I've been patient, but now I'm alarmed

itchyB

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Good day everybody. Today, my curiosity and lack of a similar experience caused by this one damn plant has caused my patience to run thin. Please don't be an ass and say "I'm so tired of people asking what sex their plant is instead of waiting" because I have waited plenty, and 2 weeks in flower I feel obligated to know what exactly this is so I don't possibly RUIN my entire grow! SEXING has never been an issuer for me in the past. It's always been so straight forward, but this plant is challenging me. I really just need other people's knowledge on it. It does have pistils, so I know for a fact it is female. But the question is is it also male? All of the pistil spots are only on new growth on top of the shoots, older nodes show a different side though. Hell, even 2 weeks ago I was ready to chop it off from seeing these parts but decided to wait!

To explain briefly, this plant has caused question for the last two weeks. I am now in week 2 of flower, so of course the majority of babies have shown me whether they'll be giving or receiving :lol: But this plant is showing possibly both? In the beginning, my initial thought was male first week of 12/12 because of the parts that strongly resembled a MALE. But I thought, whatever, i'll give it another week, because pre flowers can of course be somewhat unreliable. Week later and that notion is confirmed; the plant's newer growth shoots are showing pistils, but only out of obviously-shaped calyxes. However, below all of these pistillate parts, appears a node with a highly questionable, roundish-spade-shaped part. And theres at least 6 of these. I wouldn't be posting this if I knew the answer obviously. Never, in any of plants, have I ever seen a calyx that resembled a male so well, so I'm asking if you all think this plant is a hermie? Or am I still jumping the gun? Time is of the essence, so again please don't be an ass.. it would be irrational for a grower to not be alarmed by this no? Tell me what you think!

Heres 2 of the ones in question (They all look like that, but NONE of the pistillate calyxes hold that shape)



Pistils:
 
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itchyB

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Damn that blows , thank you guys on the quick reply. I have removed them now, is it safe to say they have not done any damage to my other females ?
 

420monster

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Damn that blows , thank you guys on the quick reply. I have removed them now, is it safe to say they have not done any damage to my other females ?
If the pods didn't open your fine if they did 50/50

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itchyB

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Well, they all pretty much look as the ones in the pics so I'm gonna assume and PRAY they are still closed !!
 

420monster

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There is a yellow dick inside if you don't see them your fine good thing you caught it ealier check for light leaks

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itchyB

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What do u mean by check for light leaks ?

EDIT: oh I know what u mean by light leaks , I'm good on that but last night coincidentally I accidentally kept the ceiling light on for like 2 hours after dark period started lol but other than that all good
 
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itchyB

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And I had another question , I kinda wanna keep the hermie gene for future experimentation and was thinking of taking a few clones of it . But what would happen if I only took clones on the sections where there's pistils? And since the sacs aren't ripe yet is there any process I can use to collect pollen (like chopping off a branch and bagging it?)
 

420monster

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Depending on how far developed they are you might be able to collect pollen but the problem with breeding with that pollen and taking clones is it will still carry the hermie traits with it

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itchyB

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this is probably going to take me some research to fully learn rather than getting you to spill all your knowledge haha but thank you so much on such timely helpful responses you're awesome! I will close with one more question (lol)
is it true that fertilizing a female with a hermie's pollen can create a fem seed? Like you said it can carrie the hermie gene but I swear I thought I had read that this method can create fem seeds
 

420monster

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this is probably going to take me some research to fully learn rather than getting you to spill all your knowledge haha but thank you so much on such timely helpful responses you're awesome! I will close with one more question (lol)
is it true that fertilizing a female with a hermie's pollen can create a fem seed? Like you said it can carrie the hermie gene but I swear I thought I had read that this method can create fem seeds
Fem seeds are hermies but hermies threw stress pollination carry a even higer chance of hermies about 90% the only way to get fem seeds it's forcing a plant to hermie not by stress but chemicals like silver or gilerbric acid and then many runs of stabilization and even then your risk of hermies is higher maybe like 20% reliable breeders (the pros) can give you about 90 fem 10% hermie but any way you look at it even reg seeds can hermie if they reach the stress threshold

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itchyB

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Thanks for the info I really appreciate it everybody .
It's funny because before I got into more complex growing and had that "drop a seed and water it" mentality is where I got the seed from this specific plant. It was from an outdoor grown plant whose buds happened to have a few seeds in it and I really liked the smoke so I saved the seeds from that plant. Originated bag seed. Maybe the mother plant I grew of these seeds was already a hermie , I'll never know now because I didn't put the work in at that time to inspect.
 

We Can Make Sandwiches

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Ive grown bagseed and it turned out fine with no seeds..luck of the draw really.

Yours however must carry the trait heavily..id ditch the beans and the strain..if the others goin are the same bagseed id keep an eye on those aswell. Otherwise youl end up with an entire crop seeded.

Get some reg beans find males and females and make your own cross that way if you intend to in the future.
 
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