DKskater75
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hahahahaha. and then hang it up in her office....
yeah so who saw Nailin' Palin lol did they actually make that??
I'm voting for McCain....
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hahahahaha. and then hang it up in her office....
yeah so who saw Nailin' Palin lol did they actually make that??
daveof59
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Hustler - Who's Nailing Paylin? - Send big files the easy way. Files too large for email attachments? No problem!
I don't get the meaning of this thread. Not in a retarded sense just in a sense i can for the life of me understand the thread starters logic. I'm all for BO
anotherchance
New Member
mccain 2012 lolol
bubbleinthebrain
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Gee, sorry to rattle your pretty little christian mind with a couple of naughty words.
anotherchance
New Member
maybe by the next election mccain will have learned not to sing about bombing other countries. what a fucking looser
TheBrutalTruth
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What, you don't think everyone should be treated with a little bit of respect?
anotherchance
New Member
how bout some plain old spect then
bubbleinthebrain
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Sure, respect is nice.... respectful would be if she didn't smear hateful blatant lies about her opponent and if she didn't continually spew those buzzwords that stick in the pliable minds of so many people in this country- she's made of disgusting dirty political tactics that make even lifelong republicans cringe!
That, and she's a genuinely idiotic person from what I've seen and read.
That, and she's a genuinely idiotic person from what I've seen and read.
anotherchance
New Member
maybe the repubs fuckups will teach em something, maybe
bubbleinthebrain
Well-Known Member
They've hardly fucked up as far as campaign tactics go, but there was just hardly any dirt on Obama, and the country's in shambles from the last pub moron, so people were able to see the bigger picture.
I mean, it worked for them in the past two elections, what with the swiftboat bullshit and the flip-flopping accusations... some people DO pick it up those little catchphrases, and some people do vote based on that worthless crap.
I mean, it worked for them in the past two elections, what with the swiftboat bullshit and the flip-flopping accusations... some people DO pick it up those little catchphrases, and some people do vote based on that worthless crap.
naturalhigh
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you guys..ha its not just for 250K and up.. .its for everyone... capital gains go across the board... and hate and bigotry? dam... im not hating anyone... I just dont want to be paying for the homless guy across the to have another beer....either way the next 4 years will decide...good or bad.... but hey..look at the bright side...Now Iran will talk to us.... the UK has been for ten years and that hasnt gotten anywhere...
NorthwestBuds
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Those words come from someone whos's high alright.
Leilani Garden
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Well, I know this was not directed at me, but . . . don't you think EVERYONE should be treated with a little respect? Like, uh, those children born into poverty--those whose mothers did not choose abortion, like so many conservatives advocate would approve of? Shouldn't we have enough sense to realize that if we provide the necessary help to get them out of poverty, we'll all be better off?
You mean like that? Or do you mean it's okay to call me Eva Braun, Goebbels, and liken me to Hitler, but we must all treat/speak of our politicians with the utmost of respect?
For me, calling anyone the c-word is a no-no, but Ms. Palin put herself into the public lime light, and it is she who made remarks that were half-truths, designed to mislead people. So? While I don't approve of anyone calling her the c-word (bubble??? tsk tsk
), Ms. Palin ought to be a big enough gal to know that she would be called all sorts of names, etc. Now, a question for you, Brutal. If you are so concerned about taxes, and from what I gather, it looks like you think all taxes are immoral and illegal, how are we supposed to fund all this stuff that we take for granted? Like highways? Bridges. Oh, a war in the Middle East that is costing us so much. Things like that. How should all that be funded? Should just abandon roads? Schools? Everything? Seriously. I'd like to know what you would advocate instead? Charity? Donations?
Regarding schools, I noticed you were once again griping about the time you spent studying other languages and ridiculing what many people understand is a pragmatic thing, that is, trying to comprehend other cultures . . . . Okay, so how would you have it? We should just go right for only vocational-type schools? And starting when? Kindergarten? Grade one? Two? When would this vocational training, completely bereft of any of the subjects you so detest, begin?
Taxes suck. We all agree on that. But how else are we supposed to do it?
I'm not really looking for any answers, and I'm too worn out from the fighting on this board and elsewhere. Just wanted to stick in my two cents.
Leilani Garden
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I'm kind of torn on the issue of taxing capital gains. I've never been able to make up my mind either way . . . and I voted for Obama.
Regarding these mythological characters you've made up? The two guys on "welfare" who are just buying more beer?
This is for you.
TANF - Welfare Reform
In 1996, Congress passed and President Bill Clinton signed the Personal Responsibility and Work Opportunity and Reconciliation Act of 1996 (PRWORA), ending welfare as we know it. PRWORA ended the federal entitlement to assistance for poor families with children and replaced it with Temporary Assistance for Needy Families (TANF). TANF requires recipients to work in exchange for assistance and seeks to, among many things, reduce caseloads and limit the time during which a person can receive aid. All TANF recipients are limited to five years (60 months) of assistance, required to work at least 20 hours per week, and expected to establish the paternity of their children as well as seek child support from their childrens father. If a family fails to meet requirements, they are denied TANF assistance.
You're only about twelve years late learning of this "newsflash."
Nothing but urban myth, the welfare queen. (Unless you count Walmart, and other corporate entities.O)
DKskater75
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lol you take shit way out of context man that wasnt directed at you at all. i was just saying how people come to forums like this one and say the most racist shit. i was on the raiders blog on ESPN after the game last weekend and the whole conversation shifted from what a shitty game it was too how shitty barack is to how people are going to kill him because hes a muslim terrorist... i mean come on how fucking stupid can people get. apparantly very...
TheBrutalTruth
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Well, I know this was not directed at me, but . . . don't you think EVERYONE should be treated with a little respect? Like, uh, those children born into poverty--those whose mothers did not choose abortion, like so many conservatives advocate would approve of? Shouldn't we have enough sense to realize that if we provide the necessary help to get them out of poverty, we'll all be better off?
You mean like that? Or do you mean it's okay to call me Eva Braun, Goebbels, and liken me to Hitler, but we must all treat/speak of our politicians with the utmost of respect?
For me, calling anyone the c-word is a no-no, but Ms. Palin put herself into the public lime light, and it is she who made remarks that were half-truths, designed to mislead people. So? While I don't approve of anyone calling her the c-word (bubble??? tsk tsk
Now, a question for you, Brutal. If you are so concerned about taxes, and from what I gather, it looks like you think all taxes are immoral and illegal, how are we supposed to fund all this stuff that we take for granted? Like highways? Bridges. Oh, a war in the Middle East that is costing us so much. Things like that. How should all that be funded? Should just abandon roads? Schools? Everything? Seriously. I'd like to know what you would advocate instead? Charity? Donations?
Regarding schools, I noticed you were once again griping about the time you spent studying other languages and ridiculing what many people understand is a pragmatic thing, that is, trying to comprehend other cultures . . . . Okay, so how would you have it? We should just go right for only vocational-type schools? And starting when? Kindergarten? Grade one? Two? When would this vocational training, completely bereft of any of the subjects you so detest, begin?
Taxes suck. We all agree on that. But how else are we supposed to do it?
I'm not really looking for any answers, and I'm too worn out from the fighting on this board and elsewhere. Just wanted to stick in my two cents.
For the thousandth and first time, I was not likening you to Hitler, and it was only after you said that you saw it that way, that I decided to give you what you wanted and likened you to Goebbels and Eva, but if you are too much of a self-centered individual to believe what I said about not likening you to Hitler, then there is no point in me even responding to your posts.
As far as the people that are poor, I didn't make them that way, it is not my fault they are in the condition they are in. I am not holding them back. At any time they want they can get off their asses and move forward. It is not my fault that they repeat the same mistakes over and over and over again.
With all that said, why do you keep on trying to make me pay for other's stupidity?
As far as the country, being better if they were not poor...
How do you propose to ever bring that about, so far the only result of your idiotic ideology is making everyone equally poor.
The poor are still poor, the rich are still getting richer, and the middle class is still getting screwed, because of the good intentions of incompetents and morons who refuse to acknowledge that they are still failing to find some way to actually accomplish their proposed goals, but they are accomplishing their real goals of enslaving everyone perfectly well.
As far as the roads and highways. They are something that the federal government should not have a hand in. I would pay taxes to a state government more gladly than I would pay taxes to the federal government, which is outside the scope and limits placed upon it by the Constitution and therefore is an illegal entity that should not exist.
Leilani Garden
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For the thousandth and first time, I was not likening you to Hitler, and it was only after you said that you saw it that way, that I decided to give you what you wanted and likened you to Goebbels and Eva, but if you are too much of a self-centered individual to believe what I said about not likening you to Hitler, then there is no point in me even responding to your posts.
Whatever. You jumped all over someone for using bad language about Palin, asking does not everyone deserve respect, which is just plain hypocritical, considering the crap you shoveled in my direction. Live by the sword, dle by the sword.
As far as the people that are poor, I didn't make them that way, it is not my fault they are in the condition they are in. I am not holding them back. At any time they want they can get off their asses and move forward. It is not my fault that they repeat the same mistakes over and over and over again.
Are children responsible for their miserable conditions? And others, the parents? At any time, they can get off their asses and what? Just change everything about themselves, their backgrounds, their teeth, appearance? You think it's just so easy. I bet that you are white, come from a nice middle class background, and so on. I bet your teeth look just fine, are not corroded from years of neglect. You're reasonably well spoken and educated.
You are also completely lacking in any way of empathy: the ability to try to imagine what things feel like for others. That's a very dangerous way to go through life. In fact, if you go check out the DSM-IV and look at some of the AXIS TWO disorders . . .. I'll let you figure that one out. Empathy is what allows human beings to be more than just beasts, scraping up every single little bit of meat for themselves and watching others die. It's also how some animal groups die out, as well as human beings. Recall the Ik people I told you about. Empathy is dead with them, and they will probably not survive.
With all that said, why do you keep on trying to make me pay for other's stupidity?
Your use of the word stupidity here reveals you for what you are. You think all poverty is caused by stupidity. Is the color of one's skin and one's parents caused by stupidity?
Who said I want you, personally, to pay for others, anyway? I think a few of us on this thread have been pretty vocal that the spending on utterly nonsensical things could go a long way toward getting those who can be saved out of poverty, so they too are CONTRIBUTING to society.
What is stupid, imo, is that there are so many who refuse to even acknowledge that helping people out of poverty will only enhance the culture as a whole. You like living near poverty? YOu probalby don't, and I know it's hard for someone who lacks empathy, but try to imagine what it might feel like to live near a poverty-stricken area. Imagine the crime. Think you'd enjoy that? Where there is poverty, there are lacking resources, and where you have that, you will have crime. So, the plot thickens: reduce poverty, reduce crime.
You cannot change human nature. Where there is poverty, there will be crime.
You can, however, be part of the solution and that is doing all we can rid ourselves of such a huge underclass, the poverty stricken. It will only HELP all of us.
As far as the country, being better if they were not poor...
See above.
How do you propose to ever bring that about, so far the only result of your idiotic ideology is making everyone equally poor.
One, I'm not an idiot, nor are my thoughts idiotic. You might disagree, but do it RESPECTFULLY, just like you insisted upon regarding Ms. Palin.
Why would this mean that everyone is equally poor? Just how did you arrive at this conclusion. You answer that, and I'll answer you. But for me to answer this question as you've worded it, would only make it appear that I am tacitly condoning your insinuating that I am idiotic and that everyone will be poor if we make more of an effort to rid ourselves of poverty.
One more note--not for Brutal, though.
I do believe that we've got a huge number of people, who due to the gleeful hatred of the last eight years--that fascism--actually like knowing that there are poverty stricken people out there. THey like knowing that someone else has it harder than they do. My gut feeling is that as long as someone else has it rougher and "we" can pile on the recriminations (they're stupid and make the same mistakes over and over again, etc, etc, ad nauseum), "we" can feel so much better about ourselves. IOW, these folks derive happiness and esteem out of knowing how hard life is for others. A very sad state of affairs, indeed.
Whatever. You jumped all over someone for using bad language about Palin, asking does not everyone deserve respect, which is just plain hypocritical, considering the crap you shoveled in my direction. Live by the sword, dle by the sword.
As far as the people that are poor, I didn't make them that way, it is not my fault they are in the condition they are in. I am not holding them back. At any time they want they can get off their asses and move forward. It is not my fault that they repeat the same mistakes over and over and over again.
Are children responsible for their miserable conditions? And others, the parents? At any time, they can get off their asses and what? Just change everything about themselves, their backgrounds, their teeth, appearance? You think it's just so easy. I bet that you are white, come from a nice middle class background, and so on. I bet your teeth look just fine, are not corroded from years of neglect. You're reasonably well spoken and educated.
You are also completely lacking in any way of empathy: the ability to try to imagine what things feel like for others. That's a very dangerous way to go through life. In fact, if you go check out the DSM-IV and look at some of the AXIS TWO disorders . . .. I'll let you figure that one out. Empathy is what allows human beings to be more than just beasts, scraping up every single little bit of meat for themselves and watching others die. It's also how some animal groups die out, as well as human beings. Recall the Ik people I told you about. Empathy is dead with them, and they will probably not survive.
With all that said, why do you keep on trying to make me pay for other's stupidity?
Your use of the word stupidity here reveals you for what you are. You think all poverty is caused by stupidity. Is the color of one's skin and one's parents caused by stupidity?
Who said I want you, personally, to pay for others, anyway? I think a few of us on this thread have been pretty vocal that the spending on utterly nonsensical things could go a long way toward getting those who can be saved out of poverty, so they too are CONTRIBUTING to society.
What is stupid, imo, is that there are so many who refuse to even acknowledge that helping people out of poverty will only enhance the culture as a whole. You like living near poverty? YOu probalby don't, and I know it's hard for someone who lacks empathy, but try to imagine what it might feel like to live near a poverty-stricken area. Imagine the crime. Think you'd enjoy that? Where there is poverty, there are lacking resources, and where you have that, you will have crime. So, the plot thickens: reduce poverty, reduce crime.
You cannot change human nature. Where there is poverty, there will be crime.
You can, however, be part of the solution and that is doing all we can rid ourselves of such a huge underclass, the poverty stricken. It will only HELP all of us.
As far as the country, being better if they were not poor...
See above.
How do you propose to ever bring that about, so far the only result of your idiotic ideology is making everyone equally poor.
One, I'm not an idiot, nor are my thoughts idiotic. You might disagree, but do it RESPECTFULLY, just like you insisted upon regarding Ms. Palin.
Why would this mean that everyone is equally poor? Just how did you arrive at this conclusion. You answer that, and I'll answer you. But for me to answer this question as you've worded it, would only make it appear that I am tacitly condoning your insinuating that I am idiotic and that everyone will be poor if we make more of an effort to rid ourselves of poverty.
One more note--not for Brutal, though.
I do believe that we've got a huge number of people, who due to the gleeful hatred of the last eight years--that fascism--actually like knowing that there are poverty stricken people out there. THey like knowing that someone else has it harder than they do. My gut feeling is that as long as someone else has it rougher and "we" can pile on the recriminations (they're stupid and make the same mistakes over and over again, etc, etc, ad nauseum), "we" can feel so much better about ourselves. IOW, these folks derive happiness and esteem out of knowing how hard life is for others. A very sad state of affairs, indeed.
tipsgnob
New Member
The election of Barack Obama to the presidency of the United States should be a source of pride for all the civil rights workers that followed Martin Luther King’s non-violent struggles to gain equality for all people in our country.
This is surely part of “the dream” that Dr. King and many others had that they were willing to give up their lives for.
All of them, all over the nation, can take pride and feel a great satisfaction that their efforts reached partial fruition with the election of Barack Obama as president of our country and be sure in the fact that they brought it about. The only sad fact is that Dr. King did not live to see it.
The struggle is not over yet but is well on the way, and maybe President Obama’s administration will be a beacon to light the way for a total resolution for 400 years of blindness..........
I wish my father could have lived to see this....
This is surely part of “the dream” that Dr. King and many others had that they were willing to give up their lives for.
All of them, all over the nation, can take pride and feel a great satisfaction that their efforts reached partial fruition with the election of Barack Obama as president of our country and be sure in the fact that they brought it about. The only sad fact is that Dr. King did not live to see it.
The struggle is not over yet but is well on the way, and maybe President Obama’s administration will be a beacon to light the way for a total resolution for 400 years of blindness..........
I wish my father could have lived to see this....
phishhead
Well-Known Member
narcissism prevents one from internalizing any personal attacks,suggestions, or critiques.
leilani if you believe in the dsm than realize it's not his (brutal's) fault. nor anyone elses that your trying to help see the light. it's a mental illness, empathy can't be learned if it can't be internalized.
leilani if you believe in the dsm than realize it's not his (brutal's) fault. nor anyone elses that your trying to help see the light. it's a mental illness, empathy can't be learned if it can't be internalized.
cybergrl23
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Just to throw some more fuel on the fire.. I am poor. Unemployable for the simple fact that I have a mentally ill child that I can't afford to get help for. I have lost jobs because of having to come pick her up from school and it's taken 2 years of fighting to be able to get any help for her at all. I am well educated, well spoken, and broke as hell. I pay taxes, I contribute to society, but now I am hoping that Obama's policies will lead to better funding for special ed so that I have more options.
What does that mean? Taxes. Bottom line, taxes will always be necessary. Taxes and social programs that can help someone like me overcome obstacles in order to raise successful children. I do agree that more taxes should go to the state, not the federal government, the fed should stay the hell away from states like mine and stop WASTING money enforcing laws we decided we don't agree with.
BTW Congrats to Michigan with their Medical MJ law!!
What does that mean? Taxes. Bottom line, taxes will always be necessary. Taxes and social programs that can help someone like me overcome obstacles in order to raise successful children. I do agree that more taxes should go to the state, not the federal government, the fed should stay the hell away from states like mine and stop WASTING money enforcing laws we decided we don't agree with.
BTW Congrats to Michigan with their Medical MJ law!!
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