Is it worth $50 to you?

Would you donate $50 to a legalization effort that might actually work?

  • Yes

    Votes: 232 81.1%
  • No

    Votes: 54 18.9%

  • Total voters
    286
  • Poll closed .

Tryingtomastrkush

Well-Known Member
maybe people would actually think about spending 50 dollars if you broke it down specifically what your plans were and how you would go about it with your "adman".
I don't think you guys are getting this guys point......He is asking trying to gather information on whether or not people would spend 50 dollars for a well thought out plan and the legalization of marijuana.

My answer is yes if someone presented a legitimate plan I would gladly give 50 dollars for the cause

But I really don't think this guys asking you to give him money
 

RetiredToker76

Well-Known Member
i don't think you guys are getting this guys point......he is asking trying to gather information on whether or not people would spend 50 dollars for a well thought out plan and the legalization of marijuana.

My answer is yes if someone presented a legitimate plan i would gladly give 50 dollars for the cause

but i really don't think this guys asking you to give him money
exactly!!!
 

BCtrippin

Well-Known Member
exactly!!!

If you put a plan forward that seems like it actually might work I am willing to say most people will Gladly donate to the cause.

For a well laid out plan I would donate $500. I think its a great idea, And if you really are as committed to making it happen as you say then more power to you!!

I'll throw in my support for the cause as skeptical as I am. But its going to take one Hell of a plan to rally up enough support to make a difference.

Your not the first person to advocate legalizing of marijuana, it would take nothing short of a Revolution to make this happen.

I am looking forward to hearing some updates!


:peace:
 

BCtrippin

Well-Known Member
You should contact all the major Facebook groups and see if they will run polls too.

Theres literally hundreds of thousand of people that join Facebook groups dedicated to Legalize Marijuana.


:peace:
 

RetiredToker76

Well-Known Member
If you put a plan forward that seems like it actually might work I am willing to say most people will Gladly donate to the cause.

For a well laid out plan I would donate $500. I think its a great idea, And if you really are as committed to making it happen as you say then more power to you!!

I'll throw in my support for the cause as skeptical as I am. But its going to take one Hell of a plan to rally up enough support to make a difference.

Your not the first person to advocate legalizing of marijuana, it would take nothing short of a Revolution to make this happen.

I am looking forward to hearing some updates!


:peace:
I agree 110%

Let's see what's failed...

Letter writing. Paper and Email FAILED
State Legalization FAILED (Cali, Oregon)
Sit In's FAILED
Love In's FAILED
Burning Man (only partially dedicated) FAILED
NORML - Best effort so far but not working 100%

What I'm thinking is a singular event, that will be so drastic that every major media outlet will cover it. Supported by multiple unified groups that aren't necessarily related. So far I've presented it to my adman (comic producer, movie producer, and marketing guru) and he was so stunned he couldn't breath. My wife who just got giggly with excitement over it's potential and she promptly called her mom :wall: who stopped and said 'Whoa, that might just work.' My botanist stopped long enough to put down his pipe which to my knowledge hasn't happened since he was 20.

The funny thing is that I don't want ANYONE to donate any more than is required to send the message, which will be somewhere between $25 and $50. I don't want anyone to donate $500 or $5000 because that would actually devalue the project.

With the media I'm expecting my adman to come up with because of the sheer originality of the idea any politician who doesn't recognize our rights will immediately be seen as anti-american.

If this works it will make all the million (whatever) marches look pathetic and it will require an immediate response from the legislature to stop prohibition.

Thanks for the thought BCTrippin and I would be skeptical if I were reading this from your perspective too. I can't reveal too much or it would fall apart before it started. If I get it off the ground and get the celebrity and advocacy group support my adman believes he can deliver then by 2010 we'll have legalization.

BTW Facebook, Twitter, and Myspace are already covered my adman has contracts with all of them already for other things and can easily get those three companies to work with him.

-RT76
 

SpruceZeus

Well-Known Member
So, lemme get this straight. You're going to send 2 million bongs to the whitehouse??? Or am i missing the point?
 

RetiredToker76

Well-Known Member
$25-$50, sending a message about our cause... adds up to bongs if you ask me.
You know where I can get 4 bongs for $25 - $50???? SWEET!!!!

Remember the donation will cover ALL your politicians, 2 senators, 1 representative and the president, not just the president ....

Legislation would require MORE than just the President.

A bill has to be introduced to the House or Senate, it has to be passed in BOTH houses, THEN the President has to sign it. We have to cover 536 Politicians to get it done.

That's our BIG problem is if we get the President to sign off GREAT... but it has to pass by a majority in both the house and senate ... If we pander to our very few supporters we get nowhere. We have to convince 218 representatives and 51 senators and 1 President to legalize OR 261 Representatives and 60 senators to make it veto proof.

Millions of dollars have been dumped into convincing them that Marijuana isn't bad or at a minimum that it's not 'that bad.' Trying to convince them it's GOOD with Hemp based product and environmentally friendly goods has failed. Up playing the 'qualities' of Cannabis has failed.

We need to convince them that the draconian laws are unconstitutional, illegal and unethical. We have to promote it as a human right and a freedom. The Stoners with science methodology has failed for 5 decades now. We need to convince them in mass that we don't care about the science (that's for the masses) but we care about the people.

We need a singular united front speaking at once in very short, very simple, very effecient terms that we will no longer tolerate being victimized by our government. We've already PROVEN that hemp is better than cotton, paper, and every other fiber out there. We've already PROVEN that marijuana is safer than alcohol, cigarettes, and in some cases our own food. We've proven it's a superior pain killer and much safer than many chemical medicens legally on the market. What's left to prove? How much more irrefutable evidence do we need to provide? There's not much evidence left to present.

We need to stand united as a people, a sheer force.

I heard the idea of a 'million man toke.' I'm sorry, maybe I'm way too casual of a smoker to understand that but here's my thoughts on it.

If 1,000,000 people try to attend a toke fest on the steps of the white house (laughs) then I think it's safe to say that roughly 250,000 to 300,000 will end up in jail on the way there. They'll get pulled over for some reason, cops will be on edge waiting for smokers to drive through and searches will be rampant. So almost 1/3 of the attendees will get imprisoned on the way there. Then account for the 'hotboxed' cars that don't get caught by police but get stuck in the Denny's cycle of never being sober (Dude where's my car style). I bet another 1/8 get lost there. Then account for the fact that all the million X marches have really been closer to 500,000 and we're down to under 150,000 total. Then there's the motivation. Some people, like me, would love to attend but have neither the time nor the money to do a trek across country without risking our jobs and mortgages. Then there's the fact that some will never make it off the couch. Next thing you know there are only 20 tokers there on the day and they easily are rounded up and hauled off for possession. It simply won't work. My wife suggested inviting Phish (if they're still playing) to triple the attendance.

Then when it's all said and done everyone leaves and the politico's giggle and ignore everything and nothing changes except we had fun one day.

My idea is MUCH more drastic and no one has to do anything but log in and donate a small amount of money that ultimately will just filter back into the economy as no single person will be 'collecting' it unlike 'not for profit organizations' this is 'profit free exhibition.'

-RT76
 

BCtrippin

Well-Known Member
$25-$50, sending a message about our cause... adds up to bongs if you ask me.

.... :confused:


RT76 hasnt been around the forums for very long but my opinion of the guy from the Guns and Growing is that he is Not an idiot, he definitely knows what hes talking about. And I sure as hell wouldn't think he's planning on sending bongs to the whitehouse like some 16 year old.

If you read the thread he's not actually asking anyone for any money. He's asking people what they would be willing to do to make a difference. Apparently he's being smart about it and not leaking his entire plan on the internet before it get's going. Im definitely interested, and Im the biggest skeptic. But I wouldn't just dissmiss it as BS or some stupid stoner scheme to send bongs to the whitehouse.


If you were dedicated enough anyone could get in contact with celebrities like say....Jon Stewart or Stephen Colbert. If you got your idea to someone like that it would get a lot more exporsure than anything so far.

And I think the key here is that the Time Right. Barack Obama just got elected president of the United States. I dont think there has ever been a better time to go for something like this.

Its kinda nice to see someone actually trying to do something instead of just coming up with ideas and doing nothing about it. :clap:

Good luck.


:peace:
 

gogrow

confused
okay.. you can be fairly certain that you would have the support... if your plan is as amazing as you make it out to be...

what i dont understand is; you say that if you were to reveal your idea in full, that the opposition would be prepared... how then will you get the money?? if you are trying to get 50 bucks from 1million people, that will take a considerable amount of time, and massive amounts of promotion... thus giving the opposition time to prepare their stance on it....

why not just let people know your idea?? there is no way you can raise that kind of money and keep it underground:confused::confused::confused:
 

BCtrippin

Well-Known Member
You should contact Robert-A Menard. www.ThinkFree.Ca He would totally wanna get on board. That guy is like the smartest pothead in Canada. Hes been deconstructing laws, and statutes for years.


:peace:
 

Phd0420

Well-Known Member
dude whats your motive anyway if this was any way gunna happen i would donate but i mean a do small things first then get to the big shit make a name for yourself and then ill join your party ? but i dono i dont no u noone here does a lil skeptickle lol
 

jon2

Well-Known Member
I remember reading about some millionaire trying to pay off local authorities because he just wanted to be left alone with his weed. My mother was talking about it, it was on the news or something. If ever I figure out the name ill pm you and maybe you can contact him and work something out. Who knows.
 
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