It's All Bullsh*t

Dan Kone · Nov 16, 2011

wheezer said:
Daaaaaan!! what's up bro? been missin your garden pics....

Yeah, sorry about that. I kinda flaked on my thread half way through. Still trimmin it all up now. Got lots and lots of yummy lemon thai kush, The c99 turned out pretty decent. The grapefruit went full on hermie on me and I ended up yanking the whole thing. I got crazy leaf blight when I failed to correctly ID until it was too late and it totally crippled my harvest.

I'm in the process of tearing down the old ghetto greenhouse now and about to replace it with a legit sealed greenhouse.

jyermum · Nov 16, 2011

Lemon Thai Kush sounds like a wet dream.

Dan Kone · Nov 16, 2011

jyermum said:
Lemon Thai Kush sounds like a wet dream.

It is. There really isn't anything else like it. It's unmistakable.

Gopedxr · Nov 18, 2011

That sounds terrific! Hope your goin to the party wouldent be the same with out dan kone him self! haha I guess wheezer had a good turn out and most of us this year! Cheers!

snowdog203 · Nov 18, 2011

High ku Bee Q
Just to let you know.
The trunk dude, let it dry out.
And use it in your smoker.

brandon727272 · Nov 19, 2011

Dr. Greenhorn said:
fdd doesn't look like anything I pictured him too be. he threw me off with the one pic of him kneeling by his outdoor plant. he was skinny in that pic and had "young boy" shoes on, like Vans or something, lol. didn't see a face till stickam.

edit.. lol, talking about the pic, it's a few posts above I guess he wasn't wearing vans, just slippers and a starter sweats

You saw fdd on stickam??? Hahaha how'd you know it was him?

Dr. Greenhorn · Nov 19, 2011

brandon727272 said:
You saw fdd on stickam??? Hahaha how'd you know it was him?

he made a stickam acct for blowing glass and linked it to a thread he made. he still does the stickam thing, I think he was actually on this morning blowing glass. he still has the link floating around somewhere.

Dan Kone · Nov 19, 2011

Gopedxr said:
That sounds terrific! Hope your goin to the party wouldent be the same with out dan kone him self! haha I guess wheezer had a good turn out and most of us this year! Cheers!

I'll try to make it.

fdd2blk · Nov 19, 2011

brandon727272 said:
You saw fdd on stickam??? Hahaha how'd you know it was him?

- http://www.stickam.com/faded_glassworks

i usually have the camera on when i'm into a long session.

kevin · Nov 19, 2011

fdd2blk said:
they grow themselves. just water them with food. that's it. the nute industry has gotten us. boosters and bloomers and carb load and sugars. it's all bullshit. this is a simple plant. it has been genetically bred to produce the finest product. why will no one believe in the genes. let the plant do it's own thing. i'm not adding sugars or enhancers. why? it prime weed already. so much goes into breeding yet they lead you to believe you need all these products to produce. it's bullshit.

after buying into all the bullshit i'm back to the basics and my plants are loving me for it.

PetFlora · Nov 20, 2011

It took me a few years, but I agree. It's MOSTLY BS.

This grow (HPA /LPA/Soil in APs) I went with all DM Gold Nutes and additives. I only have one complaint- $$$$. Thankfully, I came across a reply in a DIY Nute forum that opened my eyes. Basically, he said there isn't a whole lot of difference in grow and bloom nutes, plants will take what they need and leave the rest, and, that ambient temps/humidity have a lot to do with the ratios. So, I bought 4 liter jug of DM ONE- Grow, and a liter of DM Potash+, which contains P + K + micro nutes: Boron, Copper, Manganese and Zinc. This will be added to ONE Grow during flower. Amounts to be adjusted based on where in bud development. Pretty simple. WINNING

PetFlora · Nov 20, 2011

Dan Kone said:
container size does make a big difference. Sure, you can maximize the size of a plant in a small container, but it's much more difficult and prone to major health issues.

Grow a plant with decent soil in a large container and you're likely to get a big plant. The size of your root mass matters very much.

It certainly matters in soil, but check this out. I started this clone in a Sunleaves Super Starter cube in a DIY bubbler. I moved it into my HPA rig too soon and stunted the root growth to the tiny threads you will see in the photos. And yet somehow, it has grown to over a foot. Early this week I moved it back to the bubbler, to no result other than it has filled in a lot since taking this pic Tuesday. It blows my mind:

doser · Nov 20, 2011

fdd2blk said:
i'm glad this thread didn't just disappear into the archives.

From your lips to God's ears ....................or in this case....a bunch of potheads!!
Good advice , for the most part....minus the organic nonsense

grapeoptimo · Nov 21, 2011

doser said:
..minus the organic nonsense

#GTFO imo !

watchthethrone · Nov 22, 2011

I'm jealous. I can't wait until the summer so I can grow outdoors and not have to worry about lighting and shit

buckyboy · Nov 29, 2011

Been calling around looking for metanaturals nitrogen and phosperous and they keep telling me they ddont carry it anymore. Darnit.

buckyboy · Nov 29, 2011

fdd2blk said:
i used 1 part of each soil and 1 part perlite. i had 3 soil types so 25% perlite. hope this helps.

Did you just mix them all together, or did you layer it a certain way? I plan on using my old miracle gro soil in last years holes for the starter cups, mixing the old soil with some new mg soil for the 1 gallon and 3 gallon buckets(may add a little perlite), and then using your mix(might substitute fox farms with kellog patio plus) for the HUGE holes I've dug for late veggie/flowering stage. Going cheap this year. See what I can yield without spending my cash on "bullshit".

boneheadbob · Nov 29, 2011

Ive been looking for myco in the walmart/homepot/truvalue in town. They dont have anything and I have not checked Kmart. Might have to wait till spring or see if they can order some though.

Nice find!!! for all us KISS and KICS (cheap) growers.

Dan Kone said:
You can't make up for a lack of light with nutrients. I use mychorhizae, but not the crap they sell in hydro stores for $80 a tiny jar. Most of the benefitcial microorganizms in those are more beneficial for trees than for a plant w/ a 3 month life cycle.

I use this. http://www.kmart.com/shc/s/p_10151_...003a&ci_src=14110944&ci_sku=043V003342823000P

It costs about $20 and lasts me a year of indoor growing in a pretty decent size room. I buy a bag of it for outdoor too. The difference between that and the stuff that costs $80 for an ounce of it is marginal at best. Certainly not worth the cost.

As far as amino acids, I call bullshit on those. My plants stay perfectly healthy without them. Why do I need more nutrients when they are already healthy? If there is a deficiency somewhere, I address that deficiency. But just using A and B my plants stay healthy.

Keep your temperature steady, light good, enough nutrients that the plants don't develop deficiencies, CO2 high, branches braced, keep the bugs outs, and humidity low. Do that and you'll grow great bud. Craptastic snake oil will not help, those things will.

boneheadbob · Nov 29, 2011

doser said:
Good advice , for the most part....minus the organic nonsense

You cannot drop a stinker like that and walk away, we all know you did it, fess up and tell us why. :eyesmoke:

fdd2blk · Nov 29, 2011

buckyboy said:
Been calling around looking for metanaturals nitrogen and phosperous and they keep telling me they ddont carry it anymore. Darnit.

metanaturals quit making the grow formula for some reason. i have since switched to "Age Old Grow and Bloom" formulas.

buckyboy said:
Did you just mix them all together, or did you layer it a certain way? I plan on using my old miracle gro soil in last years holes for the starter cups, mixing the old soil with some new mg soil for the 1 gallon and 3 gallon buckets(may add a little perlite), and then using your mix(might substitute fox farms with kellog patio plus) for the HUGE holes I've dug for late veggie/flowering stage. Going cheap this year. See what I can yield without spending my cash on "bullshit".

i mix it all together.

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