Is a reversal of Roe v Wade decision next?

Fogdog

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I'm with Cunning. This is not an alarmist thread.
Other states are now following suit. Developing laws in like manor.
This law is not just aimed at Texans. The law empowers anyone in AND out of Texas to file suit against anyone who provides aid for the procedure.
There is a possibility that the law could be used to sue doctors outside of Texas who perform abortions on women from Texas. Law professors feel this won't work but the mess it will create.
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DOJ to ask Supreme Court to block Texas abortion law
“The Justice Department intends to ask the Supreme Court to vacate the Fifth Circuit’s stay of the preliminary injunction against Texas Senate Bill 8,” Anthony Coley, a spokesman for the department, said in an emailed statement Friday.

A three-judge panel for the Fifth Circuit Court of Appeals ruled 2-1 late Thursday night in favor of keeping the law known as S.B. 8 in effect, overruling a trial judge's injunction that blocked the ban on abortions after six weeks of pregnancy.

The move will once again present the Supreme Court with the question of whether to suspend S.B. 8, which has shut down many of the state's abortion providers over fears of legal liability.

The high court will hear in December another case over a Mississippi abortion restriction that is directly challenging the landmark 1973 decision in Roe v. Wade, which established a constitutional right to abortions.
 

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Mississippi Gov. Reeves: Roe v. Wade 'Wrongly Decided' Abortion Rights
Mississippi Gov. Tate Reeves, just days before the Supreme Court is to hear oral arguments on his state's law banning all abortions after 15 weeks of pregnancy, said Sunday he believes the Roe v. Wade case was "wrongly decided" and that there is nothing in the Constitution that prohibits individual states from limiting access to abortions.

"I think this law can be enacted within a changing confinement of Roe V. Wade, but I also believe Roe v. Wade was wrongly decided," Reeves, a Republican, said on NBC News's "Meet the Press," adding that in a similar reading of the Constitution when Roe was decided in 1973, there was "no fundamental right" there to an abortion.

Reeves further said he believes the 1992 case of Casey v. Planned Parenthood, where the Supreme Court affirmed the Roe decision that states are prohibited from banning most abortions, was "wrongly decided."

"If you look at the Casey ruling, what you find in my opinion is a ruling that was not based upon fundamentals of the Constitution, but a ruling that was determined based upon what the perceived political perception was at that time," said Reeves. "I don't think the judicial branch of government should ever allow politics to play into their decision-making, and I think they did in Casey."

Abortion laws around the country are not uniform, and in some more liberal states are "much more similar to the abortion laws in China and North Korea than they are to Europe or many other countries around the world," Reeves added.
 

Fogdog

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Mississippi Gov. Reeves: Roe v. Wade 'Wrongly Decided' Abortion Rights
Mississippi Gov. Tate Reeves, just days before the Supreme Court is to hear oral arguments on his state's law banning all abortions after 15 weeks of pregnancy, said Sunday he believes the Roe v. Wade case was "wrongly decided" and that there is nothing in the Constitution that prohibits individual states from limiting access to abortions.

"I think this law can be enacted within a changing confinement of Roe V. Wade, but I also believe Roe v. Wade was wrongly decided," Reeves, a Republican, said on NBC News's "Meet the Press," adding that in a similar reading of the Constitution when Roe was decided in 1973, there was "no fundamental right" there to an abortion.

Reeves further said he believes the 1992 case of Casey v. Planned Parenthood, where the Supreme Court affirmed the Roe decision that states are prohibited from banning most abortions, was "wrongly decided."

"If you look at the Casey ruling, what you find in my opinion is a ruling that was not based upon fundamentals of the Constitution, but a ruling that was determined based upon what the perceived political perception was at that time," said Reeves. "I don't think the judicial branch of government should ever allow politics to play into their decision-making, and I think they did in Casey."

Abortion laws around the country are not uniform, and in some more liberal states are "much more similar to the abortion laws in China and North Korea than they are to Europe or many other countries around the world," Reeves added.
Didn't mention right to privacy when making medical decisions. Didn't mention that carrying to term is a medical risk and has long term affects on a woman's life. Didn't mention anything about the state helping a woman pay to feed and care for the baby once its born. Just said what he believes without providing reasons for his belief. Convenient, that.
 

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Didn't mention right to privacy when making medical decisions. Didn't mention that carrying to term is a medical risk and has long term affects on a woman's life. Didn't mention anything about the state helping a woman pay to feed and care for the baby once its born. Just said what he believes without providing reasons for his belief. Convenient, that.
Either way, the case beguins this week. We will see how political the SC is with the Trump directed GOP making waves for 2022.
 

Fogdog

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Either way, the case beguins this week. We will see how political the SC is with the Trump directed GOP making waves for 2022.
I was just bitching at the dense governor's words and not really commenting on the case.

We'll see what happens. I have no idea what that will be. Right now, it feels like one of the old arcade games where winning a round only means more and faster attacks in the next one. GOP is like the aliens in Space Invaders.
 

Don't Bogart

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Mississippi Gov. Reeves: Roe v. Wade 'Wrongly Decided' Abortion Rights
Mississippi Gov. Tate Reeves, just days before the Supreme Court is to hear oral arguments on his state's law banning all abortions after 15 weeks of pregnancy, said Sunday he believes the Roe v. Wade case was "wrongly decided" and that there is nothing in the Constitution that prohibits individual states from limiting access to abortions.

"I think this law can be enacted within a changing confinement of Roe V. Wade, but I also believe Roe v. Wade was wrongly decided," Reeves, a Republican, said on NBC News's "Meet the Press," adding that in a similar reading of the Constitution when Roe was decided in 1973, there was "no fundamental right" there to an abortion.

Reeves further said he believes the 1992 case of Casey v. Planned Parenthood, where the Supreme Court affirmed the Roe decision that states are prohibited from banning most abortions, was "wrongly decided."

"If you look at the Casey ruling, what you find in my opinion is a ruling that was not based upon fundamentals of the Constitution, but a ruling that was determined based upon what the perceived political perception was at that time," said Reeves. "I don't think the judicial branch of government should ever allow politics to play into their decision-making, and I think they did in Casey."

Abortion laws around the country are not uniform, and in some more liberal states are "much more similar to the abortion laws in China and North Korea than they are to Europe or many other countries around the world," Reeves added.
The next step after/if Roe v. Wade gets over turned will be to go after any states that perform abortions on "Their" citizens. Even the nut jobs in TexAss, along with other states, will start suing any state that performs abortions, period. The righteous right is mobilizing for a crusade the likes we haven't seen.
We're heading for civil war.
Correct me if I'm wrong but the Anti-Christ in John's Revelation suffers a wound to the head. This my not be physical but emotional. Dump could been seen as suffering mentally at his loss, (duh). Sad part is that he survives and is then seen as Christ returned. The Kennedy's could be the two witnesses.
Get your bibles out people. Blow off the dust and take a look at the last book.
 

Don't Bogart

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Didn't mention anything about the state helping a woman pay to feed and care for the baby once its born. Just said what he believes without providing reasons for his belief. Convenient, that.
Forced to have the baby is actually punishment for getting pregnant. That's also why Medicare is fractured in those states. Watch the poor whither and die.
True story: I know a woman who worked in a condom factory. She would know where the lots being manufactured were going. Poor regions, Blacks, Latinos. She and others would pin prick the condoms.
I said were you crazy?? You hated them but helped create more?
Now she realizes how stupid she was then but, racist is what racist does.
 

Fogdog

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Forced to have the baby is actually punishment for getting pregnant. That's also why Medicare is fractured in those states. Watch the poor whither and die.
True story: I know a woman who worked in a condom factory. She would know where the lots being manufactured were going. Poor regions, Blacks, Latinos. She and others would pin prick the condoms.
I said were you crazy?? You hated them but helped create more?
Now she realizes how stupid she was then but, racist is what racist does.
I wish I could say I was surprised.
 

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Supreme Court seems poised to consider new limits on right to abortion
A majority of Supreme Court justices appeared poised to consider setting new limits on the right to abortion during oral arguments Wednesday over a Mississippi law that takes direct aim at the landmark 1973 decision in Roe v. Wade.

The Mississippi law at issue, which bans virtually all abortions after 15 weeks of pregnancy, conflicts with the nearly five-decade rule that says states cannot prohibit abortion prior to when a fetus can live outside the womb, known as fetal viability, which occurs around 24 weeks.

But on Wednesday, the court’s conservatives, who constitute a six-member majority on the bench, posed sharp questions about how firmly rooted Roe’s viability standard is in the Constitution.

“If you think that the issue is one of choice, that women should have the choice to terminate their pregnancy, that supposes that there is a point at which they’ve had the fair choice, the opportunity to choice. And why would 15 weeks be an inappropriate line? Viability, it seems to me, doesn't have anything to do with choice. But if it really is an issue about choice, why is 15 weeks not enough time?” Chief Justice John Roberts asked.
 

HGCC

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Sure, you can do what you will with your own body up to the point it impacts others.

Not touching the topic of considering if the unborn is a person.
 

Don't Bogart

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Apparently Andrew Kurella pulled his post or maybe I'm blocking him. Don't know, don't care.
BUT he said, "So you guys are for bodily autonomy?"
Maybe trolling.
Ever see the movie done in Norway about Trolls.
Done like a documentary. Like Blair witch.
Anyway the part of the right to life movement is that they treat G*d as impotent.
IF.. there is judgement, those that perform, partake, promote abortion will be dealt with in the most severe way.
A little eternal cooking shall we say.
But they can't wait for that .......or, shhhh they are afraid of compassionate G*d. Damn!!
But apparently these soldiers of G*d gotta wield their swords of "righteousness" and force the birth of tens of thousands of babies and then turn away and look at these young mothers or deformed children many who won't live past puberty, or exist in abject poverty with disgust.
"Hey before you go, mind leaving a dollar on the curb for this child?"
 

injinji

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. . . . . . . . .Not touching the topic of considering if the unborn is a person.
I heard a lady from FSU law school talking on NPR this morning. She was saying some of the questions hinted at them making a ran at personhood for the unborn. If that is the case, the morning after pills could be on the line too.
 

shimbob

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I heard a lady from FSU law school talking on NPR this morning. She was saying some of the questions hinted at them making a ran at personhood for the unborn. If that is the case, the morning after pills could be on the line too.
Contraceptives, marriage equality (and both between different genders and different colored skin), Brown vs Board of Education, Edwards v. Aguillard, all of it
 
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