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fenderburn84

fenderburn84

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Listen, they have threatened to torpedo US ships as well as setting up icbm sites in Venezuela. Those are threats. If that's not asking for a fight nothing is. And they have surpassed the level of enrichment that can be used for medical or energy uses. It sounds like yet again you know nothing of wich you speak.
 
Harrekin

Harrekin

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fenderburn84 said:
Listen, they have threatened to torpedo US ships as well as setting up icbm sites in Venezuela. Those are threats. If that's not asking for a fight nothing is. And they have surpassed the level of enrichment that can be used for medical or energy uses. It sounds like yet again you know nothing of wich you speak.
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They threatened to torpedo US ships if they attempted to breach their potential blockade.

And again, nuclear weapons are useless unless only one side has them. If Iran and Israel went to war, both with nuclear capabilities, the IDF would wipe the floor with the Iranian force because with the principle of Mutually Assured Destruction nukes are unusable.

Sounds like overreacting and using paranoia to justify a fucked up foreign policy.
 
smok3y1

smok3y1

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Well Iran says its for peaceful domestic purposes and I believe them over a government that not long ago said Saddam had WMD and we all know how that turned out.
But what about Israel who ACTUALLY has god knows how many illegal undeclared nuclear weapons. Should we attack them since they bring instability in the middle-east?
 
Harrekin

Harrekin

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smok3y1 said:
Well Iran says its for peaceful domestic purposes and I believe them over a government that not long ago said Saddam had WMD and we all know how that turned out.
But what about Israel who ACTUALLY has god knows how many undeclared nuclear weapons. Should we attack them since they bring instability in the middle-east?
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Arguibly Israel is the cause of the instability there, their neighbours don't seem to cause each other problems very often...I guess it's cause they're "dogs", "monsters" and "anti-Semites" cos they supposedly pick on Israel all the time.
 
smok3y1

smok3y1

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Harrekin said:
Arguibly Israel is the cause of the instability there, their neighbours don't seem to cause each other problems very often...I guess it's cause they're "dogs", "monsters" and "anti-Semites" cos they supposedly pick on Israel all the time.
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Haha I know it must be since Arabs are semites themselves. Damn those anti-Semites.
 
Carne Seca

Carne Seca

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Iran is not an Arab country. Iranians are not Arabs. The Arab population in Irans is around 3%. The biggest ethnic population in Iran is Persian.
 
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heyYousGuys

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Harrekin said:
Arguibly Israel is the cause of the instability there, their neighbours don't seem to cause each other problems very often...I guess it's cause they're "dogs", "monsters" and "anti-Semites" cos they supposedly pick on Israel all the time.
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That's not true at all. Not even close. Examples: The Durand Line border between Pakistan and Afghanistan, also the fact that Pakistan aids the Taliban and it pisses off the Afghanistan government, Kurdish seperatists and Turkey, NUMEROUS factions within most Middle Eastern countries that were there long before Americans invaded the land. The Saudis have always had one eye open to the Iranians.
And let us not forget the extreme bad blood between India and Pakistan. These are just a few. I will concede that the U.S. has not helped the situation, but we sure as fuck did not cause it. There has been instability in the Mid East for centuries.

Israel just wants to survive in a world where Christians and Jews are being slaughtered. I have no sympathy for the Palestinians, THE JEWS ESTABLISHED THAT LAND 2000 YEARS BEFORE THEM. Yet all these democrats and apologists in the House of White still side with the Palestinians.
 
fenderburn84

fenderburn84

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Heyyousguys its a lost fight. Some are ignorant. It's best to let them live in their little fantasy world. As for a threat I do belive Iran has had a war with Iraq, but facts don't matter, because Israel is the worlds bad guy to these guys. Always will be, you'll learn that if you listen long enough to these two.
 
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fslashthroat

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heyYousGuys said:
That's not true at all. Not even close. Examples: The Durand Line border between Pakistan and Afghanistan, also the fact that Pakistan aids the Taliban and it pisses off the Afghanistan government, Kurdish seperatists and Turkey, NUMEROUS factions within most Middle Eastern countries that were there long before Americans invaded the land. The Saudis have always had one eye open to the Iranians.
And let us not forget the extreme bad blood between India and Pakistan. These are just a few. I will concede that the U.S. has not helped the situation, but we sure as fuck did not cause it. There has been instability in the Mid East for centuries.

Israel just wants to survive in a world where Christians and Jews are being slaughtered. I have no sympathy for the Palestinians, THE JEWS ESTABLISHED THAT LAND 2000 YEARS BEFORE THEM. Yet all these democrats and apologists in the House of White still side with the Palestinians.
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how can a nomadic race claim any land? historically probably the biggest instigators of conflict after the christians
 
fenderburn84

fenderburn84

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As for Iran, with their threat of setting up icbm sites and their lust for nukes any sane person can see where this is going. I don't think some realize that once a country has nukes its impossible to take it away. That kind of power brings a big threat with it. And let's not even mention the non-proliferation treaty Iran signed and are now in breach of hmm....
 
smok3y1

smok3y1

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fenderburn84 said:
Heyyousguys its a lost fight. Some are ignorant. It's best to let them live in their little fantasy world. As for a threat I do belive Iran has had a war with Iraq, but facts don't matter, because Israel is the worlds bad guy to these guys. Always will be, you'll learn that if you listen long enough to these two.
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War with Iraq? you mean when Iraq invaded Iran and they fought in self-defense.
 
smok3y1

smok3y1

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fenderburn84 said:
As for Iran, with their threat of setting up icbm sites and their lust for nukes any sane person can see where this is going. I don't think some realize that once a country has nukes its impossible to take it away. That kind of power brings a big threat with it. And let's not even mention the non-proliferation treaty Iran signed and are now in breach of hmm....
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What about Israel's nukes they are not signed by any treaty, illegal and undeclared.
 
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fslashthroat

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once a countries got nukes there's no way back. hence why the USA had such a hard on during the Cuban missile crisis and the doomsday clock went 2 minutes to midnight, if Russia had armed Cuba Russia would have been able to obliterate America. The same could be said about Iran, Saudi and Pakistan your countries been kicking a hornets nest for years in the middle east and I could honestly see a WW3 type scenario if Arab nations get nuclear arms. At the moment they hold no bargaining power without oil, which will be depleted in 25 years anyway, that's why they are gunning for nukes with dirty oil money. just my 2 cents.
 
fenderburn84

fenderburn84

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After years of border disputes and Iran rallying the one group of Islam they have (i can't remember the name and spellcheck just gives me shit, so as to not be disrespectful ill stay at that) also didn't Iran storm the US embassy? Aren't they also the well documented leaders of hezbohlla yep.
 
shrigpiece

shrigpiece

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fslashthroat said:
once a countries got nukes there's no way back. hence why the USA had such a hard on during the Cuban missile crisis and the doomsday clock went 2 minutes to midnight, if Russia had armed Cuba Russia would have been able to obliterate America. The same could be said about Iran, Saudi and Pakistan your countries been kicking a hornets nest for years in the middle east and I could honestly see a WW3 type scenario if Arab nations get nuclear arms. At the moment they hold no bargaining power without oil, which will be depleted in 25 years anyway, that's why they are gunning for nukes with dirty oil money. just my 2 cents.
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I always thought the usa used NUKES to BULLY to middle east out off OIL
 
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fslashthroat

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Plus those fuckers are so unified its unreal, for example UK is a christian county but less than 5% of the population goes to church even on Christmas day, whereas Islam is a brotherhood where all will help each other out, when osama declared Jihad on USA and allies thousands of American and British Muslims went abroad to fight. Not to mention the Saudi 9/11 connection and Pakistan arming the insurgency in Afganistan
 
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