Is it wrong for a Christian to Smoke Weed.

Louis541

Louis541

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bicycle racer said:
why? what foundation are you talking about? please explain in detail from your own mind not what you read or were force fed as a child how smoking or ingesting cannabis is immoral. these kinds of posts with no thinking or questioning of the religious poster is one of the many horrific examples of why religion is one of the greatest travesties still affecting all of us. american policy and general attitude is shaped by people who cannot or will not consider things with there own intellects or lack there of it is one of the most infuriating subjects to discuss about the human condition. i could go on and on but it angers me too much and at the same time the people that need to see things differently are incapable of doing so. that right there is a good reason to smoke a bowl. im not particularly eloquent but even if i was there is no reasoning with ignorant people deeply frustrating.
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ever hear of "Obey the laws of the land"

Which is bullshit. Would a selfish god really want us listening to laws made by man?

Fuck the vatican.
 
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Swoopadedo

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The only thing I can tell ya, is i remeber reading a bible verse that goes something like " God wants you to use every plant on earth" which would include marijuana am I correct?
 
Louis541

Louis541

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Swoopadedo said:
The only thing I can tell ya, is i remeber reading a bible verse that goes something like " God wants you to use every plant on earth" which would include marijuana am I correct?
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That would also include poison sumak, ivy, and a whole list of other shit that kills people.

And no, not kidding.
 
oh really???

oh really???

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At least we know there are christian smokers. I go to church twice a week and who knows what would happen if they found out. My pastor would be chill but all the others. . .there would be some haters.
 
g00sEgg

g00sEgg

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oh really??? said:
At least we know there are christian smokers. I go to church twice a week and who knows what would happen if they found out. My pastor would be chill but all the others. . .there would be some haters.
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Herm...twice a week? That makes you an uber super christian, right?

You should try lighting up during the sermon.
 
AfghanBoy

AfghanBoy

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Have anyone one of you guys who are religeous read the OLD testiment? It's the word of god yeh??/ Shit man it scares the crap out of me and Im not a beleiver.

The God of the Old Testament is arguably the most unpleasant character in all fiction: jealous and proud of it; a petty, unjust, unforgiving control-freak; a vindictive, bloodthirsty ethnic cleanser; a misogynistic, homophobic, racist, infanticidal, genocidal, filicidal, pestilential, megalomaniacal, sadomasochistic, capriciously malevolent bully.​
The God of the Old Testament is arguably the most unpleasant character in all fiction:
jealous and proud of it
How jealous and proud is he? Well, his name is Jealous. And he named himself!
For thou shalt worship no other god: for the LORD, whose name is Jealous, is a jealous God: Exodus 34:14​
Here are some more verses where God brags about his jealousy.
I the Lord thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation. Exodus 20:5​
For the LORD thy God is a consuming fire, even a jealous God. Deuteronomy 4:24​
I the LORD thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation. Deuteronomy 5:9​
(For the LORD thy God is a jealous God among you) lest the anger of the LORD thy God be kindled against thee, and destroy thee from off the face of the earth. Deuteronomy 6:15​
The LORD will not spare him, but then the anger of the LORD and his jealousy shall smoke against that man, and all the curses that are written in this book shall lie upon him, and the LORD shall blot out his name from under heaven. Deuteronomy 29:20​
They provoked him to jealousy with strange gods, with abominations provoked they him to anger. Deuteronomy 32:16​
They have moved me to jealousy with that which is not God; they have provoked me to anger with their vanities: and I will move them to jealousy with those which are not a people; I will provoke them to anger with a foolish nation. Deuteronomy 32:21​
He is a jealous God; he will not forgive your transgressions nor your sins. Joshua 24:19​
And Judah did evil in the sight of the LORD, and they provoked him to jealousy with their sins. 1 Kings 14:22​
And he put forth the form of an hand, and took me by a lock of mine head; and the spirit lifted me up between the earth and the heaven, and brought me in the visions of God to Jerusalem, to the door of the inner gate that looketh toward the north; where was the seat of the image of jealousy, which provoketh to jealousy. Ezekiel 8:3​
Then said he unto me, Son of man, lift up thine eyes now the way toward the north. So I lifted up mine eyes the way toward the north, and behold northward at the gate of the altar this image of jealousy in the entry. Ezekiel 8:5​
I will judge thee, as women that break wedlock and shed blood are judged; and I will give thee blood in fury and jealousy. Ezekiel 16:38​
So will I make my fury toward thee to rest, and my jealousy shall depart from thee, and I will be quiet, and will be no more angry. Ezekiel 16:42​
And I will set my jealousy against thee, and they shall deal furiously with thee: they shall take away thy nose and thine ears; and thy remnant shall fall by the sword: they shall take thy sons and thy daughters; and thy residue shall be devoured by the fire. Ezekiel 23:25​
Surely in the fire of my jealousy have I spoken against the residue of the heathen. Ezekiel 36:5​
For in my jealousy and in the fire of my wrath have I spoken, Surely in that day there shall be a great shaking in the land of Israel. Ezekiel 38:19​
God is jealous, and the LORD revengeth; the LORD revengeth, and is furious; Nahum 1:2​
Thus saith the LORD of hosts; I am jealous for Jerusalem and for Zion with a great jealousy. Zechariah 1:14​
Thus saith the LORD of hosts; I was jealous for Zion with great jealousy, and I was jealous for her with great fury. Zechariah 8:2​
All the earth shall be devoured with the fire of my jealousy. Zephaniah 3:8



I would ask and Christian not to simply stop beleiving but to, for a short while, start to ask questions, deep questions. Look at the evidence and look at the facts. Religeon dampends down your fabulous human mind, the inquisitive side of your mind is held back by religeon.

Some beleivers think that Atheists, like my self, must be full of hate, have no sense or morals or justice, must be evil blah blah blah. Rubbish. I love like anyone else, I have empathy and I care about my fellow humans and in fact all other species. I care about the law (apart from cannabis laws) and I care about justice. I get these from society I dont need a fictional charactor to tell me how to live my life for the good of myself, my family and others.

Way before God apparatly turned up on the scene, humans have showed some morality, empathy and caring for others. ITS HUMAN INSTINCT not a god.


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AfghanBoy

AfghanBoy

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It seems to me that most churches pick and choose which bit's on the old or new testiment to beleive in. Surely you cant pick and choose can you?
 
fish601

fish601

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AfghanBoy said:
The God of the Old Testament is arguably the most unpleasant character in all fiction:
jealous and proud of it
How jealous and proud is he? Well, his name is Jealous. And he named himself!
a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation. Exodus 20:5


Look at the evidence and look at the facts. Religeon dampends down your fabulous human mind, the inquisitive side of your mind is held back by religeon.

Some beleivers think that Atheists, like my self, must be full of hate, have no sense or morals or justice, must be evil blah blah blah. Rubbish. I love like anyone else, I have empathy and I care about my fellow humans and in fact all other species. I care about the law (apart from cannabis laws) and I care about justice. I get these from society I dont need a fictional charactor to tell me how to live my life for the good of myself, my family and others.


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Exodus 20:4-5 says, “You shall not make for yourself an idol in the form of anything in heaven above or on the earth beneath or in the waters below. You shall not bow down to them or worship them; for I, the LORD your God, am a jealous God...” Notice that God is jealous when someone gives to another something that rightly belongs to Him.
Think about it if your wife or girlfriend flerted with antoher guy wouldnt you get jealous?

I am a christian because i ""Look at the evidence and look at the facts.""

I think Atheists are normal people. I used to be one. But I sometimes forget [FONT=Arial, Geneva, Helvetica]1 Corinthians 1 Read This Chapter[/FONT][FONT=Arial, Geneva, Helvetica]1:18 For the preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolishness; but unto us which are saved it is the power of God[/FONT]
 
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PadawanBater

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fish, did you used to be an 'atheist' in the sense that you never questioned what you believed in, which essentially puts you in no category? Or that you actually believed there was no god, or that the possibility of a god is highly unlikely?
 
doublejj

doublejj

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When I look at the whole long list of 10 Commandments I don't see nothing about weed!

If God didn't want us to use Marijuana, there'd be 11 Commandments!.........Light up!
 
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PadawanBater

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fish601 said:
atheist also




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The only thing all Christians have in common is they believe in Christ... Maybe they should get the story straight between themselves before venturing out and trying to get some converts...

fish, atheism is a religion like bald is a hair color.
 
fish601

fish601

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PadawanBater said:
The only thing all Christians have in common is they believe in Christ... Maybe they should get the story straight between themselves before venturing out and trying to get some converts...

fish, atheism is a religion like bald is a hair color.
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Jehovah Witness,Mormons are not christians

But i am gona have to agree with you on Christians should get the story straight.
There are so many goofballs that run out and open up a chuch and preach wrong messages... i know noone is perfect but we have a book to go by we should get most things right LOL That is why i search the scriptures to see if what they say is right.. most christians take the preachers word for it :(
 
Heads

Heads

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Read through the bible it speaks directly against alcohol but no where does it directly name cannabis the only reason it is illegal is because it was infringing upon the cotton corporation revenues as more things began to be made from hemp so the cotton corp of america did the same thing the big corporations due today and bought lobbyist and government and ran slam ad campaigns to force the bill through and voila overnight it was illegal it is all BS smoke on from one christian to another
 
CrackerJax

CrackerJax

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fish601 said:
Jehovah Witness,Mormons are not christians

But i am gona have to agree with you on Christians should get the story straight.
There are so many goofballs that run out and open up a chuch and preach wrong messages... i know noone is perfect but we have a book to go by we should get most things right LOL That is why i search the scriptures to see if what they say is right.. most christians take the preachers word for it :(
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So the "Church of Jesus Christ and the Latter day Saints" aren't Christians? Someone better tell them then.....

I will throw out the JW's to be fair since they don't believe in the Trinity.

Let's list the denominations....G*D'S message is awfully complicated it seems......a bit nooby if you ask me for a G*D.

Largest denominations in the world


 
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