like billionaire George Soros and the Democracy Alliance.
Project Vote, a 501(c)(3) organization, was founded by left-wing lawyer Sandy Newman to register voters in welfare offices and unemployment lines with the explicit goal of turning back the Reagan revolution.
The two groups are inextricably linked -- and at their nexus is Barack Obama.
In 1992, Newman hired Obama to lead Project Vote efforts in Illinois. The Illinois drive's motto: "It's a Power Thing."
As previously noted in this column ("The ACORN Obama Knows," June 25, 200
, Obama also trained ACORN members in Chicago. In turn, ACORN volunteers worked on his Illinois campaigns and ACORN's PAC endorsed his primary bid with full backing and muscle. Despite his adamant denials of any association with the group (his Fight the Smears website now claims "Barack Obama never organized with ACORN"), Obama's political DNA is encoded with the ACORN agenda.
The Obama campaign's "Vote for Change" registration drive, running parallel to ACORN/Project Vote, is an all-out scramble to scrape up every last unregistered voter sympathetic to Obama's big-government vision. "Our volume," Obama campaign manager David Plouffe bragged of the voter-registration program, "will be enormous."
Quantity over quality. It's the ACORN way.
In addition to the Las Vegas raid, fraud allegations keep piling up: Continued...
1 2 | Full Article & Comments
Bongulator
Well-Known Member
Quantity is what wins democratic elections. You don't look at two piles of votes and go, well, that pile there looks fresher. You *count* them. Counting means 'quantity'.
If some ACORN people did bad shit, then the law will deal with them. The goal -- registering the poor to vote -- seems like a good one to me. I don't think the ACORN people are militants though. I have yet to see any of them armed in any way with any weapon. I certainly understand why the RNC doesn't *want* the poor to register to vote -- because they won't vote for the party of rich people. But that's life. I'm sure the RNC has their groups organized to get out the vote with rich people.
Shrug, it's all becoming kinda irrelevant at this point. Obama has, according to Gallup, an 11 point lead in the polls, in October with just one debate left. McCain's goose is just about cooked. They're defending NORTH CAROLINA, for chrissakes. When the RNC has to defend North Carolina, they're in a Real Bad Place.
I believe there are 9 or 10 battleground states now, most of which Obama is leading. How many does Obama need to win to be the next president? One. How many does McCain need to win? ALL OF THEM. The electoral math says this race is over.
If some ACORN people did bad shit, then the law will deal with them. The goal -- registering the poor to vote -- seems like a good one to me. I don't think the ACORN people are militants though. I have yet to see any of them armed in any way with any weapon. I certainly understand why the RNC doesn't *want* the poor to register to vote -- because they won't vote for the party of rich people. But that's life. I'm sure the RNC has their groups organized to get out the vote with rich people.
Shrug, it's all becoming kinda irrelevant at this point. Obama has, according to Gallup, an 11 point lead in the polls, in October with just one debate left. McCain's goose is just about cooked. They're defending NORTH CAROLINA, for chrissakes. When the RNC has to defend North Carolina, they're in a Real Bad Place.
I believe there are 9 or 10 battleground states now, most of which Obama is leading. How many does Obama need to win to be the next president? One. How many does McCain need to win? ALL OF THEM. The electoral math says this race is over.
ccodiane
New Member
Did you know, or, do you care, that 9 out of 10, no wait, 8 out of 10, no, wait, 1 out of 8, women died in labor, a mere 100 years ago. Can you say, "nationalized health care", everyone!
medicineman
New Member
I believe there are 9 or 10 battleground states now, most of which Obama is leading. How many does Obama need to win to be the next president? One. How many does McCain need to win? ALL OF THEM. The electoral math says this race is over.
Don't forget the Diebold type machines, vote flipping at the push of a button. Some of those machines in Ohio in the predominently black neighborhoods voted 100% for Bush, yeah right! When the republicans control the voting machines, McSame may just get elected. If he does, I hope there is riots in the streets. Our only hope is to overpower them with massive democratic turn out, so massive that they could never fool the public by flipping the vote. Vote flippers deserve the death penality, no matter what their political affiliation.
Don't forget the Diebold type machines, vote flipping at the push of a button. Some of those machines in Ohio in the predominently black neighborhoods voted 100% for Bush, yeah right! When the republicans control the voting machines, McSame may just get elected. If he does, I hope there is riots in the streets. Our only hope is to overpower them with massive democratic turn out, so massive that they could never fool the public by flipping the vote. Vote flippers deserve the death penality, no matter what their political affiliation.
medicineman
New Member
How about 1 out of 25 died at a back alley abortion clinic, the coathanger specialists.Did you know, or, do you care, that 9 out of 10, no wait, 8 out of 10, no, wait, 1 out of 8, women died in labor, a mere 100 years ago. Can you say, "nationalized health care", everyone!
ccodiane
New Member
100% for Obama would be readily accepted as common sense, however.......
ccodiane
New Member
Dr. of Hangerology, perhaps. Where does one go to get accredited?
PS- How toxic is that back alley weed you ruffians get in NV?
medicineman
New Member
Pretty much in a black neighborhood I'd think, it may be as low as 99%, but I doubt it.
ccodiane
New Member
As it should be.....that's how thing's trickle down in a post racial society governed by liberal morality.