Indoor Closet Growth with LED's (Glow Panel 45) Advice Needed! Please look!

Okay, so yes I'm a noob here and in growing.

Here is our set up...

2 GlowPanel 45 LED lights
2 Mad Men Clones
2 Skywalker clones
In 5 gallon buckets with Miracle Gro and Organic Soil Mix
Built containment box (5 x 2) With Drainage Bottom
Hand watered.
Currently on 24/0 lighting for veg start


Pictures:

Set-Up:





Plants:

I will have to upload these in the morning because my labels got cut off in the pictures I have right now so I couldn't tell you what each picture is, but I'll upload them to show the clones.







Remember, labeled pictures to come in the morning.

The LED's are currently hanging about 10 inches above the plants. Ignore the ghetto hangers right now, getting chain as well.

I've read that the LED's are highly effective in the veg state, but aren't powerful enough to flower. Is this true? I intended to use the GlowPanel 45's for the entire crop because I didn't want to be swapping lights.

I've also read and come to the conclusion that, worse case scenario, and the 2 GlowPanel 45's can't handle the flowering, we add some CFL's to the mix.


Please, anyone who has info on these types of set-ups, please give me advice. This is day 3 of the growth.


Please give me any feedback, tips, advice you'd give. I'm new and want to learn anything I can.

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Looking to hang CFL's....Need to know what bulbs.

Please comment.

6500k for veg 2700k for 12/12

You definitely need other main lighting. I have been finding out more and more about the LED lights. If you use CFL- Veg- as close to 6500k most watts as possible- Bloom- 2700k. Get those LED's closer to the plants, on sides of plants, touching. I have a mixture of lighting in my chamber. I started out thinking the LED would be enough and the heat levels would stay down, boy was I wrong! Wasted some good seeds earlier this year fooling around, you really need a VERY high wattage LED to do any good. Now I'm finally getting it worked out, what's best for mine.

Ok. Well this is what the current plan is:

Keep the LED's hovering very close, drop 2 bulbs on this side of each plant. CFL's-100w equivalent. They are the highest our Home Depots come in and we still believe in the LED's just not solely.

Pictures of our bulbs to be set up to come. I bought extension chords (on sale for $1.27 at Home Depot for Christmas Lighting) and then bough 2 Outlet to Sockets for our CFL's to sit in. The way these are plugged in will make them hang horizontally as well which I've determined to be the best, though difficult to get lights to be horizontal.

I think this is the best, & cheapest ($5.44 without bulbs) (These sell for $17 on Amazon, and is only 1 bulb (not included), and doesn't hang horizontally.) light fixture for grow CFL's:
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If you were looking from above the grow box and lights, these hang, with bulbs horizontal and adjustable height via extension chord, 2 to the left of two plants, 2 to the right, repeat for next grouping. That means each light is receiving 2 bulbs of light each with the LED overhead as well.

We are also working in a nutrient regiment to the 2/3 Miracle Grow, 1/3 Organic Garden Soil 5 Gallon Mixes.

Please let me know what you guys think of this solution?

Thanks,
OVO

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I really need these to work...

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Update:

Set up improvements have been made.

Set-up:

2 Madmen Clones
2 Skywalker Clones
2 LED GrowPanel 45 Rectangular Grow Units
8 2700K SoftWhite 23w CFL's
1 Circulation Fan
Clones planted in 5 gallon buckets with a mix of Miracle-Grow and Organic Gardening Soil
5x2 Grow Containment Box
Miracle-Grow Nutrients Regiment
Ice Cube Watering

Picture of Set-Up:



All lights are within 6 Inches of the plant, hanging horizontal for best light dispersion.

Pictures of each clone currently (About 2-3 Weeks from beginning of clone transplants)-

Skywalker 1:



By Far the Best Plant So Far^

Skywalker 2:






Mad Men 1:





Mad Men 2:





This one had some issues with the early lighting issues before additional CFL's came in. It is doing very well now.

Please let me know what you guys think, and any suggestions you may have.

Hi there, I came across this thread because I am thinking of adding some LED's to my setup. I read that your local home depot only carries 100w replacement cfls, so thats 23 actual watts right? You should ask an employee at the home depot near you for the 42 watt cfl, I am sure they will have them as they are pretty standard issue. If not then go to lowes or as a last resort wal-mart. But you are really better off getting some bigger cfls in there. I currently have one plant under 2x55watt 2700K cfls, 4x23w 2700K, and 4x42w 2700k. And I am considering adding an led panel to that.

I have also read that Miricle-gro is not the best option nutrient wise. I have never used it so I cant say from personal experience, but if you read the forums most ppl dont like to use it. If you have a decent local nursery they probably have a soil mix that is inexpensive and better for your plants, you will want to add a lot of perlite (my mix is 40% perlite 60% organic potting soil). The nutrients I use are the fox farm line. I am lucky enough to live near a nursery that sells them. But nutrients are something worth investing some money on. You are what you eat.

Hi there, QK, I'm very interested to know how your plant is doing and the reasoning behind the vast amount of lighting you have added to the single plant...With our 4 plants we have a total of only 14 lighting units (12 100W CFL, 2 LED-45's), and they are doing outstanding. I have added pictures below of each of our plants as well as our set-up as today marks exactly a month in....We are using about 50% Miracle-Gro, 50% Organic Potting Soil and we have also added nutrients to our water regiment via Miracle Gro singles......I'd love some feed back, let me know what you think...

Skywalker 1:





Skywalker 2:





Mad Men 1:





Mad Men 2: (To see how far this plant has come see my earlier post, as this plant is a miracle.)





Set-Up Pics:







This marks just a month of growth, and we feel they are doing incredible... We started with a 24-0 cycle, moved to a 18-6 cycle for 2 1/2 weeks, and are switching to 12-12 to begin flowering on January 13th, as we feel they will be the desired height of 2 feet by then, with a goal of 4 feet for harvest.

Please let us know any questions, comments, ideas.

Thanks.

OVO

Yo i run leds and your first problem is the potting soil your using next time or actually you should transplant now type in hydro store on your computer find the closest one to you and go buy some fox farms ocean forest or something of that quality.Second if your going to use those leds there is now way your going to grow enough thats worth the time and effort with plants that size so i would take as many clones possible off those and grow them in the bigger size dixie cups and stack them really close together and make sog with alot of shorter plants. Trust me ive been getting 1 gram per watt off my sog with leds but mine are 200 watts and up so in short dont go to flower with those lights and waste your time with little fluff go sog u wont regret it.....

jbiz206 said:

Yo i run leds and your first problem is the potting soil your using next time or actually you should transplant now type in hydro store on your computer find the closest one to you and go buy some fox farms ocean forest or something of that quality.Second if your going to use those leds there is now way your going to grow enough thats worth the time and effort with plants that size so i would take as many clones possible off those and grow them in the bigger size dixie cups and stack them really close together and make sog with alot of shorter plants. Trust me ive been getting 1 gram per watt off my sog with leds but mine are 200 watts and up so in short dont go to flower with those lights and waste your time with little fluff go sog u wont regret it.....

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Im not flowering with the LED's, well I am, but also with the 12 CFL's you see in the picture which are 2700K 100W equivalents. Those will be plenty of light.

Lol ok you will learn a 2 month lesson as far as cfl go look at other threads and show me beasty cfl nugs and those "100 watt equivalents" arent for lumens to plants thats light to us so really thats like 100 actual extra watts so plus your 45 watt leds thats 190 watts for 4 plants....... slap yourself if u want LOL!.......

I have to agree with jbiz206.... in flowering stage u need 10,000 lumens per square feet.

zibra said:

I have to agree with jbiz206.... in flowering stage u need 10,000 lumens per square feet.

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So what do you sugguest? More lights?

You could get a 150 hps for 70-100$ and do what your doing or take the clones like i told you a couple post ago and make it a sog trust me man i want to help....

Every Home Depot in my area carries these 68 Watt 2700K (300W equivalent) CFL': (---->CLICK HERE<----), they were kinda hard to find so you might want to ask an employee where they are but I can almost guarantee they carry them, and at $15 there the cheapest 68W cfl's Ive seen at a retail store anyway.

really interesting thread i have been wanting to see some actual results from some LEDs because im considering buying a 190 watt LED panel over a 400w hps only because the leds seem so efficient and dont make much heat not 100% sure yet though