Is it nutrient burn or a nutrient deficiency?

GrownUp420

GrownUp420

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Can anyone identify this? I'm not sure if it's a nutrient deficiency or nutrient burn.
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I read many different deficiency guides such as and including the one posted. Its a bubbleponics system with top feed. Im more confused as to what the problem could be as the symptoms look similar to many deficiencies. I keep th ph between 5.5 and 6.5 and let it fluctuate before adjusting to avoid overcorrection. Here are some more photos the as symptoms have moved to healthy leaves now and this shit is discouraging as fuck. Here are some more recent photos. As of now i just flushed the whole sytem out to clean out anything. Now I'm going to start feeding at a much reduced rate to prevent anymore damage.
 

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Try 5.8 with a drift to 6.2 and then back. 1/4 strength on the Nutes. They don't look out of control. What are your solution temps?
 

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Jypsy Dog said:
If your roots are swimming, cut the drip.
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My roots are def swimming now. I have been running the drip for now just to kinda flush out my entire rootzone. I'll def take your advice on the ph and allow for the swing.my solution temps stay between 62 and 66. I'm using the Fox Farm trio right now. I've been letting it flush for a little while with no nutes and I will be adding 1/4 strength nutes for sure.
 
You don't mention your PPM/EC. If you track it,( you really should) this chart tells you what's going on in your tank. Helps "Dial" in your Nute Mix.
 

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Sorry for the delayed response
Jypsy Dog said:
You don't mention your PPM/EC. If you track it,( you really should) this chart tells you what's going on in your tank. Helps "Dial" in your Nute Mix.
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That's an awesome chart with some damn good info J Dog. I have some issues regarding ph and ec. I dont have a filter yet but my tapwater that i use comes out at approximately 200ppm "haven't tried converting it to ec since I thought they were 2 and the same". After my flush I used 1/4 strength nutes and stopped any and all foliar sprays. I think I was doing it way too much and it also helped cause the burn you see. My ppm now after flush and 1/4 nutes is right at 450. But I also have to take into account the hard water from the tap I use. And sorry for missing it but it's 2 strains actually. Ak47 and Purple Kush.
 
I have read I shouldn't or might not need cal-mag with tap water because of the dissolved solids in it already. However I ordered some AN Sensi-Cal as well as some AN Rhino Skin. Will these help or am.I just doing too much at too fast? Also, can I mix these Advanced Nutrients products with the Fox Farm trio and Kelp supplement or will I have negative effects doing so?
 
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I have read I shouldn't or might not need cal-mag with tap water because of the dissolved solids in it already. However I ordered some AN Sensi-Cal as well as some AN Rhino Skin. Will these help or am.I just doing too much at too fast? Also, can I mix these Advanced Nutrients products with the Fox Farm trio and Kelp supplement or will I have negative effects doing so?
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Skip the Calcium. The Silica really helps. With Silica, mix it FIRST! It tends to "Clump" when you mix later. 200ppm is Great compared to mine. AZ water=580ppm. Skipping all the extra sprays and such is the way to go. Happy Roots = Happy Buds. I have a conversion chart for PPM/EC. Good to have just Because.... Listen to them and your going to be fine. Too Much Love Kills.
 

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Jypsy Dog said:
Skip the Calcium. The Silica really helps. With Silica, mix it FIRST! It tends to "Clump" when you mix later. 200ppm is Great compared to mine. AZ water=580ppm. Skipping all the extra sprays and such is the way to go. Happy Roots = Happy Buds. I have a conversion chart for PPM/EC. Good to have just Because.... Listen to them and your going to be fine. Too Much Love Kills.
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Wow and I thought I had hard water lol. Your advice is invaluable like thanks again man. I'll def be keeping posted with some new pics to let you know how it goes. Now that I've done some research Silica seems like a great supplement for a new grower like myself to invest in to help protect against some minor noob mistakes.
 
Biggest Tip you can get. What ever the bottle/package says, Start with half. I'm in the middle of my First total Organic Grow.. It's reminding me what learning a new skill is all about. Been DWC/ Coco Hydro for 15 years. Hydro is by far the more forgiving and fastest to recover. Good Luck. Your on the right path.
 
So a day later my TDS level went up approximately 100ppm. The PH also swung way high to 6.5. Couldn't tell if the water level had changed noticeably. Based on the chart J Dog gave me that would lead me to beleive my plants are leaching excess nutrients.
 
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