I don't care about racial makeup of constituency, so those are non sequiturs
"Bernie only attracted a majority of white male democratic voters. He only drew 20% of black voters, 30% of Hispanic voters and a minority of white women voters. How does your conspiracy square with the asymmetry of support for Clinton over Bernie? Are you claiming that white men are less susceptible to manipulation?"
Hillary was a household name. Well known as a first lady, her name recognition was very high. The clintons, while imo undeservedly, have high support amongst black Americans. I remember as a kid going to the barber in the Bronx and they had Bill clintons picture on the wall but not George's lol. If they knew how slimy he is and his total lack of character when the cameras go off. He was the first black president before Obama. Idk how but he had support. If you think a 78 yearold independent Democratic Socialist from Vermont would have similar name recognition to the first lady really begs the question as to what you think I'm basing my support on? they're willing to side with Republicans over progressives. Proto fascist Collaborators through and through. Dick Cheney and bush are war criminals, and these establishment fucks are doing everything to sanitize their existence.
"What actions can you point to that the DNC did to bias the election for Clinton?- "
Arey you claiming that a leaked debate question is all that was needed to give Clinton a 12% margin of the vote?"
incredibly disingenuous, while you paint yourself as some charitible honest actor. "I let it slide".
She lost. Grapple with that 12% democratic base advantage over a nobody no one has heard of till that year. That's how god awful a candidate they literally propped up to combat known con artist. The media carried trump to victory, they provided billions in free advertising and yet they seem to never learn their lesson. The DNC limited the debates, made them on a schedule where they were likely ignored as well to reduce optics of Hillary. Seriously. I believe it was all conscious on their part. The kid gloves she was treated with almost made that resentment of the talking heads even worse. How many of you were surprised she lost?
You claimed the DNC rigged the election but your reply addressed everything but that.
If the reason Bernie lost was DNC rigging, why the assymetry in who voted for him? THE ONLY group of voters in the Democratic Party that gave Sanders a majority were white men. Your conspiracy theory dismisses the ability of all other groups to make a decision for themselves. But white men weren't affected? Your theory has the whiff of bias. Also, you fail to show anything to prove you case in terms of actions by the DNC that caused Bernie to lose. He had full access to the offices of the DNC, full use of computer systems, databases (some of which his staff hacked into) and he reneged on his agreement to pay for that use. Yet he was never denied use of the offices of the DNC. Talk about kid gloves.
The other bit about "she lost", as if she lost all on her own by being an "awful candidate" is disingenuous. First, Trump won the EC but lost the popular vote by 3 million. So, no. Clinton ran a competitive, close race. She trounced Bernie fair and square, something Bernie's boyz dismiss with a baseless fake conspiracy theory. She lost by a few thousand votes in a few key districts to give Trump the nod in the EC.
I'm not blaming Sanders voters for the loss. 90% of people who voted for Sanders in the primary voted for Clinton in the general election, which is a historically high proportion of party faithfulness compared to past elections. I expect we'll continue to argue but rally around the party's nomination in the fall. What you do with your vote is your own decision but I don't expect many to turn their backs on the Democratic Party and allow Trump to win again as you claim. That is a childish threat that we have come to expect from the Cult of Sanders. Like your rigged theory, it doesn't hold up upon inspection either. :
"Give me Bernie or I'll give you Trump". fuck that. Bernie would have lost in a landslide if he had won the nomination.
In the upcoming election, I see a great, diverse field of candidates. I don't like either of the old white men in that lineup but will vote for either if they should win the nomination.
