Justice Department: NC bathroom bill violates Federal Civil Rights Law.

JCS57

JCS57

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CrocodileStunter said:
I am all for every single right for the lgbt crowd except the opposite sex going in the restroom with children. Maybe my views will change at some point. I just don't feel it's a good precedent to set.
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The precedent is exposed genitals = sexualization. Sometimes a dump is just a dump.
 
OddBall1st

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JCS57 said:
But what if they are born hermaphrodite? Try looking up intersex. Your black and white diffinitions don't really fit the natural world.
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There you have the exceptions to the rule. Not someone who just simply decides he is a she and makes demands because of it. People that oppose that kind of behavior are getting the,...Shut up and live with it from the Feds. Somehow ,..Shut up and deal with being different,.... is offensive though.
 
UncleBuck

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Rob Roy said:
That's a sad picture, but yet it doesn't rebut my argument. The gang of leering assholes and the douche pouring the stuff are in the wrong, IF they do not own the property AND assholes either way, but that is beside the point.

If you own property and somebody else decides how you will use it, or attempts to, you have the right to defend your property. You sometimes believe that, but then you disavow that belief when it suits you.

Also, it is fact that in forced segregation (legal segregation) and forced integration the element of government force is the primary means. Using force as a primary means to facilitate a human interaction is where the problem begins.

Your fixation on the emotion of a circumstance, doesn't give one party the right to determine how another person will use their property and their body.

So tell me who has the right to force a human interaction on property they do not own ? Do you?
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how are you forced to integrate?
 
UncleBuck

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Rob Roy said:
If a free market had been allowed, forced segregation (legally instituted) would not have occurred, people who wanted to interact could have.
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no one forced hotels to deny rooms to black people, that was a ce of business owners deciding how to run their businesses.

which is exactly how you want things to be done.
 
Rob Roy

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UncleBuck said:
how are you forced to integrate?
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I'll address that from a generic point of view rather than from a personal point of view.

An institution based in force, the federal government, redefined what private property was and reduced the level of control the ostensible owners of property had.
 
Rob Roy

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UncleBuck said:
no one forced hotels to deny rooms to black people, that was a ce of business owners deciding how to run their businesses.

which is exactly how you want things to be done.
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Plessy vs Ferguson

How I want things to be done is my opinion, but my opinion of how I would have other people interact ,doesn't grant me the power to determine how people must use their own property.


Where does this right you think that you have to determine the use of other peoples property come from? Can I determine the use of YOUR property ?
 
pnwmystery

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One day you'll tell your grandchildren how a trans person used a restroom, just once, and then entire modern civilization as we know it crumbled to the ground in an immoral-anarchist state and humanity was brought to its knees. Then again you've completely forgotten that men have used the women's restroom a multitude of times before, and vice versa, and no one ever gave a shit because this is literally the stupidest law and stupidest debate to ever happen in our country. North Carolina deserves to go bankrupt and Governor McCrory deserves to choke on this law.
 
Rob Roy

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pnwmystery said:
One day you'll tell your grandchildren how a trans person used a restroom, just once, and then entire modern civilization as we know it crumbled to the ground in an immoral-anarchist state and humanity was brought to its knees. Then again you've completely forgotten that men have used the women's restroom a multitude of times before, and vice versa, and no one ever gave a shit because this is literally the stupidest law and stupidest debate to ever happen in our country. North Carolina deserves to go bankrupt and Governor McCrory deserves to choke on this law.
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Please refrain from linking immorality to an anarchist state*. The two terms are often opposing and using them in concert perpetuates an oxymoronic myth, that "anarchy and chaos" are a foregone conclusion. Thank you.


Grandchildren? Next week I hope to begin my grandson's instruction about how he and he alone owns himself and that he doesn't own others.





*I am referring to an anarchist state of being, rather than the term "Anarchist State" which could also be a bit of an oxymoron.
 
UncleBuck

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Rob Roy said:
I'll address that from a generic point of view rather than from a personal point of view.

An institution based in force, the federal government, redefined what private property was and reduced the level of control the ostensible owners of property had.
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that did not answer the question in any way. not surprising.

in what ways are you forced to integrate in your daily life, klanman?
 
UncleBuck

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Rob Roy said:
Please refrain from linking immorality to an anarchist state*. The two terms are often opposing and using them in concert perpetuates an oxymoronic myth, that "anarchy and chaos" are a foregone conclusion. Thank you.


Grandchildren? Next week I hope to begin my grandson's instruction about how he and he alone owns himself and that he doesn't own others.





*I am referring to an anarchist state of being, rather than the term "Anarchist State" which could also be a bit of an oxymoron.
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if an anarchist like you fucks a 10 year old child, what recourse is there for the child and the parents of that child?
 
whitebb2727

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abandonconflict said:
Are you going to check everyone's genitals before they enter a restroom?
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I said that in the other thread. Who is going to enforce this? The bathroom police?

I have used the women's restroom before. One because I had to go and it was open. Two because I have children and sometimes the women's bathroom is the only one with a changing table.

I've had my daughter in the men's room. Got to do what you got to do when they are little and you got two or three with you. Take them all to the big stall.

What about my youngest son. We didn't cut his hair. People thought he was a girl a lot. The bathroom police going to check if he's got a penis?



Not one time in my life have I been violated in a bathroom, nor my kids.

Its a restroom. You don't think someone hanging around a restroom wouldn't draw attention?

I've been in places like hospitals where all the restrooms were for both sexes.
 
whitebb2727

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ky man said:
a man born a man will always be a man .no mater how much time gos by a man will be a man and also that man will go to hell for sticking his d up a nuther mans a8s..read the bible GOD destroyed a city over the same thing killing all.And your rite GOD will not let this crazey stuff go on much longer and he will come get his children and the gays will burn in hell,gays are sick people in the head and need help to try and get them out of there sickness..jmo and I will stick to it till the day I die...ky...there is no way gay people belive in the word of GOD...
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You know the bible says to keep church and state separate. Meaning keep church out of politics.
 
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srh88

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whitebb2727 said:
I said that in the other thread. Who is going to enforce this? The bathroom police?

I have used the women's restroom before. One because I had to go and it was open. Two because I have children and sometimes the women's bathroom is the only one with a changing table.

I've had my daughter in the men's room. Got to do what you got to do when they are little and you got two or three with you. Take them all to the big stall.

What about my youngest son. We didn't cut his hair. People thought he was a girl a lot. The bathroom police going to check if he's got a penis?



Not one time in my life have I been violated in a bathroom, nor my kids.

Its a restroom. You don't think someone hanging around a restroom wouldn't draw attention?

I've been in places like hospitals where all the restrooms were for both sexes.
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Cops are going to need a new group to harass once weed is legal
 
Rob Roy

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UncleBuck said:
if an anarchist like you fucks a 10 year old child, what recourse is there for the child and the parents of that child?
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Most disputes can be solved by abiding by some kind of property rights guideline, which has a basis in mutual respect and consent.

For instance, when you shit on the floor at Wendys without the permission of the owners you were clearly wrong, since it was not your property and you did not have permission to drop a steaming turd on the floor.

If you engaged a person, seeking sex with them, it would be out of line to assume consent unless it was clear that it was
a) a person capable of consenting
b) a person that did consent

So, in your question above, I'd need a bit more info. before answering, does your intended juvenile target possess the wherewithal to consent, ? Was your hand in your pants when you posed the question, pervert?
 
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