Joe Biden announces he is running for president in 2020

schuylaar

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Crumbs for the gullible.
It was only 3 years ago when you were considered a heretic to be thinking thoughts of college, medical and a living wage.

What changed for creepy uncle joe to be the spoiler? Another clintonite establishment move and we'll be stuck forever..
 

Moses Mobetta

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On the bright side, I'm sure we're all very pleased because Hillary would have been so horrible. What we have now, making America great and all. I'd vote for her again, I'd vote for Jill Stein if it would avoid what we suffer with now.
 

Fogdog

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It was only 3 years ago when you were considered a heretic to be thinking thoughts of college, medical and a living wage.

What changed for creepy uncle joe to be the spoiler? Another clintonite establishment move and we'll be stuck forever..
wow, that's one distorted memory. Making up victimhood over something that never happened.
 

schuylaar

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Sanders is already running; Biden brings nothing new to the table except to be the establishment spoiler and the last to announce because he has too many 'roadblocks' to consider..his voting record speaks for itself..the pictures with children- the most damning whether nor not anyone cares to admit..as a mother, i'd be vomiting in my mouth to vote for that freak.

the voters booth is private for a reason.

Polls, Henny Penny's? :lol: Biden's numbers will never be higher than when he announces- this goes for all candidates and is a proven fact.
 

Fogdog

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Yet more reasons not to nominate Joe Biden for President. File this under same shit, different face;

https://www.truthdig.com/articles/ukraines-powerful-rebuke-to-american-hegemony/
Wow, that was really, really uninformative.

It was also a reach. Kevin Zeese had nothing but a leap of faith to justify his conclusions about Biden. I see that Zeese makes similar leaps of faith when he looks for reasons to back Daniel Ortega. Your link was not a lie, nor was it propaganda. It was simply poor reporting.

Getting back to your claims that "Democrats are why unions have declined". Did you know that strong support from unions will be decisive as to which candidate wins the nomination? Biden certainly is making his case to them. Unions are strong supporters of Democrats. Candidates for the Democratic Party are all over unions and union issues. They need their votes to win the nomination. Unions are strong supporters of Democrats in Presidential and other elections. Why would they be pro-Democrat if they are behind the decline in unions? Your claim about Democrats and unions doesn't hold water.

For example:

https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/silver-bulletpoints-the-union-vote-could-swing-the-election/

Silver Bulletpoints: The Union Vote Could Swing The Election

In 2016, unionized workers were essential in helping Hillary Clinton maintain her lead over Bernie Sanders. Although a handful of major unions endorsed Sanders, most of the biggest ones — including the NEA, the SEIU, AFSCME, UFCW and the UAW — endorsed Clinton. And while some of those unions’ members defected to Sanders, Clinton mostly held the support of their rank and file, with Clinton winning union voters 62-36 over Sanders, per the Cooperative Congressional Election Study.

So it’s not surprising that Joe Biden kicked off his campaign on Monday by touting his endorsement from the International Association of Fire Fighters. It’s also not surprising that President Trump, perhaps sensing that Biden was encroaching on his turf, spent much of Wednesday morning retweeting accounts from firefighters who said they were planning to vote for Trump. Most union members voted Democratic in 2016 — but Trump did much better with them than Mitt Romney had four years earlier.

The International Association of Fire Fighters backed Trump in 2016, which is why their early endorsement of Biden stings Trump where it hurts. The article points out that Clinton "only" won the union vote by a margin of 16% while Obama's union support in 2012 was a whopping 34%. I get that 34% is better than 17% but no matter how that pie is sliced unions are a lot more supportive of Democrats.

You don't listen to black people when they tell you about issues that affect them or about what Obama did for them. You don't listen to union members when they are strong supporters of Democrats. You do listen to Venezuelan propaganda and post links to propaganda that supports the right wing agenda. This all makes me ask you again. When you use the word "Progressive" what do you mean by that?
 

Herb & Suds

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Sanders is already running; Biden brings nothing new to the table except to be the establishment spoiler and the last to announce because he has too many 'roadblocks' to consider..his voting record speaks for itself..the pictures with children- the most damning whether nor not anyone cares to admit..as a mother, i'd be vomiting in my mouth to vote for that freak.

the voters booth is private for a reason.

Polls, Henny Penny's? :lol: Biden's numbers will never be higher than when he announces- this goes for all candidates and is a proven fact.
In this era is it "ok" if I vote for a woman in the primary or do I step on too many toes ?
 

srh88

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Sanders is already running; Biden brings nothing new to the table except to be the establishment spoiler and the last to announce because he has too many 'roadblocks' to consider..his voting record speaks for itself..the pictures with children- the most damning whether nor not anyone cares to admit..as a mother, i'd be vomiting in my mouth to vote for that freak.

the voters booth is private for a reason.

Polls, Henny Penny's? :lol: Biden's numbers will never be higher than when he announces- this goes for all candidates and is a proven fact.
Gullible as shit. The right spreads the lie and you just accept it lol
 

schuylaar

Well-Known Member
Maybe if you spam us some more bernie will get to 12%, or at least not keep falling to 8%
perhaps you should stop using bucky math of -10% in your calculation..why do you hate college to educate, medical to keep us healthy and a living wage?

didn't i just read you 'had a kid and are dirt broke' to another member?

soon you'll be in liiving in Grand Junction buying a case of Mountain Dew and your carton living the Trumpy good life..far from that wretched life in Oregon- remember?

 
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