Leaf Miners

tylerdurz

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Every year no matter how big the plant is I get leaf miners. They are the worst to try and get rid of. Anyone else have this issue outdoors abs how to you keep them from coming back all the time.
 

Booger mama

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Every year no matter how big the plant is I get leaf miners. They are the worst to try and get rid of. Anyone else have this issue outdoors abs how to you keep them from coming back all the time.
I have not had this problem yet but there's a great article about it on the Royal Queen seeds site. They suggest using ladybugs. You can buy unhatched ladybugs at tons of garden Stores. And neem oil is their second choice. Spray it on the affected leaves. I personally spray on the underside of my leaves and on top of the soil after each water. Adding a little to your water overtime supposably helps to make the roots fungus proof too. Good luck!
 

Rainbow Warrior

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I have not had this problem yet but there's a great article about it on the Royal Queen seeds site. They suggest using ladybugs. You can buy unhatched ladybugs at tons of garden Stores. And neem oil is their second choice. Spray it on the affected leaves. I personally spray on the underside of my leaves and on top of the soil after each water. Adding a little to your water overtime supposably helps to make the roots fungus proof too. Good luck!
What’s the ratio of neemoil to water?
 

Rob Roy

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Leaf miners are the larvae of leaf eating insects and can be from several different species. They leave squiggly lines on the tops of leaves as they chomp thru.

A little neem concentrate (two or three tablespoons ) with a few drops of dish soap for a surfactant diluted in water in a 24 oz spray bottle will harsh on their mellow.
 

Rainbow Warrior

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Leaf miners are the larvae of leaf eating insects and can be from several different species. They leave squiggly lines on the tops of leaves as they chomp thru.

A little neem concentrate (two or three tablespoons ) with a few drops of dish soap for a surfactant diluted in water in a 24 oz spray bottle will harsh on their mellow.
Thanx for that, much appreciated
 

Booger mama

Active Member
What’s the ratio of neemoil to water?
I'm so sorry it took so long to get back to you. I had a crazy weekend and didn't follow the Rollitup Forum like I usually do. It looks like you got some good help anyway, Rob Roy's comment is excellent advice. I myself have not tried the dish soap mix however I've heard of it being successful. Keep us posted and good luck!
 

BrewersToker

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Ladybugs are the shit! Saw my first one yesterday and my son and I spent 10 minutes trying to get it to the garden.They are incredibly efficent and love their job.
 

ky farmer

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Leaf miners are the larvae of leaf eating insects and can be from several different species. They leave squiggly lines on the tops of leaves as they chomp thru.

A little neem concentrate (two or three tablespoons ) with a few drops of dish soap for a surfactant diluted in water in a 24 oz spray bottle will harsh on their mellow.
how do you get water to mix with oil.neem oil that I have used was useless and after you put neem oil on a plant nothing ealse will stick to your plant when you need smoothing that will work for other things..NEEM OIL has never helped me in the past and I would never use it again,thats just how its been for me but I do hope it works for you.
 

pthobson

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how do you get water to mix with oil.neem oil that I have used was useless and after you put neem oil on a plant nothing ealse will stick to your plant when you need smoothing that will work for other things..NEEM OIL has never helped me in the past and I would never use it again,thats just how its been for me but I do hope it works for you.
It works great. And it doesn’t really mix too well. When spraying it make sure to shake the mixture around frequently and spray the plant, soil etc and let sit for a couple days. After a couple days I take plain water and spray to rinse any residue left behind. I do this every couple weeks regardless if I see anything or not. (I am indoor though). I don’t do this in flower at all. I do spray around the tent a little though in flower.
 

FresnoFarmer

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how do you get water to mix with oil.neem oil that I have used was useless and after you put neem oil on a plant nothing ealse will stick to your plant when you need smoothing that will work for other things..NEEM OIL has never helped me in the past and I would never use it again,thats just how its been for me but I do hope it works for you.
Mix it with a silicate product like dyna gro pro-tekt or a biodegradable dish soap. It acts as an emulsifier and surfactant. The ratio for neem to dish soap is 2:1.
 

ky farmer

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Mix it with a silicate product like dyna gro pro-tekt or a biodegradable dish soap. It acts as an emulsifier and surfactant. The ratio for neem to dish soap is 2:1.
dish soap makes sprayes of any kind water proff so it will not wash off if it rains.i was tought that by a man that works and sells fruit tree spray.With out adding a few drops of dish soap it will wash off when in rains that's why they tell you to use dish soad on weed killer.
 

waterproof808

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dish soap makes sprayes of any kind water proff so it will not wash off if it rains.i was tought that by a man that works and sells fruit tree spray.With out adding a few drops of dish soap it will wash off when in rains that's why they tell you to use dish soad on weed killer.
Dish soap acts as a surfactant, it makes water "wetter" so whatever you are spraying doesnt just bead up and roll off the leaves. When using it with neem, it is an emulsifier that allows the neem to actually mix with water instead of just being an oil slick on top of your water.

Things will still wash off in the rain, oil based stuff like neem will last a little longer. It definitely doesnt make anything waterproof, if it did we would never be able to rinse it off our dishes.
 

waterproof808

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Spinosad (i.e. monterey garden spray) will rid your plants of leaf miners and thrips easily, but it is harmful to bees. Fortunately, the half life is very short and if you apply in the evening you can avoid killing any bees.
 

FresnoFarmer

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I have used the Monterey spray it doesnt help much how often should I apply it.
I alternate spinosad and neem every 3 days for about 2 weeks in veg. I have successfully gottent rid of red and two-spotted spidermites and leaf miners with this method. I hear BT works on leaf miner larvae as well. I use it for worm control and dont see leaf miners when using it. I need to reup on all 3. I too, am seeing leaf miner damage on a couple plants now.

Edit: Also i use Captain Jacks Deadbug Brew brand of spinosad. Idk if it matters. Never used Monterey before
 

waterproof808

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I have used the Monterey spray it doesnt help much how often should I apply it.
sunlight quickly destroys spinosad so you need to apply it in the evening...its a better time to avoid harming bees as well. Leaf miners are really not that bad of a pest, they just make your leaves look ugly but at least they arent eating the insides of your buds and shitting all over them like caterpillars.
 

FresnoFarmer

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My main question is if they aren’t bad. Is do they damage the buds by making the leafs look like crap.
I think the main reason to get rid of them is so they dont reduce your yield. Plants undergoing stress usually yield less
 
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