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kindprincess · May 22, 2007

i will; have it in the works

thanx mike! good to see you!

kp

kindprincess · May 23, 2007

ok, anyone able to coach me on how much epsom salt one would need for thirteen gallons of water in dwc?

i have a cal/mag prob, and i have the product ordered (i think, and hope) but i need to do something in the meantime, as shipping takes approx. ten days, and the spots are spreading like wild fire. roots are still growing at an alarming rate, and the plants are vegging great. but, the spots grow in number by the hour it seems...

please help, i'll start another thread if i have to...

potroast · May 24, 2007

So you are noticing this spotting during veg growth? That doesn't sound good. I've never used epsom, but I've read that it is used for a magnesium deficiency, so I don't know about calcium. MG deficiency will usually show up during flowering. Use epsom salts at 1/2 - 1 teaspoon/gallon. You should dissolve it in warm water before adding.

HTH :mrgreen:

Garden Knowm · May 24, 2007

I would drain the reservoir and start with a NEW mixture.. set the ppms to 300 and then pH your water... raise the PPMs every 1-2 days until the desired amount...

iloveyou

GoodFriend · May 25, 2007

so i don't know how i missed this thread

just read all 17 pages

i like the flip lip bucket for the dwc

would make refilling and maintenance a lot easier... not have to lift up a root mass everytime...
hows the progress with the plants?
oh an with the cfls... maybe think about having both a couple warm 2700 cfls mixed in with cooler 6000 ones just to make sure you have the full wavelength... but you know, only a couple warm ones cuz those puppies love the coooler wavelengths... but you know that... i know

just a thought

kindprincess · May 25, 2007

lumberjack_ian said:
so i don't know how i missed this thread

just read all 17 pages

i like the flip lip bucket for the dwc

would make refilling and maintenance a lot easier... not have to lift up a root mass everytime...
hows the progress with the plants?
oh an with the cfls... maybe think about having both a couple warm 2700 cfls mixed in with cooler 6000 ones just to make sure you have the full wavelength... but you know, only a couple warm ones cuz those puppies love the coooler wavelengths... but you know that... i know

just a thought

yeah, i know, i'm using cfl's from a previous grow, all stuff from around the house. i'm not planning on buying any cools, these are working just great! i'm realy impressed at how much the reflector helps...

thanx for posting!

kp

kindprincess · May 25, 2007

potroast said:
So you are noticing this spotting during veg growth? That doesn't sound good. I've never used epsom, but I've read that it is used for a magnesium deficiency, so I don't know about calcium. MG deficiency will usually show up during flowering. Use epsom salts at 1/2 - 1 teaspoon/gallon. You should dissolve it in warm water before adding.

HTH

yeah, i unknowingly bought gh three part with hardwater micro. my water is soft, and i don't have cal/mag (it's on the way), so i'm thinking that's where the problem started.

i'm hoping that my cal/mag will come in soon....

anyone know if you can use lime in dwc? i've used it in dirt, but what about water?

thanx!

kp

kindprincess · May 25, 2007

Garden Knowm said:
I would drain the reservoir and start with a NEW mixture.. set the ppms to 300 and then pH your water... raise the PPMs every 1-2 days until the desired amount...

iloveyou

i changed the res, my pens just came in, i'll pick them up when the cal/mag arrives...

i'm at 8ml per gallon of each, one tablespoon of epsom salts.

i miss ya knowmie, you should drop by more often!!!

kp

GoodFriend · May 25, 2007

well if it ain't broke, don't fix it

just hypothetically though, do you think it would be noticable differences in using the different color spectrums? or would it be fairly minute?

kindprincess · May 25, 2007

i think you'd get less stretch, and maybe bigger and greener leaves. i generally use all cool spec for veg. but, i'm not using my hid's due to the power issue. when i get the relay thing figured out, i'll run a 400w.

kp

GoodFriend · May 25, 2007

... wanna ship it over to me in the meantime?

... i could put it to good use, ha!

right...

potroast · May 26, 2007

kindprincess said:
i changed the res, my pens just came in, i'll pick them up when the cal/mag arrives...

i'm at 8ml per gallon of each, one tablespoon of epsom salts.

i miss ya knowmie, you should drop by more often!!!

kp

Well, from my recollection about GH Flora nutes, 8 ml/gal of each would make a soup with about 1300-1400 ppm. That's a pretty strong mix for vegging plants, unless you have a lot of everything else to support it. And you are using 3 times as much epsom salts as is usually suggested.

HTH :mrgreen:

kindprincess · May 26, 2007

i was following the label instructions for general use lite mix. that was 5ml per gallon, one tsp per gallon. i followed the advice of my friend, he said to up it to 8ml (1.5 tsp per gallon) and to use one table spoon of epsom salts per ten gallons. the veg mix on the label is 15ml of grow, 10ml micro, and 5ml bloom...

my bucket is 15g, so the salts work out to less than a tsp per gallon...

stickstones · May 26, 2007

kp...thanks for linking to this as well as the challenge grow! Great journal. I am a total noob failing at every turn, but this journal has inspired me! Maybe in four or five years I, too, can be a princess with proper hormone therapy.

btw, I noticed in your photos you use ph strips. Is this a ghetto aversion to a monitor or do you like them just as well? (I don't have either and am about to make a purchase.)

kindprincess · May 26, 2007

hi stix! thanx for dropping by!

i was about to abandon this thread....

i use ph strips because i'm waiting for my new ph and tds/temp pens to arrive. i'll be getting them at the same time as cal/mag, then it's on. i know what this pheno can do in soil, i know i can better that with this bucket...

the best deal i've found for ph pens and tds pens is at hygronomics.com in the general store forum. 35.00+5.00 for shipping each. i got the tds/temp pen, it was five dollars more i think...

kp

stickstones · May 26, 2007

Thanks...I'll check that place out. BTW, when you need a good laugh, check out my grow journal in the sig. Tell me if it was hard for you at first too, or if I should just hang it up!

kindprincess · May 26, 2007

no, don't give up, just stop screwing up, lol... i asked some q's, let me know the answers, and i'll see if i can find what the problem is.

kp

VictorVIcious · May 27, 2007

I like screwing up. I'm not a control freak.

stickstones · May 27, 2007

Thanks kp...I put some answers up on my thread and I really appreciate the help. I have spent the better part of the last two months researching and reading, so I've got some decent head knowledge. However, I have never grown anything before, and it's showing.

Hey VV...check out my thread in the sig. I've read good things about you, so please feel free to help me out!

kindprincess · Jun 1, 2007

time for new pix...

i upped the nutes to full veg strength, against my mentors' words of protest... it seems to have helped the ca deff...

they are getting very bushy now.......

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