Indoor Closet Growth with LED's (Glow Panel 45) Advice Needed! Please look!
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OctobersVeryOwn
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Alright well you guys all keep talking about HPS, but thats not what this is about. This is LED with CFL mixed in. Im continuing with what I have been doing as it has worked well so far...The lights I have have vegged these like a monster, and starting next week, using the same lights, we will begin a 12/12 cycle to get them to flower....What do you guys think? Im set for some nice buds as I have been refocussing and reangling the CFL bulbs to concentrate light where it needs to be every day. Next time I will do the mylar sheet on the wall with higher power CFL's mixed in (ie: the 68 watt CFL from Home Depot) with our current 12 23 Watt CFLs and 2 LED45 GlowPanel with the correct Fox Farms fertilizer. But other than that I have to say this experimentation for a first time grow has seemed to be successful with this regiment barring nice buds from the 12/12 cycle. Stay tuned and we will see...
I can tell its your first time cant tell u nothing
......If veg was the same as flower we would all grow little grows like yours and have hella buds but obviously it doesnt work like that the problem your not identifying with is the fact that those weak ass bulbs dont have the lumens to supplement the amount the buds needed during flowering especially 4 4foot tall plants but hey do what you do keep us posted with pics so we can see what happens......
......If veg was the same as flower we would all grow little grows like yours and have hella buds but obviously it doesnt work like that the problem your not identifying with is the fact that those weak ass bulbs dont have the lumens to supplement the amount the buds needed during flowering especially 4 4foot tall plants but hey do what you do keep us posted with pics so we can see what happens......Eraserhead
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If you're gonna use the lights you have now, I'd try to better position those CFLs so no light is being wasted.
I've used those same LEDs before, I wouldn't expect much from them, but combined with well placed CFLs, they will finish a plant, and quality will be fine, but will lack a lot in yield.
If I were in your shoes, I'd sell those Grow Panels on ebay, and buy a better light, be it more CFLs, HPS or a quality LED. There's decent lights out there for anyone's budget.
I've used those same LEDs before, I wouldn't expect much from them, but combined with well placed CFLs, they will finish a plant, and quality will be fine, but will lack a lot in yield.
If I were in your shoes, I'd sell those Grow Panels on ebay, and buy a better light, be it more CFLs, HPS or a quality LED. There's decent lights out there for anyone's budget.
OctobersVeryOwn
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My initial issue was I couldn't understand what you were saying, everything was broken English, abbreviations for things a new guy like me has no idea about, and no punctuation. Not hating, just explaining why I wasn't being able to respond to your sugguestions. If I were to throw in some of the above 68 Watt CFL's, would Flowering be easier? I really want these plants to flower well and I want a good decent yield, the bigger the better, but a first timer so I cant really choose what to expect... Im thinking of maybe skipping this last week of 18/6 and move to 12/12 as I do not need the plants any taller...I can tell its your first time cant tell u nothing
Im thinking drop a couple of the 68 watts and then begin flowering, what do you think?
And once again jbiz206, I appreciate all your input and thank you for your time and hope you continue to contribute to this thread.
OctobersVeryOwn
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Would you say dropping some of the 68 Watts would help complete our flowering?
Eraserhead
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I would opt for more smaller CFLs, because fluorescent lights do not have very much usable light beyond a few inches past the bulb, I would use three 23 watters instead one 68 watt. More usable light, and better spread out. And a 12 pack of 23's at Home Depot costs $22, vs. $15 each per 68 watt. Though lumens are irrelevant to plants, as they are a measurement of what humans can see, they do give you an idea of the bulbs intensity. 23 watt CFLs are 69 lumens per watt, vs. 61 lumens per watt from the 68s.
I've grown out crops before with less than what you have, and still did okay. I guess it all really depends how big of a yield you're after.
Just fyi, those Glow Panel 45s show 26 watts on a Kill-a-Watt electric meter. Which means they are not actually 45 watts, but rather 26.
I've grown out crops before with less than what you have, and still did okay. I guess it all really depends how big of a yield you're after.
Just fyi, those Glow Panel 45s show 26 watts on a Kill-a-Watt electric meter. Which means they are not actually 45 watts, but rather 26.
OctobersVeryOwn
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Ah, got it man, thank you. Ive been repositioning these CFL EVERY DAY to ensure they are targeting the plants closely, and at different angles and heights....I really think they will respond great, as the veg has been monstrous through this technique.
hoss12781
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check the journal in my signature man. Plenty of pics of 3w chipset leds rocking it out just as hard as my 2x400w hps lights used to and 1/2 the energy consumption. Those 45 grow panels use about .5w per diode its not enough to grow a proper plant. If you buy a led grow light do yourself a favor and do 5 hours of research before you pull the trigger or you could wind up with an expensive heartbreak.
hoss12781
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What up Gary!
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OctobersVeryOwn
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So I think Im going to switch it to 12/12 today after I run down to Home Depot and Pick up some extra 23 Watt CFLs. We have 12 CFLs in there right now, so how many do you think would be good to add?
Eraserhead
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I'd get that 12 pack for $27, and some splitters, and reflectors.
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OctobersVeryOwn
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How do the clamp reflectors work? Do the bulbs screw into that? and if so, how would i use splitter?
Eraserhead
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The bulbs screw into that y-connector, then that screws into the reflector, which also has a clamp to clip onto whatever, it has an on/off, and a cord/plug.
The y-connector is so you can have 2 bulbs in one socket.
The y-connector is so you can have 2 bulbs in one socket.
OctobersVeryOwn
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Ah okay I didnt know if the Y would fit....Ill go down there and see if I can find those, if not Ill check lowes and shit...I have a lot of options.
OctobersVeryOwn
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This has always had CFL's with the LEDs. Im adding more CFLs now. We currently have 12, and are now adding 6 more. (2 LED45, 18 CFL 23 W 2700K)
Eraserhead
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When LEDs first came out, or shortly after, they had those Glow Panels all over Ebay, I bought 2 in hopes they did as claimed. I grew 2 plants, and ended up adding 4 of the 23 watt CFLs to each plant. I had 118 actual watts over each plant, 236 total watts, and got 2 1/2 ounces. Not a very good yield, but that was 2 1/2 ounces I didn't have to buy from someone else.
I sold my Glow Panels after the 1st grow. Both my current LEDs cost over $600 each and total 559 actual watts.
I sold my Glow Panels after the 1st grow. Both my current LEDs cost over $600 each and total 559 actual watts.
OctobersVeryOwn
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I will probably look to do the same, but switch to a different light, I dont know what yet. Currently with 4 plants, we have the 2 LEDs and 18 23 W CFLs Im confident these will produce flowering.
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