Is hydro that much Better than soil? Wanting the big yield in small numbers

doniawon

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6weeks bloom today. Started as 12to15 inch plants.. one week veg

Ill get 1gpw . 10 plants 1000 watt mag hps.. way bigger and faster than my results with dirt.
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Samwell Seed Well

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well if know what your doing, hydro is set it and forget it

your choice in difficurty is no correlation to how much better of achoice it is

it is simply a choice, and the learning curve is much harder to get what you are after

my first coco harvest, i got almsot a gram a watt on bottle nutrients(canna) feeding chart

"I find myself babysitting my plants in hydro. Growing in hydro has been a part-time job for me"

"hydro is mainly for poeple who dont want to be in their garden constantly and that it"

lol, in other words, take a lot of what you've read here with a grain of salt i guess...

yes and no . . ., if you do it right it like baking you mix set and then bake

but if you are doing it wrong you got about hour to 6 hours for it to show and screw you over, hydro is def harder then most if nto all other styles(im sure their are some harder but i cant think of any)

the same thing that makes hydro great make sit problem matic, everything happens fast, and if you are not dialed in and not their to see it, your screwed,

the best thing for you plants is always your shadow, but baby sitting doesnt fit into that to me
 

Rancho Cucamonga

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I've heard that as long as you don't mess up with the nutrients hydro out performs soil by quite a bit.
My goal is to grow 4-5 monsters indoors under 2 1000watters bigger the better but plant count kept low.
I've begun my reaserch on strains but would take any and all advice on getting the best strain to get the largest yield
As for yielding strains like other says, Big Bud is good. I have 10 in flower now and the Northern Lights x Big Bud has the largest buds so far at day 37 of flower(from first signs of white pitils) not 12/12 switch.
I had 8 oz+ yields in 5 gallon pots with Sweet Black Angel, WaiKiKi Queen and Great White Shark.
 

str8sativa

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agreed

the writing is on that wall . .so to speak . . . . .. but what to we know, well some of us, we have only been doing this forever and have done both Soil, SS, hydro, DWC, ebb n flow, coco, peat . . .and the list goes on

i think it makes very little sense to plan to grow cash crops when a crop hasnt even been finished with expertise, or precision . . and i do assume this, but its safe assumption since your here asking questions to Rollitup
i was trying to get him to question his methods. im sure of mine. trying to sound like less of an asshole opposed to saying natural organic or whatever you want to call it has superior flavor end of story thats just the way it is.

hydro tatse = shit
 

doniawon

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Hydro taste great. Especially when you flush properly.
Haters gonna hate lol. You were just doing it wrong . Try again, for your sake.
 

Spittn4cash

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"I find myself babysitting my plants in hydro. Growing in hydro has been a part-time job for me"

"hydro is mainly for poeple who dont want to be in their garden constantly and that it"

lol, in other words, take a lot of what you've read here with a grain of salt i guess...
"hydro is mainly for poeple who dont want to be in their garden constantly and that it"

LOL, I can't believe he said that..that's a bunch of bullsh*t.

But then again he's growing in coco, which isn't really hydro it's just a soil-less medium (pseudo-hydro).

Hydro requires waaay more daily maintenance than soil..

In hydro you have to measure pH, ppm, reservoir temp, room temp, room humidity, grow nutes, micro nutes, bloom nutes, floralicious plus, cal/mag, aquashield, and hygrozyme, h2o2. Then you have to change the res once per week, sterilize everything in bleach water, and wipe down the grow area.

In soil you have to measure pH, room temp, room humidity, and make sure there aren't any bugs... Thats it!

Hydro is way more time consuming, hands down.
 

doniawon

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I can show weeks one to 6 if anyone give a shit. Prolly not lol im over it.sativas livin in a fantasy
 

doniawon

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"hydro is mainly for poeple who dont want to be in their garden constantly and that it"

LOL, I can't believe he said that..that's a bunch of bullsh*t.

But then again he's growing in coco, which isn't really hydro it's just a soil-less medium (pseudo-hydro).

Hydro requires waaay more daily maintenance than soil..

In hydro you have to measure pH, ppm, reservoir temp, room temp, room humidity, grow nutes, micro nutes, bloom nutes, floralicious plus, cal/mag, aquashield, and hygrozyme, h2o2. Then you have to change the res once per week, sterilize everything in bleach water, and wipe down the grow area.

In soil you have to measure pH, room temp, room humidity, and make sure there aren't any bugs... Thats it!

Hydro is way more time consuming, hands down.
Passive not pseudo. Snd hydro is less work. Systems depending
 

Samwell Seed Well

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"hydro is mainly for poeple who dont want to be in their garden constantly and that it"

LOL, I can't believe he said that..that's a bunch of bullsh*t.

But then again he's growing in coco, which isn't really hydro it's just a soil-less medium (pseudo-hydro).

Hydro requires waaay more daily maintenance than soil..

In hydro you have to measure pH, ppm, reservoir temp, room temp, room humidity, grow nutes, micro nutes, bloom nutes, floralicious plus, cal/mag, aquashield, and hygrozyme, h2o2. Then you have to change the res once per week, sterilize everything in bleach water, and wipe down the grow area.

In soil you have to measure pH, room temp, room humidity, and make sure there aren't any bugs... Thats it!

Hydro is way more time consuming, hands down.


so two inert mediums . .what makes them different, on how the roots adsorb nutrients .. . .can you explain?

when i ran hydro, i just mixed my rex, waited for pH to stabilize and re check and done for a week, what exactly oare you doing in your room all day,

my plants start out 14-18 inches tall , after a two week veg,with little leaves and grow to 3-4 feet . . . . all by themselves all i do is change the rez, and do a small amount of training and support

and thats what dialed in is

your personality of OCD doesnt make the situation or reality different

oh and in coco , i mix and water, i transfer twice veg for 3-6 weeks, train and top and stake for support . .i dont measure PH,medium stabilized it, my room temps are dialed in and dont change . . . . . . . .im not sure what novice set up you think i have but i work smart not hard

when you grow constantly you know your PPMS by the ratios you use,

if you are dialed in, hydro is a rez change and the mix you use every time that turns out the same every time is all you need to do

i guess the difference between our views in experience ive done this before successfully, not just what worked
 

Spittn4cash

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Passive not pseudo. Snd hydro is less work. Systems depending
*Systems depending* are the key words..

if he had an active hydro system then he would understand why it's like babysitting. I went with an active system because I wanted everything to be automatic, but it turned out to be more babysitting than automatic.

I guess deciding between active & passive would be a good starting point for a n00b...but there is sooo much bad information out there about active and passive systems, one has to be careful.

Yeah, it IS like "baking a cake"...if you lived in Iraq, and the nearest grocery store was 100 miles away. :roll:
 

Samwell Seed Well

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*Systems depending* are the key words..

if he had an active hydro system then he would understand why it's like babysitting. I went with an active system because I wanted everything to be automatic, but it turned out to be more babysitting than automatic.

I guess deciding between active & passive would be a good starting point for a n00b...but there is sooo much bad information out there about active and passive systems, one has to be careful.

Yeah, it IS like "baking a cake"...if you lived in Iraq, and the nearest grocery store was 100 miles away. :roll:


you mix and set, if your baby sitting your doing it wrong . .im sorry you cant understand that

but when you are at that level you will understand, ignoring it is a possibility is just foolish and only makes you look stubborn

our DWC was def harder them the ebb and flow, but once you understand why things are happening

you can correct the imbalance

do you really thing that the pros have the issue you have? and still gro wthat way

i mean come on, KISS
 

str8sativa

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ok doniawon as promised these are from my attachments i have a whole other file on my comp ill start goin threw to
 

doniawon

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*Systems depending* are the key words..

if he had an active hydro system then he would understand why it's like babysitting. I went with an active system because I wanted everything to be automatic, but it turned out to be more babysitting than .

I only clean my trays after I harvest. My res self tops off with a flosy valve and I use lucas formula and h2o2.. powder kb to finish. Super fuckin eady. I hardly check ph cause it doesnt move and I add s trellis for support and lst.. easy breezy. I can go 3 days between check ups and I run 6 tables. When I use coco or dirt I had to wster drain to waste. What a pain in the nuts.

Coco can be recirc but doedt dry fadt enough for my taste
 

doniawon

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ok doniawon as promised these are from my attachments i have a whole other file on my comp ill start goin threw to
How long do u veg? What type of lights. I need some deets. Im only looking for growth rates as per the thread topic
 

str8sativa

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How long do u veg? What type of lights. I need some deets. Im only looking for growth rates as per the thread topic


4 1ks .5 grams per watt usually 4 week veg but depends i throw them in with less or more dpends when the flower room is cleaned up from last grow. mostly closeups as thats how you can see the quality. the only thing i say is better in soil is the taste not growth rate yield or anything else

i grow for flavor first everything else comes 2nd
 
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