JigFresh's Grow #2 : Vertical Scrog - closet diy dwc - 650w - Headband + Casey Jones

I appreciate the speech... it just shows you care. Can't really say I care right about now.

I do like the fact the broncos are 6-0.

Thanks a lot NS, tahoe, fred, robot, Dr. G... I appreciate your guys' support.

I just wanted to share with you all, becuase you are all my friends. Me and my wife had a great day out. We went to visit the Sequoia National Park. Got a look at General Sherman... he's the biggest tree on earth (by volume)... strange I know.

It was soooo beautiful. We stopped on the way to play in a river with a bunch of rocks around.

It was great.

I Love the Earth.

I was thinking of you a lot today tahoe.

The plants have been totally neglected lately.

I hope they forgive me.

Here's how they look as of 15 minutes ago.

In order they are Sour Grape, Purple Kush, Sour Grape, Casey Jones

Nice pics, I can't effin' wait to finish up my biology degree and move to Cali.

Nice day out, bet you had fun hiking around.


Thats a huge tree!!

nice pics of your day hiking around the trees and stream. I saved some for personal use.
happy october 22.

dude you were in my back yard and didn't even drop by

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dude you were in my back yard and didn't even drop by

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Well then. I didn't know where you lived, but now that I do... I'm coming over. We were just scouting things for a better longer trip. We agreed on camping. I thought tent, she thought cabin, haha. I have never been through that part of cali before.

I gotta say Tulare and Visalia are beautiful. I always thought of them as the more ghetto parts of Bakersfield... boy was I wrong. Farmland... real nice. I could totally see myself living there one day. However... the thought of growing up there doesn't strike me as fun, so we'll spare the kid. Maybe when the kids go to college, we'll set up base at the foot of those mountains.

Oct 22 was my wifes and I's anniversary. I made another pizza and took a pic of the final product this time (someone asked). I can't have cheese, so my half is naked.

Hulk, I had a great time. I'm going to see the bristlecone pines next. They are up near Bishop. You ever been?

Don... we got lots of room out here. You better start saving though... it's expensive.

Here's pics of the plants. I am going to start flowering them next week. Nov. 1 will be in the dark.

I keep forgetting to mention... I've had issues with Powdery Mildew on fan leaves... I've moved more fans in. Are there any other remedies?

I'm going to the hydro store tommorow for more fans, and to ask about a spray.

The plants look good and set up to me for flowering. I am worried becuase it looks too thin to me... like there should be more plant. BUT, I'm always saying you should undergrow rather than overgrow, so I guess this is a good thing. After all the point is to get direct light on all the buds, so if it were thick that would be impossible.

I just hope I haven't pulled too many fan leaves. Oh well.

pics are of PK, SG, SG, CJ



bonus pic of cats in a tub

jigfresh said:

Farmland... real nice. I could totally see myself living there one day. However... the thought of growing up there doesn't strike me as fun, so we'll spare the kid. Maybe when the kids go to college, we'll set up base at the foot of those mountains.

Oct 22 was my wifes and I's anniversary. I made another pizza and took a pic of the final product this time (someone asked). I can't have cheese, so my half is naked.

Hulk, I had a great time. I'm going to see the bristlecone pines next. They are up near Bishop. You ever been?

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Shit man theres no place like the mountains for a kid to grow up wish i lived out of the city, one day, oh and i have found some nice lots up around you for under 400k for 2 acers, cant wait tell the new house..............

.....Happy anniversary man, hmm half naked no kids that way


I go up to bishop as much as possible, really wouldn't even mind living there besides the summers gets hella hot would rather be up in the mountain's in bishop, me and my girl go up there at least once a year. Lots of nice lakes shit everything up there is nice!!!!!!!


The soil plants are looking allot better man i was worried for a little while just probably was a pic before watering, The screens dam the screens half full and are going to start popping with buds looking forward to that keep it up.

Those plants are looking good. They've gotten bigger pretty quickly. Keep up the good work.

Damn jig u and ur wife look like hobbits under that big ass tree.lol Ur roots look like they belong to one of those sequoyah's,Sooo more O2 for the roots=bigg ass roots

wow what a growth spurt great job jig kiu.

hey Jiggy, loving the pics! pizza looks sooo goood, why you gotta do that man, I'm jonesing for some pizza now! LOL

you got really beautiful cats and the plants are looking real good. much better than the last post. keep up the good work!
One Love

So you guys rock. You all made my latest youtube video all popular and stuff, and they want me to put ads up and get paid. How sweet is that? I feel very special.

Also, my wife rocks. Becuase she is getting my new bulb here faster. I ordered it on Oct. 15. It was out of stock at the time said it would be shipped in 7-10 days. It did in fact ship in 7 days. It was sent out Oct. 22. However, there is a new FedEx service called SmartShip. Which basically means it costs $9 instead of $11 and the delivery time is up to 8 days instead of up to 4 days. I would understand if they had this in any way listed under shipping options. All they had was Ground, USPS, and Overnight. I chose ground. Same cost as USPS. Excpet USPS would have had my package here by now.

The expected delivery date was Oct. 31. I called bulbs.com and asked what the deal was. Apparently they just changed to that service and have not gotten around to changing anything on the website. The man thanked me for calilng it to their attention.

I then asked my wife to call... I went outside. She came out 5 mintues later saying it would be here on Thurday, oct. 29. Yes only a couple days difference, but I wanted this light about a week ago.

So yeah, my wife rocks.

Now... The Bad News. Powdery Mildew is one of the worst problems you can have.

Damn.

I guess it's like a disease, so there is no getting rid of it completely... just keeping it at bay. I about fainted when I asked my hydro store guy what he would do. He looked me in the eye and said: "Seriously I would cut everything down, spray the room with 10% bleach, and try again."

Damn.

I got another fan. I also got some sulpher powder that is supposed to really help.

Worst case senario I figure I can just harvest mildewy buds and make everything into hash... the trich's don't get mildewy do they?

Man that would suck... but it would be wild to have a QP of hash.

that blows, where did the mildew originate from, you think?

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that blows, where did the mildew originate from, you think?

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There wasn't enough air circulation in the room to begin with... not that no wind is good, but it probably wouldn't have turned to mildew without:

1. Me spraying the plants with water often.

2. The leak from the roof raising the humdity so a day or so.

I don't beleive I brought them with the clones or anythig like that.

Just sucks not following the rules means I could blow a whole grow... but that's why you do what you should... so stuff like this doesn't happen.

My heart just broke at the thought of chopping those plants down and starting over.

I wanna research this powerdy mildew because I used to spray my plants down up to six times a day and tho I did get a schwag plant that had a mildewy smelling buds but nothing visible.

I just remembered while I was typing this the reason I kept it so humid. The church plant I grew loved humidity, the description from Greenhouse seeds said it could take upto 85%.

Hmm. I'll let you know if I find anything interesting on the mold thing.

I found this after doing a little reading on here. I don't know if this is practical or how you are at chemistry but check it out.
I've seen a lot of sulfur burn mentioned as well.






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Was reasearching PM and came across this article....Nice read....I think you can buy these blue crystals at homedepot


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Attention, not for novice or whiney gardeners. Do not attempt this if you are faint at heart. Do not attempt this if you are accident prone. And definitely do not attempt this if you need to ask someone what droopy or spotted leaves on plants mean.

Have a re-occurring mildew problem that just won’t go away? Tried everything on the market and am not convinced they work as well as they say? What are you to do? Make your own remedy of course. Now, we need to make an effective remedy that is so strong that you will see results the next day, safe for the plants when applied, leaves little or no residue when done, and is preferably consumed by the plants as a fertilizer while killing that dreaded white powder. Sounds too good to be true? If so stop reading, this post it is not for you.

Now the key ingredient we will be using is sulfur, not the solid form found in most mildew controlling agents as that’s highly ineffective and relatively useless, but a liquid form….one you will be making via chemistry.

What you will need is a source of 10% Sulfuric Acid, Peroxide, Copper, two 5 gallon cleaned plastic paint pails, a large colander, a sturdy plastic stir stick, some rubber gloves, a pair of eye protectors, and some non Anti-bacterial soap.

*10% Sulfuric Acid can be found as sink unclogging solutions which are readily sold in plumbing stores as well as Home Depot. Not all sink unclogging solutions are sulfuric acid but most are so you’ll have to read the labels.

*Peroxide can be attained at any pharmacy or any facility that sells cleaning reagents. The higher the concentration the better.

*Copper can be from copper pipes found in any plumbing store. Do not use pennies as it is illegal to destroy money plus they provide more contaminants than copper. It is also worth mentioning at this point that when selecting the copper source, look for one that is badly oxidized and avoid the really shiny ones. More will be explained later.

*Plastic pails, colander, gloves, soap and eyewear? Well you need not proceed if you don’t know where to get those items.

A brief description of what we are doing and then a step by step guide to assist you. The sulfuric acid will be diluted with pure water and mixed with peroxide and copper to form a copper sulfate ion solution. When performed accordingly, the constituents in the solution will be consumed and the solution will consists of nothing more than copper sulfate solution and water. The copper sulfate will be extracted and collected to make a spray solution to treat the infested plants. Both copper and sulfur are required micronutrients so what we are essentially using is a fertilizer to kill the powdery mildew problem.

Cu + H2O2 ==> CuO + H2O
CuO + H2SO4 ==> CuSO4 + H2O



Diluting Acid
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Make sure you are in a well ventilated area such as a garage when you do this step. Put your protection gear on and start by pouring 200 mL of sulfuric acid into your empty bucket. Then add 4 liters of pure water gently and carefully into the bucket. DO NOT ATTEMPT TO ADD ACID TO WATER---ONLY ADD WATER TO ACID. The immediate chemical reaction you will encounter will be that of enormous heat being released as the acid is diluted. The purer the acid the more heat is involved. I use a 99.9% pure acid and have no problems attaining temperatures of up to 100 C and higher. This exothermic reaction is so because of the purity of the acid. For chemical refineries to extract purer acid, their initial formula must be subjected to intense heat to purify. When the pure acid is diluted, it will release this intense heat back into the environment. At this stage, we need to stabilize the hot bucket and can do so by leaving it in a cool environment for about an hour. A laundry sink filled with cold water, a pile of snow, freezing outside temperatures,…be creative. It should be noted that if you use a less than sturdy plastic pail, you will have a meltdown situation.

Making the Potion
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Once the bucket is warm to the touch you may proceed to the next step. Now, sulfuric acid is one of the most corrosive acids on earth so try not to spill it all over the place as it not only consume metals but it will also incinerate wood, eat concrete, burn holes in your clothes etc….The Sulfuric acid (H2SO4) will consume the copper (Cu) but very slowly. This is so because the acid can only dissolve the copper if it is oxidized or CuO. To wait for copper to naturally oxidize would take too long for this little gardener so an oxidizing reagent is needed; peroxide. Add 500 mL of peroxide into the mixture gently and give it a good careful stir. (Whatever you used to stir the mixture with be sure to rinse off thoroughly later). After the stirring is complete, add about 250 grams of copper into the bucket carefully. The more surface area you can provide for the chemical reaction the better ie. Smaller pieces instead of one large chunk. You will notice the solution begin to turn blue. Move the bucket into an environment that is out of place and is around 20 C for the reaction to progress more effectively. Let it sit for a day until all the copper is dissolved. If after a day and there still remains copper, add more peroxide to facilitate the reducing. DO NOT ADD MORE ACID. The more blue the solution is, the better.


Extracting Crystals
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Now that you have a bucket of copper sulfate solution, it’s time to extract the copper sulfate out of the solution. This can only proceed if the solution is a dark royal blue color. This is a relatively easy step as it entails freezing the solution until the copper sulfate crystallizes. This can be accomplished, by placing the bucket into a freezer for a day or just by leaving it outside in freezing cold temperatures. If left outside, place a lid over the solution to avoid contamination with passing debris.

Collecting Crystals
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You will now see beautiful royal blue crystals formed all along the sides of the bucket much like those purple amethyst crystals found in the core of some rocks. If you don’t, you haven’t dissolved enough copper into the solution. Go back and add more peroxide and copper. The crystals will only form when the solution is saturated with CuSO4. With as little agitation as possible, carefully pour the remaining solution into another plastic bucket, outfitted with a colander, giving much attention not to disturb the crystal colony. A sudden avalanche here can be detrimental to your health. Gather and collect the remaining crystals into the colander and quickly rinse them in cold running water to wash off any excess solution. Do not rinse them for too long as it is unnecessary and will dissolve the crystals away. Store them in a plastic container. They will be wet, and shall remain wet as copper sulfate is a penta-hydrate, (each CuSO4 molecule attaches itself to 5 H2O molecule). It is also worth mentioning that the amount of crystals you receive will depend on the amount of acid and copper in the mixture as those are the key ingredients. The rate at which the copper is dissolved is controlled by the amount of peroxide present.

Making the Spray Solution
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The crystals are utilized by dissolving them into pure water again. Depending on the level of infestation, you should be using 1 to 7 grams per liter with 2 to 3 drops of soap as a wetting agent. Apply twice a week, for 2 weeks, 30 minutes before dawn. Spray until entire plant is completely wet including branches and stalks. Start low and work your way up to a higher concentration if needed. It can be applied from cuttings to the third week of flowering safely. Spraying anything, including pure water, after the third week of flowering will burn your trichs and turn them a dead brown color. You will see the powdery mildew infestation stopped immediately. Living PM looks soft and delicate and can be easily blown off with a gentle breeze. Dead mildew is nothing more than a hardened little white patch that may be removed with a firm rubbing of the fingers over the infested area. You will also notice the extra sulfur the plants consume will make them more resilient to the problem in the future. This solution will also kill other fungi and algae problems as well. It is not a controlling agent. IT KILLS THEM DEAD

Holy crap bro... that sounds like something to blow my house up with, haha. I really appreciate you checking it out... I have been researching too, but didn't see that... so it does help having more than one person on the case.

I think I'll use the powder I got and use it as a spray. It can be used as both.

I didn't say before, but I was actually really lucky I went into the hydro store when I did... becuase there was a guy there who had PM (powdery mildew) problems too. Now, I don't know how reliable your average other customer at the hydro store is, but this guy struck meas quite serious. Had a bad ass dog with him. He bred them. He had wild ass tats on his arms and such... looked like someone who did things right if you know what i mean.

So this guy had been talking with the owner for a long time about new equipment and stuff, and the owner started helping me. Directed me towards 'Serenade' spray... then this guy pipes in. He's said he didn't mean to take away business, but i really needed to get this specific product. I guess his giant nemesis for a while was PM and he said he did it all... and while some of it worked well, the stuff he put me onto fixed the problem... kinda like the article above says. It kills it (mostly at least, i know what does that even mean).

Anyways, he said it should keep it away for 3 mo. with one use. I think I'll use it a couple times. I think I can beat this... we'll see.

I'll take a pic of the bottle later and give you all the lowdown, so you can tell your poor friends what to use when they have PM issues... becuase none of you guys will ever have to deal with it... becuase you will learn from my mistake... RIGHT? yall better.

Here's a video to cheer us all up.

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Yea I can't say I would go with the mr wizard method if there is something you can buy. Funny how fate works out like that sometimes huh?

I got my fingers crossed for you.

It doesn't look like too much mildew in the vid. The soil plants are looking much better than they did before. And the hydro, man after seeing the difference of daily growth side by side with the soil I'm sold. I've been eyeing some plans i saw in an old issue of high times but it's a cross between aero and NFT not really hydro. Do you know anything about that? if it would grow at the about the same rate(or faster than soil?)

I'm sure jig will get the dreaded PM issue under control and enlighten us all.plenty to read about this PM.found a nice article with several productshttp://www.cannabisculture.com/v2/articles/2250.html