Is this plant ready to flush?

twentyeight.threefive

twentyeight.threefive

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Budget Buds said:
I dont know how many times I've said it before..... depriving a plant in the last couple of weeks when it needs the nutrients the most because of the myth that you can somehow flush nutrients out of a plant is retarded. All you are doing is a guaranteeing a way to reduce you're yields and quality.some nutrients are immobile and not able to be removed from the plant, others are mobile but are utilized more efficiently and thus not flushable either ( think yellowing leaves in flowering from lack of nitrogen)

The time you chop, the duration of the dry and cure is the way to make great cannabis....

When I was more inexperienced with growing cannabis I would flush too, I met and old timer who laughed when I asked him how he flushed..... he instructed me to make a note of my current grow at that times yield and the next run dont flush ..... I used the same strain from the same mother and the only change was the not flushing part.... I yielded over 2 more ounces from not flushing, after the dry and cure it was noticeably more potent than the last runs was.

Dont buy into the myth of flushing , it's some stoner myth conjured up by nutrient companies to sell you shit you dont need.
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But how do you really feel about flushing. Don't hold back.
 
Doug Dawson

Doug Dawson

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Budget Buds said:
I dont know how many times I've said it before..... depriving a plant in the last couple of weeks when it needs the nutrients the most because of the myth that you can somehow flush nutrients out of a plant is retarded. All you are doing is a guaranteeing a way to reduce you're yields and quality.

The time you chop, and the dry and cure is the way to make great cannabis....

When I was more inexperienced with growing cannabis I would flush too, I met and old timer who laughed when I asked him how he flushed..... he instructed me to make a note of my current grow at that times yield and the next run dont flush ..... I used the same strain from the same mother and the only change was the not flushing part.... I yielded over 2 more ounces from not flushing, after the dry and cure it was noticeably more potent than the last runs was.

Dont buy into the myth of flushing , it's some stoner myth conjured up by nutrient companies to sell you shit you dont need.
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I get what you are saying. This is my very first plant so inexperience is in abundance. I am pretty happy to have gotten it to this point to be perfectly honest. I have been reading through all the threads and posts from growers here and decided not to flush as it seemed to make more sense to me. Down the road I will have my own practical knowledge regarding such things but for now I am drawing on others for advice. All I can do is take it all in and decide for myself which way to go and in this case that meant skipping the flush. Do you agree with Wattzzup regarding going to straight ph'd water for last couple days?
 
Doug Dawson

Doug Dawson

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Wattzzup said:
I’ve seen a few that I would..... :bigjoint:

OP I would at least do a few days of water once you get close to the end. At least the last one or two waterings.
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Thanks for the input. What is the purpose of going to straight PH'd water for last few days?
 
Wattzzup

Wattzzup

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Just to clean any excess nutrients out of the plant. If your nutrients are on point then you can probably skip it. Mine are never on point. So I water the last few days as a compromise between flushing and not flushing.
 
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Budget Buds

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I dont reduce my nutrients at all in the last days, I would say if you want to sure. I've played around in the past with reducing nutrients the past few days and noticed no differences. I actually ramp up the nutrients during the last 3 weeks. It varies from strain to strain but usually I end up around 1600ppm. To each there own though...
twentyeight.threefive said:
But how do you really feel about flushing. Don't hold back.
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I feel pretty;)
 
Bushbaby11

Bushbaby11

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getogrow said:
this is 100% preference at this point.
50% amber is way too much in my world. That would mean 50% of your resin heads are starting to degrade. Its all downhill from there. (10-15% is as close to mature as you can get) My personal preference is no more then 10% amber ......when i see amber , its chop time.
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Depending on what sort of high you require though tbh
 
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Budget Buds

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twentyeight.threefive said:
You end up feeding at 3.0 EC?
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Not always... strain depedant... my gumboldt will handle higher, my nl will take about 1400... it depends but usually around 1600.

Fine line though as diminished returns and wasted nutrients are a real possibility. I dont buy new strains all time , usually I stick to about 4 different strains I've ran for years.... every time I try a new one its usually a waste of time... the last ones were Barneys farm orange sherbet and dinafems ocean grown cookies... the OS was garbage, the ogc was decent but not really anything I would be able to run in my setup without tons of manual training.
I just ordered some bog seeds for the summer , had em before and really liked every strain I've tried from him.....
 
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spek9

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Wattzzup said:
Just to clean any excess nutrients out of the plant. If your nutrients are on point then you can probably skip it. Mine are never on point. So I water the last few days as a compromise between flushing and not flushing.
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Nutrients aren't washed out of a plant. By giving plain water for the last couple of days, you're eliminating the plant's ability to uptake nutrients through the roots because there are none (or a significantly reduced amount). The plants don't shed nutrients just because the water doesn't have any.

At the last phase of growth, the plant starts using nutrients from the leaves it knows it will no longer need, as it knows it's about to die (this is called "senescence"). It does this in conjunction with nutrient root uptake. If you stop feeding nutrients at the end, the plant will simply use more from the stored supply from the leaves at a greater rate. All of those nutrients are still being utilized within the plant.
 
Hobbes

Hobbes

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Spek are there nutrients used up from the buds or is it only the leaves that go negative? I know the buds won't transfer nutes becuase there's no where more vital for them to go to.

And what is foxtailing?

Thank you

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Doug Dawson

Doug Dawson

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Hobbes said:
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Spek are there nutrients used up from the buds or is it only the leaves that go negative? I know the buds won't transfer nutes becuase there's no where more vital for them to go to.

And what is foxtailing?

Thank you

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Hello Hobbes, Cannabis foxtailing is a phenomenon in which the buds of a cannabis plant start growing abnormal spires or tips.
Take a look at this for the information you were looking for.

www.growweedeasy.com

What Are Marijuana Foxtails? Good or Bad for Buds? | Grow Weed Easy

What makes long thin buds grow on top of your regular buds? And when is fox-tailing perfectly normal? Also, why do new white pistils keep appearing on almost-done buds?
www.growweedeasy.com www.growweedeasy.com
 
Wattzzup

Wattzzup

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spek9 said:
Nutrients aren't washed out of a plant.
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Not sure I said they were. But ok. What I’m saying is that my plant and soil has too many nutrients built up at the end so I give plain water for the last few times. Since there’s a toxicity the plant will use up the excess and the rest goes down the drain.
 
Boatguy

Boatguy

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Wattzzup said:
Not sure I said they were. But ok. What I’m saying is that my plant and soil has too many nutrients built up at the end so I give plain water for the last few times. Since there’s a toxicity the plant will use up the excess and the rest goes down the drain.
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The flushing will remove excess nutes from the soil. The plant, not so much.
That damage cant be fixed with even a few weeks of waterings. Not overfeeding to begin with is the way to go.
Even my most overfed plants never burned to black ash, or sparked like some claim, and i have never flushed.
 
Wattzzup

Wattzzup

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Boatguy said:
The flushing will remove excess nutes from the soil. The plant, not so much.
That damage cant be fixed with even a few weeks of waterings. Not overfeeding to begin with is the way to go.
Even my most overfed plants never burned to black ash, or sparked like some claim, and i have never flushed.
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So you think it’s a waste to do a couple days? I harvested my last plant without flushing and I feel like I could taste a difference. Who knows it might just be because I know it wasn’t flushed. It’s in my head!!!
 
Boatguy

Boatguy

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Wattzzup said:
So you think it’s a waste to do a couple days? I harvested my last plant without flushing and I feel like I could taste a difference. Who knows it might just be because I know it wasn’t flushed. It’s in my head!!!
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Almost everything we do differently with pot is a just an in your head thing. Grow it like a tomato and you will be amazed how easy it grows.
 
Wattzzup

Wattzzup

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Boatguy said:
Almost everything we do differently with pot is a just an in your head thing. Grow it like a tomato and you will be amazed how easy it grows.
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I’m actually going organic so I won’t be flushing the next few plants. Thanks for the info!
 
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spek9

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Wattzzup said:
Do you ph? Some people are saying yes some say no. My tap ph is over 8.
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I would, no matter what medium. I try to let my pH 'float' up and down a couple of points (ie. 0.1-0.3) every few feedings for maximum nutrient uptake. Soil is more forgiving, but in my humble opinion not an excuse to not configure the water going in properly. You can distort the pH buffer in soil by continuously pouring high (or low) pH water on it long enough.
 
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