Increased yields! 2 week flush vs. E flush

hey everyone,
I have been searching everywhere and cannot find a definiitive answer. It seems to me that doing a 2 week flush starves the plant at a critical moment of its life, when it has the potential to pack on the most weight.
Doing an E flush entails cutting the stem at the base of the plant and putting it in water with an airstone. similiar to a rose in a water vase. This method only takes 3 days to flush the plant.
So wouldnt it be better to keep feeding the plant until the E flush? It would pack on more weight not being starved and all. Really want to know whether there iare any differences in final quality and taste of the bud between the two methods? If not, then the E flush approach with its higher yield would be best right.

Do it..... Post lots of pics and detailed results as well. This would be awesome if it worked.

Never seen this specifically done before.

Found this on another site:

"I use a bubbler and keep it in my growroom. This way I can grow all the way without loosing yeild.When the trichs are perfect, then cut and right into the bubbler it goes, for 3 days. Works great! learned it off another site and will never go back to the regular old flushing technic. I havest all my soil grows this way.:farm: Good luck and Grow Safe."

BlazedMonkey said:

Do it..... Post lots of pics and detailed results as well. This would be awesome if it worked.

Never seen this specifically done before.

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Yea im gonna keep using Tiger Bloom and molasses and E flush 3 days before harvest. Its obvious to me that nutes until the end will only increase yield, the real test will come when its finished drying and cured a bit. If there is no bad chemical taste then E flush wins by a longshot.

Very interesting. Im very curious in different ways of flushing/pre curing and how it all works . Tried the drowning method and i didnt like it :/ might try again later. But yah if you do this method post your results. I might try it next time i harvest.

I do 3 day flush with flushing agent. works great! I have never heard about this e flush...im skeptical. Sounds plausible though. Anyone else hear on this or try it?

I had a clone that wasnt taking and it was probably like , 4 weeks in flower. N e way didnt use n e cloning gel on a few, and one of them never took after 10 days so i pulled it out of the rock wool, vaped it and i got kinda high. I'm going to try this method on a nug or 2

ghantron, how hard is it to type any?

haha, its hobbit

Just wanted to let everyone know exactly what I mean by emergency flush. Found on another site:

"Emergency Flushing With a Bubbler".
Now although we all prolly know about this method of flushing,I don't know of any thread that has a pictorial on the process.Well Y'all know Mr.O.,I have brought you the very thing.
Now keep in mind that with this type of flushing,the equipment may be different,but the process is the same.

So what was needed for me,was I PH'ed 4 gal. of water,put that in the bubbler lastnight and plugged the bubbler in.This was to allow the water to be as ariated as possible before the the chop was made.

I had some 10 in. net baskets so I took one and placed a 3/8 in hole in the center most portion of the bottom of the basket.Like this pic.
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Here's one last look at her in her pot.lol
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Here is the newly drilled basket placed in the bubbler and snapped down tight.
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Just a side note for those whom haven't seen my home made bubblers before.I use 4, 5in. stones and a dual output 60-80 gal. pump.I have lots of bubbles..lol.

Ok well heres the part that I'm sure everyone is a bit leery of,"The Chop".lol..I used a pair of very heavy duty cable cutters,that I washed well,and sit in alcohol over night.This step was just to insure I had a clean tool to work with.These cutters are made for cutting "0 Gauge" wire.They go thru battery cables like butter,so I know they would make a nice clean cut.Well is everybody ready? Here we go..
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As I suspected,,went thru Like Butter.lol

Here's a nice shot of a very healthy main stem,and the end result of the "CHOP".
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Now I took the freshly cut-off plant and went right too the basket with as little delay as possible.
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I decided that the water level was too much.I wanted the water level to be just at the point where the Main stem was meeting the basket.So I took a trusty (New) turkey baister and pulled out water to this level.I just didn't want water above the point where the branches were holding the main stem.I have no idea if this was needed,it just made good since too me.lol.Here's the adjusted water level.
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This left about 3 1/2 gallons in the bubbler.Should be plenty.

She now sit's in her bubbler for a few days and she should be happy.
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One last look with the fan back in place,and she is back under the lights.Bye-Bye pretty little girl..lol
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There we have it fellow Skunkers.Now you have a Tutorial on how to "Emergency Flush Using a Bubbler".
Wasn't that easy,and simple?
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I'm getting close to harvest right now with a grow (hydro) I do not intend to flush at all as a test. I gave it it's last feeding today and plan to cut in 8 - 10 days as trichs develop. I think by then the plants will have stopped uptaking on their own, and I'm dubious that anything is leeched from the roots into the water. So it doesn't matter what is in the water or if I flush.

I have smoked quick dried buds harvested like this and they "did" seem to taste different. But I have also smoked buds harvested like this that were fully dried and well cured, and I saw no difference with them.

Bottom line - if I can't see a difference I'll simplify. I'll let you know.

Like this idea. Makes sense. How about this for a twist.. instead of cutting it off... take the root ball out of the pot.. wash all the soil away.. and stick the remnant roots into the bubbler. Idea being you have more pickup area using original roots so as not to potentially 'starve' the plant from water with the cut. Or lessen the shock.

i saw this on a youtube video on how to harvest, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MOGanN1zg3M

i don't understand the point of flushing, never have, never will... what exactly is in the buds that people are trying to "flush" out?? any extra nutes that maybe fed to the plants aren't stored in the buds themselves, but rather in the root system, so there shouldn't be any chemical taste or w/e people say about unflushed bud..
the way plants work is that the nutrients are pulled through and stored in the root system, not in the buds, so i don't see what flushing is going to do for taste honestly, but that's just me...
to get properly burning and tasting weed, one simply needs to dry and cure their bud correctly.. simple as that honestly..

Hydromaster: I know its an old post, but how do you know when it's all done and also how was the taste after doing it after 3 days ? Any crackling, how were the ppms and do you do it this way from now on?

racerboy: the runoff of your soil during a flush has ppms that can be as high as 1200 and the ppms of tap water, here in Colorado that is, is at about 70. You are flushing all the salt buildup and making your buds taste like buds instead of chemicals and nutrients. If you've ever hit a bowl and it tastes like crap but looks great, you probably haven't flushed long enough !

when it has the potential to pack on the most weight

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If your plant is still packing on weight, then it is not time to harvest. Harvesting early will cause all kinds of issues.

racerboy71 said:

i don't understand the point of flushing, never have, never will... what exactly is in the buds that people are trying to "flush" out?? any extra nutes that maybe fed to the plants aren't stored in the buds themselves, but rather in the root system, so there shouldn't be any chemical taste or w/e people say about unflushed bud..
the way plants work is that the nutrients are pulled through and stored in the root system, not in the buds, so i don't see what flushing is going to do for taste honestly, but that's just me...
to get properly burning and tasting weed, one simply needs to dry and cure their bud correctly.. simple as that honestly..

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I think i figured it out and really flushing is a misnomer. What you really are doing is starving the planet of Nitrogen. Thus the chlorophyll dies/breaks down and chlorophyll is one of the key elements in getting the green/grass/boot taste.

My first grow i didnt flush because lots of people said it was a waste but i guess i fed to much then because even with drying and curing my buds never tasted good at all and during the grow they smelled amazing and should have tasted the same.

Thats why ill "flush" and be more careful on how i fed toward the end.

Hydromaster did you ever come to a conclusion on if the Eflush did any good?