Is this something to worry about?

I used to work with a builder. He always used to tell me "Look worried but don't get worried".
He was an absolute cowboy, but it's good advise.

I would take that and transplant it outside in the soil if possible.

Dr. Who said:

Ok, sure thing kiddo..

Coming from the guy that tested them before they went public with them!

I have a cpl of super hot pepper plants in in the large 20 gallon pots they sent me.... They are around 8 to 10 years old. Older one being the ghost and the Reaper is one too. The younger ones are Bishop's hat's or cap's... The pots are falling apart with age. They now sit in nice Orientale pots for when they come inside for the winter.

Same thing is true with them.... The roots stand off from filling the last inch or so from the sides...Till the pot started to die...

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You got to test them first, wow, good going glad you released them to us. My cloth pots are full of roots by end of grow, airpruning is the shit. Maybe doing it wrong? Not so sure about wasted pot space but l use big pots too so maybe why!

xtsho said:

I'm in total agreement with you regarding coco and runoff. It's completely unnecessary but since all the cannabis specific coco sites tell people to do it that's what they do. I've done entire grows using blumats and absolutely no runoff at all. The plants were healthy from start to finish despite never being watered until runoff. There is so much incorrect information floating around the cannabis growing scene that it's surpassing the legitimate good information.

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Easy to guess what's going on.

Many of the nutrient makers ,, Also sell their own Coco... Now what do you think they are going to have you do?
Wallet thinners! All they want is your money!

Nutrient makers LIE!

On a positive note. I LOVE my blumats! That's how us soil boys take vacations!

twentyeight.threefive said:

You disagree with someone so you try to degrade them and toss out the kiddo insult?

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You threw out the first stone.....

I'm done.

Dr. Who said:

You threw out the first stone.....

I'm done.

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ROFL. Need to work on your sensitivity reactions.

I disagree with your statement and you degrade. I have photos of my plant roots entirely filling a cloth pot. It's not like it's something I made up.

Dr. Who said:

I do not like fabric pots. To much wasted media space. To much root ball density in the center.
This causes too much run off and not enough use of the feed by the "umbrella" effect.

This means that you water it and the liquid simply rolls around the root ball (due to how dense it is) and runs out of the sides and bottom of the pot.

The roots are not using the un-rooted space between the roots and the pot walls... That's more then a 20% loss of useable root space.
Bigger roots equal bigger buds.

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Should I swap out these awful cloth pots for plastic pots? Look how those roots aren't using the un-rooted space between the roots and pot sides like you said. Look at all that wasted space.

I want to grow some big plants and could use expert advice. Thanks in advance for any tips.

seems to be a big trunk for this size of pot. wish i can see the entire plant

Frankterpene said:

seems to be a big trunk for this size of pot. wish i can see the entire plant

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3 gallon Vivosun cloth pot.

Seedstockers - BCN Critical XXL Autoflower






Seedsmans - Lemon Auto (these cloth pots are awful)

twentyeight.threefive said:

3 gallon Vivosun cloth pot.

Seedstockers - BCN Critical XXL Autoflower
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Seedsmans - Lemon Auto (these cloth pots are awful)
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wow. nice job

twentyeight.threefive said:

ROFL. Need to work on your sensitivity reactions.

I disagree with your statement and you degrade. I have photos of my plant roots entirely filling a cloth pot. It's not like it's something I made up.

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You disagree with something your not understanding. I did not "degrade".

JUST like I said. Your pictures confirm.

Cloth or fabric pots are MADE TO AIR PRUNE THE ROOTS AND KEEP THEM OFF THE EDGE'S!

While your plants look nice. (I NEVER SAID YOU COULDN'T GROW)

The roots that heavy, all the way out to the sides. NOT what the pots ARE designed to do!

In the use of those pots. You've defeated their whole purpose.... There for, you used them wrong! Flood and drain?

BTW, IF you took the time to dial in. You could do the same or better in Rockwool.... likely cheaper too...

YOU got smart ass in your "reply's"....

Dr. Who said:

You disagree with something your not understanding. I did not "degrade".

JUST like I said. Your pictures confirm.

Cloth or fabric pots are MADE TO AIR PRUNE THE ROOTS AND KEEP THEM OFF THE EDGE'S!

While your plants look nice. (I NEVER SAID YOU COULDN'T GROW)

The roots that heavy, all the way out to the sides. NOT what the pots ARE designed to do!

In the use of those pots. You've defeated their whole purpose.... There for, you used them wrong! Flood and drain?

BTW, IF you took the time to dial in. You could do the same or better in Rockwool.... likely cheaper too...

YOU got smart ass in your "reply's"....

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I'm not at all understanding what you're saying. Rootbound plants are good? Tiny root systems are good?

lusidghost said:

I'm not at all understanding what you're saying. Rootbound plants are good? Tiny root systems are good?

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NO! That's exactly WHY I didn't (and don't) like fabric pots..

The only reason my peppers went into them? I had them lying around still AND they were free.

Dr. Who said:

NO! That's exactly WHY I didn't (and don't) like fabric pots..

The only reason my peppers went into them? I had them lying around still AND they were free.

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Why do you keep talking about peppers? Are you saying the entire pot is rootbound, instead of how plastic pots actually get rootbound? You think big coiling roots around the outside is a good thing? Or are you saying you suggest a bigger plastic pot?

Okay, I went back a reread what you originally wrote. You're calling the whole root system a root ball and it confused me. What you're saying is the roots get so dense that the water is shed instead of absorbing into the center of the pot, where the actual root ball is. What I came to learn is watering too fast causes shredding off of the sides when the roots are full developed. I also learned that watering too fast before the roots are fully developed can cause the coco to sort of collapse and fill in the air pockets, causing drainage issues no matter how slowly you water them from there out. I've messed up the "matrix" and it would take hours to feed my plants because I basically had to water a tiny amount and move on, then come back over and over until I started to see some runoff.