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CunningCanuk
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It can and is being done in other countries.
Roger A. Shrubber
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i didn't say it couldn't be done, but we have to have a little governmental reform before we can start changing a lot of things. republicans want us to teach kids that black people "worked" for white people, who raised them out of savagery and tried to civilize them...in short, they want to turn schools into white supremacy indoctrination centers, and we have to put a stop to that shit before we can move on with much else
Fogdog
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Yes.
when we have enough votes for something like that in the Senate and the filibuster is done in, we may proceed to the kind of very sensible and do-able thing you suggested.
That's at least two bites of elephant before we can get at the third.
CunningCanuk
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I didn’t mean to imply it would be easy, just something worth working for. I’d like to see our government take a closer look at what Norway and France were able to do regarding this.
The formula is out there.
Fogdog
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Yep, and yet,
We are so far away from the day free college is possible, we have so much else to do and GOP will make political hay from it because too many people in the US oppose the idea.
Our K-12 education system is in tatters and fixing that seems nigh impossible at the moment. So, I'm not laughing or brushing you off, I also agree that it would be a good thing to do, it's just that I feel overwhelmed thinking about it.
Roger A. Shrubber
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i think it might be more than three bites...you have to bring a lot of parents to a realization...a gentle realization, that they know nothing about how to educate their own children. it's obviously true, but if you try to just tell them that, like a normal piece of information, they'll have a very bad reaction to it...any decent teacher will have a lesson plan that moves the kids through stages of information, and each stage readies them for the next...and, there are ways to present information that makes it a lot more palatable, easier to "digest"...and ties the previously loose ends together.
now, we're going to need a campaign that teaches parents how to allow their children to be taught, without interfering....it needs to be presented to them as palatablely as possible, incrementally, over a few years....
and in the mean time, it might be a good idea to start out with teaching kids some very basic principles of equality, couched in a way that doesn't make their parents piss down their legs and scream about CRT....
CunningCanuk
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My original point was simply that a society that invests in the education of its citizens reaps a huge reward. This is an undeniable fact and why I’d like to see Canada make a commitment to free higher education as well.
Educating parents on how to let teachers teach their kids? Why does it have to be so complicated? Providing free higher education wasn’t that complicated for Germany or Denmark.
Maybe it’s an impossible dream for the US. Hopefully not for Canada.
Jimdamick
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Fuck Susan Collins that gullible hag & fuck Maine, the Mississippi of the North.
It's poor as fuck/Red, with like NOTHING going for it.
This is a good example of a Mainer.
I was camping in northern Maine which was nice with the moose all over the place.
They really are if you go deep wood.
Anyway, I'm going home in sort of a convoy with me behind a tractor trailer hauling logs. & 3 cars behind me following.
I'm doing the same fucking speed as everyone else (had to/no choice in the matter) & this fucking cop car passes me going the other way.
You know what that POS did?
He turns on the lights & comes after us, or shall I say, comes after me.
That hillbilly cop whose beat was in the middle of nowhere with like 50 residents pulls me alone over, no one else, for speeding and issues me a ticket for $350.
I wonder if it was because I was out-of-state.
I'm like what the fuck do you mean, I was just following the flow of traffic.
That dumb fuck (6'5"/ shaved head & missing his right incisor) tells me I was going faster than the speed limit & walks away.
That was that, he just drove away
Well, I paid the fucking ticket & I also filed a complaint, but I had to be in court & that was out of the question, so it went nowhere.
So, I don't like Maine or Collins.
Both suck in my book.
CunningCanuk
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Sounds like you were on hwy 9 with all the logging trucks. Maine, where men are men and sheep are nervous.
Roger A. Shrubber
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yes, unfortunately it does have to be so complicated, when at least a third of parents think that the public schools agenda is a socialist front, designed to turn their children against their values...