Islam can dish it out, but can't take it

OddBall1st

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Coupled with the fact that Muslims are now finally taking a stand and aggression against ISIS, it`s a good start to convincing the rest of the world that killing in the name of religion only is not acceptable.

Time will tell the rest of the story...
 

cc2012

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Brusthom Ziamani 'arrested on way to behead soldier'
9 February 2015 Last updated at 13:36



Mr Ziamani appeared before the Old Bailey in the City of London

Brusthom Ziamani, 19, was carrying a rucksack containing a 12-inch knife and a hammer, when he was arrested on a street in east London in August 2014.

The Old Bailey heard he idolised the killers of Fusilier Lee Rigby and had researched the location of Army cadet bases in south-east London.

Mr Ziamani, of Camberwell in south-east London, has pleaded not guilty.

Jurors heard Mr Ziamani had converted to Islam in early 2014 and his arrest came after he showed his ex-girlfriend the weapons, described Fusilier Rigby's killer Michael Adebolajo as a "legend", and told her he would "kill soldiers".

Prosecutor Annabel Darlow told the court: "He didn't say anything when he was arrested but he was remanded and told a security officer that he had been on his way to kill a British soldier at an Army barracks when he had been arrested.

'Changed person'

After this arrest police found a letter in his jeans addressed to his "beloved parents" saying he was a "changed person".

He wrote of being martyred and going to paradise and referenced people being raped, tortured and killed in Iraq and Syria, saying he had a "duty" to help them.

He wrote: "Because I have no means ov gettin there I will wage war against the british government on this soil the british government will have a taste of there own medicine they will be humiliated this is ISIB Islamic State of Ireland and Britain.

"Now we will take a thousand ov yours then ten thousand and send you all to the hell-fire you want war you got it British soldiers heads will be removed and burned u cannot defeat the Muslims we love to die the way you love to live my fellow muslim brothers these people want war lets kill them slaughter them and implement sharia in our lands and UK.

He went on: "Lee Rigby is burnin in hell im dying good for him this is what you get for voting Cameron and democracy."

He told police he looked up to radical preachers including Abu Hamza and Anjem Choudary, but denied he was planning an attack.

He was later released on bail and spoken to in July by engagement officers from the anti-radicalisation Prevent programme.

The court heard Mr Ziamani was unresponsive and said he "did not need help with his religion" and had left the home of his Christian family.

Mr Ziamani is charged with preparing an act of terrorism on or before 20 August 2014.
 

Doer

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Just a nut case, right?
He doesn't speak for all Islam, correct?
There are not Muslim enclaves that are, Sharia gang run, but report to Saudi, are there?
Islamists all over don't say exactly the same thing, do they?
Obama is not trying to steal the brand name from Mecca, is he?
There are more Christian terror attack by far, than Muslim, don't you think?
Christians used to do this to everyone, didn't they?
These are just good people and we should let them do whatever they want, yes?
If we apologize they won't come for us, tell me please?
No-one has beheaded anyone publicly for Islam in the USA, have they?
But, he was just a nut case, right?
 
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NLXSK1

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Just a nut case, right?
He doesn't speak for all Islam, correct?
There are not Muslim enclaves that are Sharia gang run but report to Saudi, are there?
Islamists all over don't say exactly the same thing, do they?
Obama is not trying to steal the brand name from Mecca, is he?
There are more Christian terror attack by far, than Muslim, don't you think?
These are just good people and we should let them do whatever they want, yes?
If we apologize they won't come for us, tell me please?
No-one has beheaded anyone publicly for Islam in the USA, have they?
But, he was just a nut case, right?

You forgot - Christians did it too


(3000 years ago.....)
 

Doer

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You forgot - Christians did it too


(3000 years ago.....)
No, Bucky said there are more Christian, terror attacks.....that's in there. Not a whole lot of Christian around, 3000 yrs ago....Just saying.

But, I added a line for NLX....to be clear.
 
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Doer

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Jeeze at least he didn't say he was going to have my mother raped by 10 and then dismembered...alive I presume.

So, he is a good Muslim, right?

"Now we will take a thousand ov yours then ten thousand and send you all to the hell-fire you want war you got it British soldiers heads will be removed and burned u cannot defeat the Muslims we love to die the way you love to live my fellow muslim brothers these people want war lets kill them slaughter them and implement sharia in our lands and UK.

He went on: "Lee Rigby is burnin in hell im dying good for him this is what you get for voting Cameron and democracy."
 

ginwilly

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3000 died in the terror attacks on 9-11.

2.5 million died in wars justified by those terror attacks.

91.5 million have died of starvation since 9-11.
So much deeper than that too. It divided the country along partisan lines. It caused a domino affect of our privacy rights being eroded. It lead to us printing trillions more dollars to recover and doubling our debt.

The 3000 lives were a terrible thing, but the overall impact was so much more. I'd say we lost that one. We live in a different country since 9/11.
 

OddBall1st

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So much deeper than that too. It divided the country along partisan lines. It caused a domino affect of our privacy rights being eroded. It lead to us printing trillions more dollars to recover and doubling our debt.

The 3000 lives were a terrible thing, but the overall impact was so much more. I'd say we lost that one. We live in a different country since 9/11.

It`s fooled Mother Nature, She`s delivering Wisconsin and Minnesota, North Dakota and Montana snows to New England. Definitely a different Country.
 

ginwilly

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It`s fooled Mother Nature, She`s delivering Wisconsin and Minnesota, North Dakota and Montana snows to New England. Definitely a different Country.
lol

smartass....;)

It really is amazing how much affect on us a few idiots with box cutters had.
 

Doer

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lol

smartass....;)

It really is amazing how much affect on us a few idiots with box cutters had.
I really take offensive at this. But, not at you.

The Wasab Cult attacks Americans directly and you say, a few idiots with box knives. And when it happened, none of us thought that.

The next time it happens, small pen knives and cork screws come out and we fight.

Anyone I see cutting a stewie's throat, I will eat theirs with my incisors. This can only happen once to Americans. And even the first time, on one plane, they had time to react appropriately. The world still thinks we are fearful, after that. For this we thank our top notch National Operational Deception.
 
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ginwilly

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I really take offensive at this. But, not at you.

The Wasab Cult attacks Americans directly and you say, a few idiots with box knives. And when it happened, none of us thought that.

The next time it happens, small pen knives and cork screws come out and we fight.
We won't have a next time using the same methods, we secured the doors (why didn't we think of that before)?

But I agree that if it were tried again "we" fight to the death to stop it. I doubt people sit still knowing what they are capable of now. People on board the planes that hit the towers probably thought they were going to Cuba or something.
 

Doer

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So much deeper than that too. It divided the country along partisan lines. It caused a domino affect of our privacy rights being eroded. It lead to us printing trillions more dollars to recover and doubling our debt.

The 3000 lives were a terrible thing, but the overall impact was so much more. I'd say we lost that one. We live in a different country since 9/11.
You bet. A much, much safer and more focused country despite the real idiots that say we were not attack by Islam. Oh hell yes, we were attacked by Wasab Sunni Islam.
 

Doer

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We won't have a next time using the same methods, we secured the doors (why didn't we think of that before)?

But I agree that if it were tried again "we" fight to the death to stop it. I doubt people sit still knowing what they are capable of now. People on board the planes that hit the towers probably thought they were going to Cuba or something.
Well, if you have a plane full of cattle that just sit there and let the flight crew be executed, one by one, the Pilots will open the doors. There are surely sleeping with some of them, or want to.

So, it is not the doors, it is the Balls. The Pilots are only human and may lack resolve of this kind. And the Royalist Do-gooders support Inner Jihad and many of our own leaders are after our Balls and the Pilots'.

I don't think anyone will assume they are taken for ransom, again. So right about that.

And the two others, underwear and shoe bombers, were first apprehended by the American seat mates. I guess they don't train initiative anywhere else. Or perhaps our Deception that we are such weak wimps, worked and they underestimated us.

Remember men, we all wear belts. Buckle end, apply a 6" inch, short stroke to the face. The long end around their necks. Pull them up over your shoulder, back to back.
 
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cc2012

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The People have seen nothing yet, imho, It WILL get much worse, and the Idiot Do-gooders and dumbass Leaders of Governments will allow this to happen in the Name of Religion, In the name of being Politically Correct, They will allow ALL things to pass and then think WTF!! When it truly kicks off and they are Powerless to stop it, I'd be quite happy for ALL Religion to be banned(will never happen) Funny thing is I don't see other Religions OR said followers of that Religion receiving a third of the support, funding, Change Your Country from Within or else sort behaviour...but Hey as long as some White Christians did it Waaayyyy Back then that's OK, We're sorry...do Carry on Regardless...oh You do anyway...

Female jihadis publish guide to life under Islamic State.
Josh Halliday - the Guardian - Thursday 5 February 2015 10.08 GMT

English translation of Isis women’s manifesto is published by all-female al-Khanssaa Brigade


The all-female al-Khanssaa Brigade in Syria. Photograph: unknown/Syriadeeply.org​

Girls can marry at the age of nine, should ideally have husbands by 16 or 17 and should not be corrupted by going to work, according to a treatise published by female Islamic State supporters in Iraq and Syria.

The document, Women of the Islamic State: Manifesto and Case Study, says women must stay behind closed doors and leave the house only in exceptional circumstances.

“It is always preferable for a woman to remain hidden and veiled, to maintain society from behind this veil,” the English translation says. Fashion shops and beauty salons are denounced as the work of the devil.

The semi-official Islamic State manifesto on women – believed to be the first of its kind – was published on a jihadi forum in Arabic last month and is purported to be by the media wing of the al-Khanssaa Brigade, an all-female militia set up by Islamic State (Isis).

It has now been translated into English by the London-based counter-extremism thinktank Quilliam Foundation.

The introduction to the treatise says it has not been sanctioned by “the state” – meaning Islamic State – or its leadership but is a document to “clarify the role of Muslim women and the life which is desired for them” and “to clarify the realities of life and the hallowed existence of women in the Islamic State”.

The manifesto says: “From ages seven to nine, there will be three lessons: fiqh (understanding) and religion, Qur’anic Arabic (written and read) and science (accounting and natural sciences).

“From 10 to 12, there will be more religious studies, especially fiqh, focusing more on fiqh related to women and the rulings on marriage and divorce. This is in addition to the other two subjects. Skills like textiles and knitting, basic cooking will also be taught.

“From 13 to 15, there will be more of a focus on sharia, as well as more manual skills (especially those related to raising children) and less of the science, the basics of which will already have been taught. In addition, they will be taught about Islamic history, the life of the prophet and his followers.

“It is considered legitimate for a girl to be married at the age of nine. Most pure girls will be married by 16 or 17, while they are still young and active. Young men will not be more than 20 years old in those glorious generations.”

The western model for woman has failed, the treatise says, with women who go to work taking on “corrupted ideas and shoddy-minded beliefs instead of religion”. “The model preferred by infidels in the west failed the minute that women were ‘liberated’ from their cell in the house,” it says.

The manifesto includes a lengthy condemnation of the culture of the “disbelievers of Europe”, urging its readers to disavow “falsity and materialism in civilisation” and to devote oneself instead to religious knowledge.

The ideal Islamic community, it says, should not be caught up with “trying to uncover the secrets of nature and reaching the peaks of architectural sophistication”. They should instead concentrate on the implementation of sharia law and the spreading of Islam.

In a section entitled: “How the soldiers of Iblis [the devil] keep women from paradise”, the authors take aim at the western lifestyle that encourages both men and women to gain an education and employment. The manifesto denounces the wearing of fashionable clothes and piercings, concluding: “This urbanisation, modernity and fashion is presented by Iiblis [the devil] in fashion shops and beauty salons.”

It is the “fundamental function” of a woman to be in the house with her husband and children, the jihadi guide says, adding that they may leave the house to serve the community only in exceptional circumstances – to wage jihad when there are no men available, to study religion, and female doctors and teachers are permitted to leave but “must keep strictly to sharia guidelines”.

“Yes, we say: ‘Stay in your houses’, but this does not mean, in any way, that we support illiteracy, backwardness or ignorance,” the English-language translation reads. “Rather, we just support the distinction between working – that which involves a woman leaving the house – and studying, as it was ordained she should do.”
 
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