Is This normal?

Taco740 said:

is there anything I can do to the water to remove all of the unneccisary stuff other than a R.O. machine? I don't have the funds for it right now.

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There's a filter made called Zero Water that's a lot cheaper than an RO unit but more than a Brita. Works like a Brita tho so if you need a lot of water it's going to be a PITA to get quantity.

I'm shopping for the RO filter and housing on it's own and build my own system with finer filters than what they come with. My water comes out of a dugout and we already filter it to 5 micron and that's what the first filter is in the store bought systems. Plus they use a different sized filter that cost 50% more than the ones we use now. I want 1 or 0.5 micron filters in front of the RO membrane. Want the de-ionizing filter after that too.

Thanks man. I think I've seen those zero water filters on a commercial before. I plan on eventually getting a r.o. unit but I'm waiting till I move to a different location

Taco740 said:

Everytime about half way through flowering my plants start to yellow and eventually die off. Is This normal or do I have some sort of defiency?

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Taco...I have to say I didn't finish reading your thread. It's nice to have your plant use up some of it's stored nutrients at the end of grow...ideal even.

If it looks like it's too widespread and too soon...well then that means you pulled GROW nutrients perhaps a bit too soon. Or soil ran out too soon. In flowering, N additions should be mild and gentle. Top dressing with worm castings is as aggressive as I ever get.
JD

JohnDee said:

Taco...I have to say I didn't finish reading your thread. It's nice to have your plant use up some of it's stored nutrients at the end of grow...ideal even.

If it looks like it's too widespread and too soon...well then that means you pulled GROW nutrients perhaps a bit too soon. Or soil ran out too soon. In flowering, N additions should be mild and gentle. Top dressing with worm castings is as aggressive as I ever get.
JD

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Do you mean grow as in grow and bloom or as in the whole grow in its entire? because I was in a little over mod flower and all of my leaves started to yellow then shrivel up and die off.

So you think I'm over feeding in veg? and what exactly do you mean by soil ran out too soon? I'm not quite sure I get that. the only top soil nutes i have are the ones in the pics. would they be good enough if I come into a problem with N in bloom again?

This Is what my cloth pot looks like. Maybe it's salt build up?

and that's my green crack. is that a normal yellowing that everyone is talking about?

and I hate to be that guy that blows up a thread by himself but in still fairly new and could use some help.

I planted both my girl scout cookies and gorilla glue at the same time, gave them both the same love, time, nutes, etc. but it seems like there is something wrong with my girl scout cookies while there is nothing wrong with my gorilla glue. can someone give me some insight as to what Is wrong and what I should do better next time?

Taco,
I apologise that my response to your thread was incomplete. And when I said GROW...I did mean as in grow and bloom nutrients.

Organics is a whole different ballgame then using non-organic nutrients.

Something went awry mid flower...and my guess was that you perhaps should have continued your grow nutrients longer to acommodate the stretch...then switched over to bloom nutes.
And make sure you have some organic tools in your toolbox that you can apply if/when this happens again. Like I mentioned top dressing worm castings will give a N boost as will fish emulsion. Been years (actually decades) simce I did organic growing so I'm not the best person to advise you. Lots of organic guys here though.

Oh saw you had other questions. When I said that your soil ran out...I wasn't aware of your feeding schedule. Many organic growers will start with a super rich soil and allow the plant to grow just with that...no additions. And at a certain point the plant can use up all the usable N and other nutrients in the soil. That's what I meant by soil running out.

And on your green crack. Yes that is the yellowing but more pronounced then normal. Some people would look at that plant and say perfect while others might say that it needed more nutrition and is too pale. This is an area where many people differ.

And your final question...I'll hazard a guess. Different strains can have radically different appetites. So I'd say that's why one strain did well and the other didn't. You can't treat them all alike.

Maybe you should evaluate your commitment to those organic nutrients if they aren't working well for you.
JD

For nutes I was using floranova but have recently switched to the flora series with the micro, grow, and bloom. I'm pretty sure I have been over feeding my plants. I got a new PPM meter and it's showing a higher number than my previous one

Taco,
Well use your new meter to check ph and ppm of runoff. That will at least give you a clue as to what is happening in rootzone.
Post the numbers...next time you water.
JD

Taco740 said:

Everytime about half way through flowering my plants start to yellow and eventually die off. Is This normal or do I have some sort of defiency?

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This looks like a potassium deficiency to me.

Taco740 said:

and I hate to be that guy that blows up a thread by himself but in still fairly new and could use some help.

I planted both my girl scout cookies and gorilla glue at the same time, gave them both the same love, time, nutes, etc. but it seems like there is something wrong with my girl scout cookies while there is nothing wrong with my gorilla glue. can someone give me some insight as to what Is wrong and what I should do better next time?

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I did this same combo a few months ago I got rid of the gsc cuz its a bitch to grow. What you have is a magnesium deficiency and a potassium deficiency at the same time, all the time. If you want to learn foliar feeding and just how much shit can I dump on this bitch then gsc is the one you want, thats your training plant. I wouldnt expect much from the gsc except to learn from it and I wouldnt be worried about it looking like shit cuz its just not going to happen. GSC wouldnt survive out in the wild imo.

Read up on microbes, it would help alot if you added them at a small dose once a week.

Fabric pots suck.

Since you have a ppm meter what ppm are you feeding at.

Bernie420 said:

Fabric pots suck.

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hey Bernie, what's wrong with fabric pots? I've been using for the first time and like them. They dry out much quicker which I think is good for the roots.

raggyb said:

hey Bernie, what's wrong with fabric pots? I've been using for the first time and like them. They dry out much quicker which I think is good for the roots.

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hard to move around, get salt stained and look like shit, hard to water, dries out quicker than a normal pot, proper watering / healthy plant you dont need that feature. Roots will grow into it making it harder to transplant if you wanted to go to a bigger pot. Pain to water mostly from what I hear. And Ive never used one thats just my opinion that they suck. Looking at your picture of one made me think to say, fabric pots suck. You like it go for it, party on wayne party on garth.

just so you know dont let the pots, any pot just sit in a puddle of water after you water them not good for the roots sitting in swill like that, just making sure you dont do that . shop vac that shit out.

Bernie420 said:

This looks like a potassium deficiency to me.

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which one? the first plant or the girl scout cookies?

Taco740 said:

which one? the first plant or the girl scout cookies?

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your first post

so what would be your advice on taking care of the girl scout cookies?

Bernie420 said:

hard to move around, get salt stained and look like shit, hard to water, dries out quicker than a normal pot, proper watering / healthy plant you dont need that feature. Roots will grow into it making it harder to transplant if you wanted to go to a bigger pot. Pain to water mostly from what I hear. And Ive never used one thats just my opinion that they suck. Looking at your picture of one made me think to say, fabric pots suck. You like it go for it, party on wayne party on garth.

just so you know dont let the pots, any pot just sit in a puddle of water after you water them not good for the roots sitting in swill like that, just making sure you dont do that . shop vac that shit out.

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Not to change the subject, but ok, was just checking. I'm doing fine with fabric pots so far but we'll see. Status of the roots still remains to be seen. I haven''t got the salt stains taco got. I definitely don't water large amounts and get next to no runoff. I'm in soil. Don't know if Taco is or coco? I nute every other time I think at 800ppm. What ppm you watering taco? Or maybe the stain is something else in your tap? Do you keep reusing your fabric pot over and over and if so did you wash it between? I'm just asking because maybe that stain is a good clue to look into further. I mean white could be a salt. Wonder what else is different about the flora line. Was the stain with flora or with floranova?

I was kind of successful foliar feeding epsom salt or H&G magic green at about 250 ppm in my sprayer. One or the other every three days. Till about the middle of flower.

Me I ddint do it every three days as soon as it got turned around a litttle I got slacky. Put it in flower and it yellowed out in less than two weeks.

Its good smoke if you have a good strain of it not worth it though imo I got rid of it. Post a pic of your gsc.