Leaf damage? Dtw coco

medidedicated

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I really appreciate the help these are some crazy times. Maybe I never had it like that so now that its here in high concentrations it just will expose any plants that have my typical airflow conditions. It was scary how it grew in open areas too but they just had that muggy lack of airflow feel now that Im looking at mold in the tent. Otherwise it seemed fine.

Would you crank your dehuey up max or is 45% ok? That leads to 50-55 rh in tents if full but next time will probably be 45-50 as I intend to grow tiny plants. Better than nothing.
 

medidedicated

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Do you grow plants that have a thick inner canopy? Or very well opened up and exposed to all air? Just wondering how to grow it next, Im thinking start small work up in size. 30 day veg vs 60. Opened up head to toe mini size. I guess I have tons of botritus too so cant grow fat colas. I grew the fattest colas ever this run and it failed which is another issue, rh dont fix, popcorn buds do though.
 

medidedicated

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Holy cow sometimes I have to re read something several times which I just did, thats scary and why I suggested I just grow from seed just keep using the same strain maybe learn how to make my own regs which I heard are better anyway in the herm dept.

I dont understand this part though:

Also, you can take huge clone\s off your mother plants via AL, so your not wasting as much when you toss her out to replace with a new one. Basically take the biggest branch, or upwards of 50% of the plant at once if you want. Like cutting her in half, so you can toss the old medium that might be harboring even more spores or gnats and whatnot.

Like tossing the bottom half every now and then to refresh the medium its in? Wasting what? I thought clones being more disposable is less wasteful I just plain dont understand lol. Is there another way to put that? I might of understood but idk what you mean by wasting.

Also I notice a botritus like mold that can grow on the stem on the shaved nodes that were too close to the cut of the cutting. Mycelium I think in the root riot but ya. Any concern? Im starting to lean to testing fresh beans as thats what I did until now and never saw botritus or pm before other than my first failed grow.
 

medidedicated

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Im getting the bbfus this weekend that was a awesome suggestion thanks, I look at my airpurifier Im borrowing and thinking damn. Just from the side can see its just a weak ass version of what Im about to make. Now how to hang them.. Probably same things youd use to hang a light and fan filter.
 

medidedicated

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Man Im really considering it. I dont think its good to perpetuate those problems I can just start fresh each time with fabric pots and panty hose on both sides with dripper and main stem as shut as possible. A rubber band like you said as it thickens up.

Is my mother stock even worth saving.. I can keep my test method as clearly it works and end up with a small amount of stuff I love or hate then buy more beans.. Theyll love that lol.
 

Drop That Sound

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I like to scrog with trellis nets and have wall to wall budsites with as evenly trained canopy as possible. I generally FIM the new growth shoots so often like an OCD madman that I have upwards of 100+ smaller budsites per plant (and sore thumbnails), to help mitigate any bud rot from forming in bigger colas. I like bigger slightly revegged\mutant air layer clones the best, because they grow so bushy from the start with lots of lateral branching which makes it easier to scrog out and control flower formations. I know the pain of finding big moldy buds all too well, so I don't really miss them, and rather trim pounds of smaller uniform nugs than deal with botrytis ever again.. I usually run the dehuey on continuous mode the whole time once they start to stack up toward the end, and don't like to take any chances without it.
 

medidedicated

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Then the brown rootball issue.. Gonna get rid of the rootbound by using 1gal fabric pots with panty hose in the pot and outside of it, idk how the drip will work. Ive clipped a flora flex clip and tube with splitter just on a fabric pot before. Gonna do it asap Im dying to flower already lol.
 

medidedicated

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This a good pair? Also is ozonated water made with a ozone machine a good way to IPM or handle a outbreak or is that a no go? Just wondering as I was watching something about it. Is any filter good thats merv 8 for mold spores? Will amy of these two brands do?
 

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medidedicated

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I see now hepa is the best I just am trying to find the cheapest yet the best so it dont cost more than it should. Will have to look later.
 

Drop That Sound

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Any of those 20" box fans are good. I usually find cheaper ones locally at the stores when they go on sale for around $20, but the plastic does seem kinda chincier on them. Lasko brand if I remember right.

I would spend a little more and go for the 6 pack of merv 13 rated filters. Not too bad of a deal in bulk @ under 10 a piece. They will for sure filter out most of the particles in the air, and don't put too much strain on the fan motor. The higher the merv rating, the more restrictive they are, but finer the particles they scrub.
 

medidedicated

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So I might try what one did using paint strainer bags instead or you think panty hose are fine enough? I doubt it and looking for solutions asap I think Il buy some. Maybe raise the fabric pot on something so the roots cant poke through. As far as I see they worked they cant get in or out which is good enough for me to try.
 

medidedicated

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Just realized the challenge is wrapping it up in clone state fresh from cloner. I dont have issues there though its when I flip to flower roots brown and get infested with gnats. Im so tired of it I want to toss all plants and start again besides the moms. Its hopeless to flower knowing thats gonna happen too.

Maybe I can get away with letting them thicken up first for 30 days and flip after wrapping. I worry the sac of panty coco will have poor water flow and harbo shit too doing inside and outside, maybe just do outside. That stretching them to fit a gallon pot might open holes for gnats idk maybe try both. A complete restart is in order besides the moms.

The moms may have to go too if its just that much easier to have hopeless flower runs bringing me back to square one. I have to possibly feed less than 5x a day too.
 

medidedicated

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Now I see it that way I think Im gonna just pop beans and test what I said on them instead and see how that goes. I think the whole clone game is a dud for me. Im ending up with zero so Indont even care of the benefits anymore.
 

medidedicated

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Thats awesome that worked for you in scrog and wall to wall growing and monster cropping. I hated the idea of downsizing my plants but asked just wondering how you grow. Some people prefer smaller but more plant counts that are like my mini clones but much bigger. I have to follow plant count though but with beans I could try doing 12 at a time thats a plus of ridding mothers.
 

medidedicated

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I saw a light green mold growing on a snipped cola on the scabbed wound of stem. Weird white mold that looked like trichomes. I think my moms went rancid and like you say we only know of few of many strains that effect cannabis. Idk lol. Im ok with losing them and just growing beans.
 

medidedicated

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Damn cant wait to get back on my feet. I pulled a drawer out of this stupid dresser good for nothing. It fell right out and had my hash jars big jars used to be full and one still is half way full basically all my hash. One jar broke but my hash one didnt I got so lucky. Idk if little micro shards of glass is good to dab.

I really want this banana hash I want to grow a couple clones. I have high hopes as those fans are really strong they move air across a room and being in a tent its going to be very breezy. So far no PM on the moms with fan on them. No PM on my mini clones. If I get back to where I was with just fans thats awesome I owe you one. This banana hash is gonna be nannas.
 

medidedicated

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So I was sure I found a pm spot on the mini flower clones but as I look up close with scope I cant tell. I want to say yes but at same time I never seen it that close up. I wouldnt be suprised and expected it but just wasnt getting infected. Not much air flow so it was guarenteed yet not really attacking it like crazy if at all.

The lighting in there is hard to see it with but can see every leaf and checking daily. Does pm have long strands? Some look like resin idk lol. Will just see if I can go two more wks maybe 3 will see. I rubbed the leaf against itself on another leaf just seeing what it does so its not as bad as it was which damn I wish I did this first to show yall better.

Its weird anything I can point out is anywhere else on the leaf too but what had me convinced is lighting from the side makes it look fuzzy. So damn it might of gotten it but lets see what happens.
 

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Oh yeah I seen that strainer bag gnat experiment recently. I noticed the holes looked like they might be wide enough for the flyers to crawl through. It worked though!? I was thinking dang, he shoulda used panties or something with a finer mesh fabric instead...
 

Drop That Sound

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The fabric bag + mesh or panty hose sounds like a great idea. I'm surprised one of the grow equipment vendors hasn't already designed a new fabric grow bag that has the lighter bug proof fabric net sewed right in at the top rim, like a collar going all the way around, and come with little rubber twisties or something to wrap around the plants to keep them all out.
 

medidedicated

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Ok so you think the panty is better, noted. Will for sure try it I just thought when stretched it can open more than a solid mesh nylon or whatever to hold its grid. Will try both.
 
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