Is hydro that much Better than soil? Wanting the big yield in small numbers

str8sativa

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If your a professional weed snob, get a nail and some dabs. Im sure if you walked into a dispensary and started sampling jars you wouldnt b able to tell how it was produced

Bottom line faster growth rates more production from hydro/aero. Just takes some learning.
Also coco taste amazing and inoculates like soil, good for organics, but still a hydro media
how would smoking bho prove anything?

and i guarentee you i can if i smoked it no questions asked
 

m420p

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Good Lord! It all comes down to preference. . . but hell we're all doing it for the love of mary right? So why the need to get into a dick slinging competition? You enjoy the hydro go Hydro! You enjoy soil/organics go soil/organics, but stop with these redundant threads on which is better. . . Happy Growing
We are group of people here right now discussing both, I don't see any dick slinging here, chill.
 

m420p

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2 months of curing is a bit absurd though in my opinion.. most growers for personal use want to smoke thier stash the day it comes down. I know myself 2 month after a harvest there isnt anything left.

i guess you could always do a couple of each that way you get the best of both worlds but the soil plants will need more time in veg from what i have heard to achieve the same size as the hydro.
See, some hydro growers grow hydro because they are impatient in the first place, am I right? So do you really think they are going to wait for it to be fully cured? I think not. 2 Months is quite a bit but I said it to prove a point, of course I dip into my stash a week after it goes into jars. who doesn't? I do it more for a taste test and to change it up from what I have cured already. But for the most part I let them cure a full 2 months before they are in my regular rotation. Patience is not overrated...
 

str8sativa

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I mentioned this in a previous post of mine but I believe the biggest problem with hydro growers is they don't let their bud cure long enough, it takes longer than soil IMO, I've smoked my buddies organic soil grown(mixes his own soil using something similar to subcools recipe) picked off the plant and dried in the sun for a day and it was impressive for a 1 day dry, better than my hydro would do as far as taste for a 1 day dry. I cure mine at least 2 months and by then my hydro was far and away better tasting than his, he wanted to trade some for his but I didn't want his and ended up trading for some of a different strain, still wasn't a even trade for him, and he has 10 years on me at least in the growing department. Thats my experience.
your pretty much proving my point here in the flavor department. his bud tasted good after 1 day of drying and sat in the sun, now imagine if it was dried and cured properly for 2 months the flavor would increase ten fold.

if your bud has to cure 2 months for it to taste good how would that be better? to be fair dry yours for one day in the sun and see how it taste.

his bud is probably smoked and sold out in 1 month and delicious. your comparing apples to oranges there at least make the samples equal
 

Samwell Seed Well

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If your a professional weed snob, get a nail and some dabs. Im sure if you walked into a dispensary and started sampling jars you wouldnt b able to tell how it was produced

Bottom line faster growth rates more production from hydro/aero. Just takes some learning.
Also coco taste amazing and inoculates like soil, good for organics, but still a hydro media
stupidest thing i have almost ever heard here, very hazey grapes like

seeing as their are almost no real extraction processors working at a lab level, that comment about dab to tell makes about as much sense and smelling the smoke after exhale to see if its clean


concentrates are a extraction and what comes out has nothing to do with how it was grown other then contaminates, which most people remove with winterization if making real medicine BHO, and not dab oil for stoners , that is almost always not clear, foamy, and airy and full or chlorophyll cause some kid thinks a tube some vector and 2 hours makes oil, or thinks cause it looks like wax it is clean, wax is full of shit you dont want, if not made right, and not many understand organic chemistry basics even

if asked 100% of all BHO makers what Marcapitans are most go mer cappa what

and then its half face palm time
 

doniawon

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stupidest thing i have almost ever heard here, very hazey grapes like

seeing as their are almost no real extraction processors working at a lab level, that comment about dab to tell makes about as much sense and smelling the smoke after exhale to see if its clean


concentrates are a extraction and what comes out has nothing to do with how it was grown other then contaminates, which most people remove with
winterization if making real medicine BHO, and not dab oil for stoners , that is almost always not clear, foamy, and airy and full or chlorophyll cause some kid thinks a tube some vector and 2 hours makes oil

Yea not all dabs are bho.. also I wasent compareing buds to oils.just sayin dabs taste way better than anything else i have smoked..
 

str8sativa

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Well it depends on which harvest, look in my journal, that was the harvest of my first ever indoor hydro grow. Almost a pound and a half off of 2 monster NL plants and I had nute burn and harvested early. Had 16 mason Jars that weighed on avg. 30-32 grams, and 5 or 6 jars that were half the size, but never weighed them. Guarantee you can't touch that with two plants in organics with under a month veg., 1000 watt HPS, nute burn, and harvesting early with a bloom of about 7-8 weeks. Wish I would have let them go longer and fill out more but I had too many dead fan leaves from nute burn. Wasn't the best stuff I've grown but definitely the most...

ok so your biggest yield was off plants that were nute burned. of course if they were jammed full of nutes they would have the biggest yield, but i assume tasted not so great seeing as you said it wasnt your best stuff correct?

synthetic nutes dont have to be broken down by the plant it just uptakes them and boom big buds instant uptake by the plant.

just like steroids you get big mussles fast but at what cost? your buds are huge but its not natural plant sugars there full of its synthetic chemicals.
 

RetiredMatthebrute

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Good Lord! It all comes down to preference. . . but hell we're all doing it for the love of mary right? So why the need to get into a dick slinging competition? You enjoy the hydro go Hydro! You enjoy soil/organics go soil/organics, but stop with these redundant threads on which is better. . . Happy Growing
didnt even realize anyone was bitching. was just trying to help the OP understand the differences in the 2 methods.
 

hotrodharley

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Thx a lot for all the positive feed back hydro is the way I'm going to go. Never done hydro but I'm not a newb to studying and willing to research as much time as needed before I begin my set up.
I have friends who run soil systems and get great results, I on the other hand believe I can do better and have the time and dedication to make it a successful, plus how could I not with all your guys help when issues arise.
Then congrats on being sensible and having the guts to jump. Go here and begin learning. PM with questions. Also look up Krondizzel and Superstoner1 on here. Both really are experts (I'm not new to growing in the least but less than a year on hydro) and both are very helpful and not demeaning.

https://www.rollitup.org/dwc-bubbleponics/
 

Samwell Seed Well

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Yea not all dabs are bho.. also I wasent compareing buds to oils.just sayin dabs taste way better than anything else i have smoked..
your comparing how they are grown to taste, extractions are polar . . they dont extract methods of growing, and it is impossible to tell based on terp profiles either

come on
 

doniawon

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and i guarentee you i can if i smoked it no questions asked[/QUOTE]

Your not that gifted. Your full of shit
 

str8sativa

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go and read the ingredients of your synthetics i grabbed a bottle out of my shed for example .

mono and diammonium phosphate, potassium nitrate, DI potassium phosphate, copper EDTA, Fe EDTA , Magnesium EDTA, Manganese EDTA, Ammonium Molybdate, Zinc EDTA, Boric acid, Molybedum.

my point here is most people who smoke weed is because they want something natural ( from a medical viewpoint ) they dont want man made pills or man made drugs.

so why would you want man made chemicals in something that is supposed to be natural?
 

m420p

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ok so your biggest yield was off plants that were nute burned. of course if they were jammed full of nutes they would have the biggest yield, but i assume tasted not so great seeing as you said it wasnt your best stuff correct?

synthetic nutes dont have to be broken down by the plant it just uptakes them and boom big buds instant uptake by the plant.

just like steroids you get big mussles fast but at what cost? your buds are huge but its not natural plant sugars there full of its synthetic chemicals.
lol, ok now your being irrational and trying to measure dicks here. Comparing steroids to hydroponic nutrients is... ridiculous. You are VERY uninformed, nutrients whether "chemical" or "Organic" are not stored in the buds or leaves, they are stored in the roots, it's plant biology, look it up. Fact of the matter is what is even the definition of Organics? I guarentee 99 % of the "Organic" grows out there don't even follow who evers definition you come up with one way or another. Water is not organic...

I burned my plants a week before I chopped them, that didn't not magically make them grow bigger and if it did anything at all it made them not grow as large.

It seems you are just trying to come up with anything you can to bash hydro. I thought we were discussing this but it appears it has become a pissing contest and I don't do that. Good luck to ya...
 
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