Joe Biden announces he is running for president in 2020

Padawanbater2

Padawanbater2

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Fogdog said:
What is wrong with the DCCC saying up front that their objective is to expand Democratic Party seats in Congress and then do exactly that?
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You are purposefully misrepresenting what the DCCC said because you know what they said opposes democracy

They said they will ostracize anyone who helps unseat a Democratic incumbent like AOC deseated Joe Crowley

Why'd they issue that memo? Because they don't want to see any more incumbents deseated through grassroots activism, like Joe Crowley..
 
Padawanbater2

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Dude wrote the 94 crime bill. Voted for Iraq, for NAFTA, for TPP, for deregulating the banks in 99..


Can you idiots pick a worse candidate? Dude lost twice already.. Fuckin desperate.

Sanders is surging, and the establishment has no one else who can put up a fight
 
Shua1991

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Padawanbater2 said:
You are purposefully misrepresenting what the DCCC said because you know what they said opposes democracy

They said they will ostracize anyone who helps unseat a Democratic incumbent like AOC deseated Joe Crowley

Why'd they issue that memo? Because they don't want to see any more incumbents deseated through grassroots activism, like Joe Crowley..
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Joe Crowley literally 2 months after losing his election had become a fucking lobbyist, the very people he was fired for representing over his constituents. When we say it is transparent, we mean these people dont even try anymore.


https://www.google.com/amp/s/nypost.com/2019/02/19/ex-congressman-joe-crowley-joins-top-lobbying-firm/amp/
 
Fogdog

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Padawanbater2 said:
First they said the DNC/DCCC didn't tip the scales. Now they say they have every right to because they're "private organizations"..

Gotta mention though, if the organization meant to elect the Democratic nominee cheated for Sanders, even though I support Sanders, I would oppose that process because it wouldn't actually be democratic. Because I'm actually principled. I support Democracy over Bernie Sanders.

These phonies support their candidate first over the democratic process, just like Trump supporters.
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You are confused. The DNC is nothing like or has any similar objective of the DCCC, It's too basic to explain, just look it up.
 
Padawanbater2

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Shua1991 said:
Joe Crowley literally 2 months after losing his election had become a fucking lobbyist, the very people he was fired for representing over his constituents. When we say it is transparent, we mean these people dont even try anymore.


https://www.google.com/amp/s/nypost.com/2019/02/19/ex-congressman-joe-crowley-joins-top-lobbying-firm/amp/
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Yeah, but the thing is, he's allowed to become a lobbyist, he's not breaking any of the rules set by the Democratic party...
 
Fogdog

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Padawanbater2 said:
You are purposefully misrepresenting what the DCCC said because you know what they said opposes democracy

They said they will ostracize anyone who helps unseat a Democratic incumbent like AOC deseated Joe Crowley

Why'd they issue that memo? Because they don't want to see any more incumbents deseated through grassroots activism, like Joe Crowley..
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uh,

no

They said they wouldn't work with any consultants who work on a primarying campaign. I mean, go figure. They are committed to growing the number of Democratic Party Congressmen, No reason to give work to people who have harmed your ability to do that. .Haven't you raved about Democrats losing seats? Well, then, they are working to grow. I don't understand why you don't want that too.
 
Fogdog

Fogdog

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Padawanbater2 said:
Should the party control the outcome of an election or the voters?

Seems very simple to me
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The electors, of course. What does that have to do with what a PAC does? If its the laws you don't like then change them. That won't happen with Republicans in charge. What part of that didn't you understand?

If you want campaign finance reform, vote Democrat.
 
hotrodharley

hotrodharley

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Uncle Joe has gotta go. Too bad his neoliberal ass jumped in. He’s a good old boy. Only problem is the job doesn’t call for a good old boy. Besides anyone older than me needs to step aside when it comes to this specific job. Heaven forbid Trump is impeached and Pence assumes office. Nothing worse than a self-loathing closet homosexual married to a Cub Scout den mother and who pretends to be a pious Christian.
 
Padawanbater2

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Herb & Suds said:
Im saying I will vote for anything with a "D"
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I'm with you on that. I just can't vote for anyone who chooses to cheat to win.

I'm curious about this. Would you guys rather win, even if it's by cheating? H&S? Would you rather Trump win fair n square or would you rather win by cheating, if we could get our agenda passed?
 
Moses Mobetta

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How can we have all the lying and cheating without all the lying and cheating which is all we get with trump. It's everything we don't want. The question defeats itself
 
Padawanbater2

Padawanbater2

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Moses Mobetta said:
How can we have all the lying and cheating without all the lying and cheating which is all we get with trump. It's everything we don't want. The question defeats itself
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We are held to a different standard than Republicans. It's not fair, but that's how it is. We have to rise above it.
 
Rob Roy

Rob Roy

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Padawanbater2 said:
Should the party control the outcome of an election or the voters?

Seems very simple to me
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False dichotomy.

Neither a political party or a group of voters, have any right to force their will on other people.

By changing who gets to chose the master you don't eliminate the master.

 
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