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newatit2010

Well-Known Member
Am I the only stock holder of gm that didn't get a notice that the mother fuckers are giving union workers a 5,000 dollar bonus?
 

Carne Seca

Well-Known Member
Yay! I'd rather see the bonuses in the hands of common working folk than CEO's who don't deserve it. Only, CEO's get multi-million dollar bonuses. The last company I worked for voted the CEO to be paid every year for 5 years after his death. This includes bonuses and stocks. Millions of dollars. For one man. Molding and rotting in a grave. Congrats to the union workers. They actually deserve it.
 

Nikolaj06

Active Member
Yay! I'd rather see the bonuses in the hands of common working folk than CEO's who don't deserve it. Only, CEO's get multi-million dollar bonuses. The last company I worked for voted the CEO to be paid every year for 5 years after his death. This includes bonuses and stocks. Millions of dollars. For one man. Molding and rotting in a grave. Congrats to the union workers. They actually deserve it.
This is so true! The economic growth of a company doesn't come from the CEOs.. It comes from the workers! No value is created by administration...
 

dukeanthony

New Member
GM completed the repayment of its loans from the U.S. and Canadian governments by paying the outstanding balances of $4.7 billion and $1.1 billion respectively.
Whitacre was scheduled to meet separately with Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner and House Speaker Nancy Pelosi on Wednesday in Washington.
Meanwhile, Chrysler posted a $143 million operating profit in the first quarter and was on track to at least break even in 2010 on an operating basis with a stronger cash position.
 

feff f

Active Member
i could give a crap either way to tell you the truth.

but it was the true reason for the bailouts. thats exactly what conservatives said when they did it, and as evidence shows, thats exactly what it was, take taxpayer money and spend it to buy votes.

small business is the current target of this next round of tax increases obama is proposing. so he saved big businesses, mostly banks, and is gonna tax the shit out of the guys making $200,000 or more. this would drive the final stake in the heart of small business.(i doubt he will get it). and all that translates into the end of the middle class.

look around, historic housing forclosures, unemployment going up, more bailouts around the corner (europe). this pig is no longer wearing lipstick.

whats done is done.
 

dukeanthony

New Member
OMG a 3% hike on those making over 200K is gonna destry them

Thats like what?

A penny and a half for every dollar?
And its only on income above 200k?

Oh teh Noes
The job creators who aint hiring and have historic low taxes are going to go bankrupt over a few measly pennies
 

grizlbr

Active Member
This is so true! The economic growth of a company doesn't come from the CEOs.. It comes from the workers! No value is created by administration...
Census 330 million? Our economy if based on the money we spend weekly daily monthly in my case: one check a month. So when Marijuana becomes legal what will our business model be? A head shop, dispensary or someone on the corner? Money is changing hands somewhere or plant community property plants in Grant park in Atlanta. Legal at the federal leval controlled at state level. Or how to get couch lock into alcohol to prevent drunk driving? Is GNP figured at the cash register? Why a new Buffet Tax get the M/Billion he OWES! i DID NOT MIND THE 29.31% THAT CAME OUT OF MY CHECK WHEN I had a job! But why should the government play with my money until they decide I did not make enough and give it back April 14. so my money gets stepped on how many times before I get what percentage back? Forget about getting interest on it. GOVERNMENT NEEDS TO BE TEN% tax every thing the same at the cash register unless food and prescriptions are manna? Where I was the "Acting Chief" you worked the hours I scheduled you for or that was your last pay check. No hours you were laid off: Good Bye Big Government: Hello 50% UNEMPLOYMENT! How many people does that put on the corner selling what?
 

feff f

Active Member
OMG a 3% hike on those making over 200K is gonna destry them

Thats like what?

A penny and a half for every dollar?
And its only on income above 200k?

Oh teh Noes
The job creators who aint hiring and have historic low taxes are going to go bankrupt over a few measly pennies
No silly, what that means is instead of expansion with that 3per it will mean he lays a guy off.

Is this rocket science?

Then the guy he lays off, who is not making 200 k, doesn't have a job.

And with record foreclosures and big ears bailing out solyndra, what could POSSIBLY go wrong.
 

dukeanthony

New Member
No silly, what that means is instead of expansion with that 3per it will mean he lays a guy off.

Is this rocket science?

Then the guy he lays off, who is not making 200 k, doesn't have a job.

And with record foreclosures and big ears bailing out solyndra, what could POSSIBLY go wrong.
Ya whatever
Business people hire when they need more people to meet demand
If they dont sell
They dont hire
Sorry mr. moneybags aint gonna lay off a guy if it means he cant meet demand

any other idiotic economic theorys you wish to toss off to?
 

munch box

Well-Known Member
Ya whatever
Business people hire when they need more people to meet demand
If they dont sell
They dont hire
Sorry mr. moneybags aint gonna lay off a guy if it means he cant meet demand

any other idiotic economic theorys you wish to toss off to?
People look at more than what they sell. People need to make a profit. Obama raising taxes on people making 200,000$ a year is not going to make those small businesses hier employees. Raising taxes on corporate jets is not going to create jobs. The aircraft sales industry is doing terrible already as it is. And to double tax hedge funds as a capital gains tax is not going to make people invest either. Every time Obama talks about raising taxes, the unemployment/jobless claims go up. Thats a fact.
 

mame

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People look at more than what they sell. People need to make a profit. Obama raising taxes on people making 200,000$ a year is not going to make those small businesses hier employees. Raising taxes on coorporate jets is not going to create jobs. The aircraft sales industry is doing terrible already as it is. And to double tax hedge funds as a capital gains tax is not going to make people invest either.
Raising taxes is part of lowering the deficit, I thought Republicans cared about being fiscally responsible?
Every time Obama talks about raising taxes, the unemployment/jobless claims go up. Thats a fact.
Lol? Even if that were true, correlation does not equal causation; I'd like to see you prove the "correlation" and then I'd like to see you prove "causation", please.
 

munch box

Well-Known Member
Raising taxes is part of lowering the deficit, I thought Republicans cared about being fiscally responsible?
Lol? Even if that were true, correlation does not equal causation; I'd like to see you prove the "correlation" and then I'd like to see you prove "causation", please.
We lower the deficit by creating an atmosphere where the private sector will create jobs. Also the less government jobs we have the better our economy will be. We should reduce the size of bearacracy by 10% haircut off the top immediately. In California- 20%.Too many fake jobs, fake Czars, fake green jobs programs. The government invests money like a 5 year old would. Whats next are we going to have a department of cupcakes? If you don't have a permit the cupcake police will come and get you? This is fucking insane. Obama wants to raise taxes on oil, like its not taxed enough already. The middle class and poor people will suffer paying more money at the pump. Rich people can afford it. Poor people CAN't AFFORD these tax increases. Hasn't Obama made the middle class suffer enough already?

 

dukeanthony

New Member
We Lower business taxes anymore we might as well be paying them

Please provide a time in the last 60 years where business was taxed LESS
 

munch box

Well-Known Member
Lol? Even if that were true, correlation does not equal causation; I'd like to see you prove the "correlation" and then I'd like to see you prove "causation", please.
I can't find it. But it is a statistical fact. It would take me an hour to compile a data timeline on my own. You don't have to believe me, but if you can prove otherwise than I will admit that I'm wrong
 
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