is this root rot?

Rblade · Sep 12, 2023

Hello fellas , a week ago I have change a plant from a vertical hydro tower to a DWC. I my room the temperature is hot, even +85F, but now it's around 80F

The problem is that. I have seen brown leafs in the newest top leafs. Usually I have seen this colour when roots are rooting. What do you think about?

I am using h2O2 at 12% all days. Around 1ml/L. - 3ml/gal

ProPheT 216 · Sep 12, 2023

Likely a disease or mold. Can you give some details?

What u feed. How often. The strength.

Your in dwc so can I see the roots also?

You may have killed lots of roots with the transplant

amneziaHaze · Sep 12, 2023

How was your ppm last few days?
If its root root you will see some of the roots looking fucked up.but not all of them

Allsoo starts smelling funky

Billy the Mountain · Sep 12, 2023

Rblade said:
Hello fellas , a week ago I have change a plant from a vertical hydro tower to a DWC. I my room the temperature is hot, even +85F, but now it's around 80F

The problem is that. I have seen brown leafs in the newest top leafs. Usually I have seen this colour when roots are rooting. What do you think about?

I am using h2O2 at 12% all days. Around 1ml/L. - 3ml/gal

A reasonable suggestion: If you're trying to determine if you have root rot, it's best to inspect the roots rather than the leaves.

Rblade · Sep 12, 2023

ProPheT 216 said:
Likely a disease or mold. Can you give some details?

What u feed. How often. The strength.

Your in dwc so can I see the roots also?

You may have killed lots of roots with thr transplant

I feed once at week with GHE micro and bloom. Lucas formula at 61% strength

Around 900ppm

Thank you all for the support

Rblade · Sep 12, 2023

amneziaHaze said:
How was your ppm last few days?
If its root root you will see some of the roots looking fucked up.but not all of them

Allsoo starts smelling funky

Roots smells good, like roots. And I have not slime or something like that

Billy the Mountain · Sep 12, 2023

Rblade said:
Roots smells good, like roots. And I have not slime or something like that

You've got root isuues.
They may smell ok, but they don't look so good. They shouldn't appear orange nor be matted and clumped together as pictured.
I'd suggest some Defguard or S. Ag. Garden Friendly Fungicide (bacillus amyloliquefaciens).

Rblade · Sep 12, 2023

Billy the Mountain said:
You've got root isuues.
They may smell ok, but they don't look so good. They shouldn't appear orange nor be matted and clumped together as pictured.
I'd suggest some Defguard or S. Ag. Garden Friendly Fungicide (bacillus amyloliquefaciens).

I think that the orange colour is by the GHE feed. I think they are clumped together because they was in a vertical tower before..

I'm using H2O2 for a week. Today I have tried with bleach too. It's possible to recovery?

rkymtnman · Sep 12, 2023

never seen leaves die from the base outwards. and no tip burn which is unusual.

Billy the Mountain · Sep 12, 2023

Rblade said:
I think that the orange colour is by the GHE feed. I think they are clumped together because they was in a vertical tower before..

I'm using H2O2 for a week. Today I have tried with bleach too. It's possible to recovery?

No, the clumping is not normal or desired.

Nor is the orange color from the nutes. If so, the color would be uniform throughout.

The pic on the left is a plant with some root issues. It had been treated with GFF, and a few days later new roots started growing from the sickly roots.
I decided to chop off all the bad roots. Pic on far right is a week later.

rkymtnman · Sep 12, 2023

Billy the Mountain said:
No, the clumping is not normal or desired

looks like the grass our dog eats and then throws up when she has an upset stomach

Rblade · Sep 12, 2023

Billy the Mountain said:
No, the clumping is not normal or desired.

Nor is the orange color from the nutes. If so, the color would be uniform throughout.

The pic on the left is a plant with some root issues. It had been treated with GFF, and a few days later new roots started growing from the sickly roots.
I decided to chop off all the bad roots. Pic on far right is a week later.

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Do you think that is better for me cut off a big part of the root mass?

amneziaHaze · Sep 12, 2023

Billy the Mountain said:
You've got root isuues.
They may smell ok, but they don't look so good. They shouldn't appear orange nor be matted and clumped together as pictured.
I'd suggest some Defguard or S. Ag. Garden Friendly Fungicide (bacillus amyloliquefaciens).

You can get color from nutes.and if you put h202 on them maybe you bleached a few.but if on their own half are white half yellow then you have root rot.in that case i would cut the dark ones.but know that will slow your plant a lot until she recovers

Clumping comes from turbulent water you have a small space lots of roots and bubbles mixing it like crazy.dont worry about it

rkymtnman · Sep 12, 2023

amneziaHaze said:
dont worry about it

did you see pics of his leaves? i'd worry about it.

Billy the Mountain · Sep 12, 2023

amneziaHaze said:
You can get color from nutes.and if you put h202 on them maybe you bleached a few.but if on their own half are white half yellow then you have root rot.in that case i would cut the dark ones.but know that will slow your plant a lot until she recovers

Clumping comes from turbulent water you have a small space lots of roots and bubbles mixing it like crazy.dont worry about it

Water movement may result in some tangled roots, but they're not gonna end up clumped together in a single mass.

The problem is clearly pythium and not aggressive bubbling or mixing of the water.

amneziaHaze · Sep 12, 2023

rkymtnman said:
did you see pics of his leaves? i'd worry about it.

Sorry that was for the clumping part

As for his leafs i couldnt find a single person that had a problrm that started at the base of thr leaf soo maybe it was caused by an external element.
Is the whole plant affected or a single leaf

Edit yea bubles cant make it clump

Rblade · Sep 12, 2023

Billy the Mountain said:
Water movement may result in some tangled roots, but they're not gonna end up clumped together in a single mass.

The problem is clearly pythium and not aggressive bubbling or mixing of the water.

This is the root that usually I get with my vertical tower. Seems better than the problematic plant of today, which is on a DWC bucket

amneziaHaze · Sep 12, 2023

Well if its the same nute and its allways white wtf are you asking is it root rot.....

Billy the Mountain · Sep 12, 2023

amneziaHaze said:
Sorry that was for the clumping part

As for his leafs i couldnt find a single person that had a problrm that started at the base of thr leaf soo maybe it was caused by an external element.
Is the whole plant affected or a single leaf

Edit yea bubles cant make it clump

Maybe it's a matter of semantics, but the roots pic you posted look like normal healthy DWC roots. Sure, they're tangled together, which is to be expected, but they're not clumped together in a solid mass.

amneziaHaze · Sep 12, 2023

Yea mate i am confused.
Maybe you are allsoo because be started in a hightower. But doesnt matter its root root since he allways had white roots with his nutes

is this root rot?

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