indoor/outdoor differences what should i watch for

hey I'm a new grower and have my first 2 girls started indoors and they're in flower and I have 8 clones to go outside pretty soon. On my grow of the 2 I haven't ran into any problems but it is a real controlled environment. When I move my 8 to the outdoors, what do I have to do different besides not have to worry about lighting

bigger plants

just bigger plants or bigger plants with bigger buds? and do you know if I should put them in 5 gallon buckets or just stick em in the ground?

5 gallons are fine i gto 4 ounces from my 5 gallon bucket grow.

go in the ground if you have the option you wont regret it

from 1 plant?

it real sandy where im gonna put them. should i dig a hole then fill with good soil?

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7 gallon or bigger

well im not gona buy a bunch of buckets i have about a dozen 5 gal already that i can use just wonderin if i should plant in ground or in buckets, and if in ground if i should use soil

Sorry to butt-in but...Your clones will do just fine outside except they will get bigger in all aspects, just feed and water as normal. Personally I just take chicken manure (warning it can used fresh if this is done in Jan./Feb. if not then "seasoned" manure must be used instead), wood ash, bone meal dump in on the ground and work it in with a shovel (say area 3ft dia.) mixed to the depth of the shovel. When finished it will look like a small mound (with added nutrients) smooth it off and lime it real good, then let nature take it course. Come back in a couple of months and plant your seedlings. Works in all kinds of soil, no fuss, no cuss, just grows like hell.

cool thanks, I'll look into finding that stuff. not sure where i would find chicken manure for sale, there isnt alot of farm land around. does horse manure work alright cause I can get a literal shit load of that. like maybe a mix of pottig soil and horse manure?

Yes, (I think I recall something about horse manure is too acid? But it will work once adjusted properly read up on that though) any manure will work, some are better than others. ALWAYS lime good afterwards, do a search for "manure" you will see many info sources for it's use. Also look at Rodale Press they have many good books on organic gardening, they change my entire outlook long ago. Really good shit.
Manures once mixed good and ages some is the best nutrients money can buy, slow releasing in small amounts as the plants want it and NEVER in the ratios that will harm at any stage of growth. This also allows one to add "extra special" nutrients safely, also organic-grown plants are more robust, healthier, and never will have those "nasty-tasting" chemical smoke from overfeeding and/or feeding too late before harvest.
Never have to worry about flushing due to overfeeding. Best of all if you use the same place/spot each year to grow it's gets better each time.

Smooth as silk the way nature intended! Good for the Earth too!

just did a few searches and it said you need to compost it for a few months first but even then it isnt a very good manure to use.. it said it works but it just isnt the best which is ok I'm not growing for money just smoke. I need to get my clones out within the next week or so, so I dont really have alot of time to be composting. But on the other hand i could probly get ahold of some older stuff wouldnt lime increase the acid levels in the soil? And when you grow outdoors how do you know when to water? I've heard every other day, once a week. Is it basically a judgement call?

Yes and no. To get the very best out of it yes, but if you are just going to grow a little weed then just use twice as much as you would for as vegetable plant. Jan. I took a "metal cattle water-trough" full and dumped it into an area the size of a 6ft truck bed, 1 bucket of wood-ash, 1 big handful of bone meal and worked it into the soil and limed it good, this is how I fix a place in the woods each year. If I had a spring as good as last year my plants would be close to 6ft tall now. But it is really better to let it age first in a pile or in the soil or in a compost bin, guess that is why they say if you use the same place every year it gets better.

Get a bag of cow manure from wal-mart to plant your clones, mix it in the soil and plant them. As you go along you can add more and different nutrients to the plants, lime makes the ph normal, helps plants use nutrients in the soil better, breaks down organic matter pretty much a soil conditioner. A plant will tell you when it needs water just by looking at it, if it is wilted somewhat then it is thirsty, but a good rule of thumb is just stick your finger in the soil if it feels damp or cool then it is fine regardless of what someone say all soil is different but they take around a gallon per week on an average some more some less. Best just look at the plants is the best way.

You'll do fine as long as you can grow a flower, it's just as easy, Just give the plants what they want and LEAVE THEM ALONE. Plants need no interference from humans to grow and do alot better if humans don't touch them. (no offense)

yeah i know not to mess with them. what about topping tho?

GreggO said:

yeah i know not to mess with them. what about topping tho?

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Depending on what you're trying to grow? If it's for maxiunm amount of smokable/sellable buds I would wait till it's about 4ft. if given full sun it will give you a pound easy,, but if you're trying to grown maxiunm amount of "colas" I would top it just above the 3rd main branching, this will give you 6 main colas (I'm speaking of right above the 3rd set of "growing" branching of limbs). The shorter topping will give you a shorter plant but it will force main cola growth.

Now with all that said it depends alot on the strain you are growing, 1 example is Mighty Mite, it's main growth is the main cola it produces, Indica grows short and bushy naturally, Sativa lends itself topping pretty easy to keep it shorter than normal and to make it bush out. But all will get bushier if topped but not all need it.

But with your clones you should know how they will do with topping if not then just let them grow some and look at the plant if it seems to grow tall I would top it but it's really a personal choice. But it will tend to make the colas smaller if topped late in season say around 5 or 6 feet.

You want to watch a 13meg flash movie of a "little garden" at 10 weeks old and approx 4ft tall that were topped the week before? <g> I have to send it by private email, I don't think it can be posted?

GreggO said:

just did a few searches and it said you need to compost it for a few months first but even then it isnt a very good manure to use..

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I forgot to mention that another good way to use manures is to make what is called a manure tea, if you know of someone who raises animals just get that manure fill to 1/2 of a 5 gallon bucket fill remaining with water, stir a few times to mix well, wait a couple of days stir the meantime and pour off the liquid save it. Mix 3 part of solution to 1 part water per gallon, pour AROUND the stem not touching it (approx. 1 inch away min.) letting enough to settle the ground as you plant your plants into the ground.
Instant water-soluible organic nutrients.

cool thanks for all the info I appreciate it, I'll have to try that out with the tea. maybe ill try a few different ways as an experiment and see what they like best.

Tea gives the nutrients quicker and safer, just make sure you keep the liquid from touching the stem. I'm not saying it will hurt the plants but you need to get use to it is all. You can get some bone meal (0-10-0) and add some potash and you will be good to go. After some experience you will see how it works and what to add later to improve the soil.
It's just I recommend new growers to use organics first to get use to growing because it is too easy to kill a plant with chemicals. Organics are far more forgiving than chemicals and it grows healthier more robust plants.

Glad to be of help...


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