Leaves not fading after flush?

4(207) said:

View attachment 4104907 Cookies in straight promix with no soil additives.

Veg nutes whole run, no boosters, no flush.

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Roger A. Shrubber said:

i didn't have it in hempies, i had in 7 gallon cloth pots. i use it in my hempies now, but at 80/20 mixed with perlite. works great, you can water every day if you want, or you can let them go about 3 days before they start to actually need it

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Lip G. said:

WOW hey?!

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Roger A. Shrubber said:

hempies are great, a lot more stable than dwc, and a lot faster than soil. where you put the drain depends on the size of your container, i like to leave them around 25% for the res, so i leave a two inch space at the top of the 14 inch deep totes, and put the drain 4 inches high.
i wouldn't recommend actual soil in them, think it would stay too wet. if you want to use real soil, i'd look into sips containers, sub irrigation planters, where the pot sits on top of a reservoir with a "wick" of soil connecting them

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Stink Bug said:

Yeah Doc I know some semantics are involved. And I see your take on it. My biggest quip is the soilless mixes need to be treated as hydro only. At least that seems too be the general consensus. Many a happy plant has been grow using coco or peat based mixes. Without using any hydro method. Unless you want to consider watering until you get decent runoff as dtw. But again semantics get involved.

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Stink Bug said:

The only time that foam stuff is used anymore is to support cut flowers. At least it's the only time I see it anymore. A florists tool if you will.

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Dr. Who said:

Yup, semantic's! Just to clarify mine a tad...
When I say "like a or as a" hydro style... I mean feed ratio's and pH values used vs soils pH and ratio's..
No "water" part....I mean we both know that soil needs water too.....



Nope wrong stuff!

I really mean a specific white "foam" material that was for running in Ebb pots! You literally "cut" the foam from bulk amounts and/or from close proximity sized blanks......Kinda like "sheep's wool" but more solid in strength...
More like Dengyue Sponge companies seed starting foam (we use that on our muck farm, for our lettuce/celery spouting)...But, again, it had more rigidity to it....
I think the idea came from foam seed starters....I did see it work but, it was costly and everyone I know who did try it.. Went back to Hydroton or Rockwool for that reason...

I can't find a pic of it in use, from back then either....

But, yeah. Not a cut flower green mushy crap....LOL

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Roger A. Shrubber said:

isn't watering till you get a decent run off drain to waste?

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Roger A. Shrubber said:

not trying to argue, but when does it stop being semantics and start being one or the other? gotta draw a line somewhere, problem is i doubt any two people draw it in the same place

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Roger A. Shrubber said:

you know that "flushing" actually triggers a response in your plants that makes them try to put on a last burst of growth, so they absorb as many nutrients into the buds as they are able to? so it actually does the exact opposite of what bro scientist say it does.

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Boston710 said:

Hey guys, so I flushed my plants about 11 days ago, and again about 5 days after with 3x the amount of water. 2 of the plants have started fading, and are close to being done but this one plant really hasn't faded at all yet, leaves have gotten a tiny bit lighter but its barely even noticable.. Normally id just give it a bit longer, but I'm planning on having it all processed into live resin so it needs to get harvested and brought to the guy at the same time. Do the leaves need to be faded for it to be fully flushed? Or is two weeks of just water and flushing the important part? Just want to make sure that it won't put any nasty flavors in my oil.View attachment 4098678 View attachment 4098679 it also started to fade on that sugarleaf, but no where else! I was planning on bringing my material to him in 3 days, so I'd need to chop in 2 days.. would love some input! Will this mess up my live resin run? I've been feeding a modified lucas formula, with 1.25g general hydro kool bloom powder, 6ml micro and 10ml bloom from gen. Hydro.. also im in foxfarms soil. Thanks guys!

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TeW33zy said:

when your flushing are you ph your RO water? If not, that’s why. You have to keep it within so it can pull all the nutrients out the soil then out the leaves. If not, the plant should start throwing deficiencies but the soil still has all the nukes in it.

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TeW33zy said:

when your flushing are you ph your RO water? If not, that’s why. You have to keep it within so it can pull all the nutrients out the soil then out the leaves. If not, the plant should start throwing deficiencies but the soil still has all the nukes in it.

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TeW33zy said:

when your flushing are you ph your RO water? If not, that’s why. You have to keep it within so it can pull all the nutrients out the soil then out the leaves. If not, the plant should start throwing deficiencies but the soil still has all the nukes in it.

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