LED Strip Thermal Paste

Randomblame

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Now for a little hijacking question. Why does it seem my plants are struggling under the strips.
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To me this looks like a heat or light intensity issue, but the strips are 18" above the plants and temps between 75-78 degrees.

Keep your humidity in check too, mate. Maybe it's way to low which cause a too high VPD. Should be around 55-60% for good and healthy growth.

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Slinging PAR

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Pretty much exactly this post...
In a pinch you could also use liquid paper. A lot of it. But if you had a few cases available to you at no cost I think you could come up with an easy way to apply. Oh wait, I think some students may already have.
 

boilingoil

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check your watering habits imo...........also should paint the walls flat white or put up reflective material, it makes a difference

good luck
I'm good on the watering habits. Same problems in my main veg room with sisters taken at the same time when switched to the LEDs.
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Same sisters again under MH.
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boilingoil

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Keep your humidity in check too, mate. Maybe it's way to low which cause a too high VPD. Should be around 55-60% for good and healthy growth.

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My main veg room is at 72 degrees and between 55-60 RH. I will say that the round 1 gal pots are filled with happy frog and that the first pic I posted is 5 days into 12/12. The plants under the MH are in coir which is my main medium I've used for the past 10 years on my indoors. All pics are of GG#4.
 

Slinging PAR

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Keep your humidity in check too, mate. Maybe it's way to low which cause a too high VPD. Should be around 55-60% for good and healthy growth.

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What if your leaves are warmer than ambient? How does that swing the chart?

Also what about altitude? Atmospheric pressure is a significant factor.

All the other forum crud aside, can you help others with the answers seeing as they all will have different environments.
 

Aolelon

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What if your leaves are warmer than ambient? How does that swing the chart?

Also what about altitude? Atmospheric pressure is a significant factor.

All the other forum crud aside, can you help others with the answers seeing as they all will have different environments.
Can you? Seems like all you like doing is trolling people on posts.
 

boilingoil

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I have my LED's 12 inches away from my plant and they look exactly like your MH post. I use led strips and quantum boards (which have the same diodes as the strips I'm using.)
yes, that's what these are under. The flowering ones are under 8 3ks running at 200 watts. The veg lighting is a mix of 4k, 3.5k and 3k at 200 watts.
 

Aolelon

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It is a possibility they are getting used to the light but I honestly am unsure about that so I can't say. The drooping to me looks like watering issues but you said your watering habits are good and your RH is good. Hope you get it figured out.
 

boilingoil

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It is a possibility they are getting used to the light but I honestly am unsure about that so I can't say. The drooping to me looks like watering issues but you said your watering habits are good and your RH is good. Hope you get it figured out.
Yes, except they have struggled from the time they were transplanted into the Happy Frog so that might be part of the problem too. They looked good for the first 3 days after transplant but immediately thereafter started struggling with a Cal and mag issue enough that they had to be fed some. They recovered from the cal dif. and perked up some but they never had the flat leaf surface.
 

Aolelon

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Maybe rootbound? My rootgrowth under white LEDs has been crazy. Leads to drooping and purple stems
Ive also noticed purple stems under my LED, but it could be due to deficiency as 1 plant is affected more than another so I cant be 100% sure its due to the light.
 

Slinging PAR

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Yes, except they have struggled from the time they were transplanted into the Happy Frog so that might be part of the problem too. They looked good for the first 3 days after transplant but immediately thereafter started struggling with a Cal and mag issue enough that they had to be fed some. They recovered from the cal dif. and perked up some but they never had the flat leaf surface.

Temps? Lights on and off. Cooler at dark usually brings out the color.
 

Randomblame

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yes, that's what these are under. The flowering ones are under 8 3ks running at 200 watts. The veg lighting is a mix of 4k, 3.5k and 3k at 200 watts.

My main veg room is at 72 degrees and between 55-60 RH. I will say that the round 1 gal pots are filled with happy frog and that the first pic I posted is 5 days into 12/12. The plants under the MH are in coir which is my main medium I've used for the past 10 years on my indoors. All pics are of GG#4.
Where do you measure the humidity? Can you hang a sensor directly on canopy height between the tops? I would also check the canopy temeratures. They should be about 2-3 ° C below the ambient temperature. Do they look the same all the time or just at the end of the day?
For some reason they are oversaturated and have closed the stomata, which can have different reasons.
Too much water or too much light, too less fresh air, low humidity, soil EC too high,
At first I would hang the lamp higher and use a fan to supply the small girls with more fresh air(and CO²).
You say they are not overwatered..maybe rinse them once and let the pots dry completely(you can try it at first with half the plants to see if it helps).
No fertilizer until they recover! Maybe a light foliar application (eg. with kelp extrakt) or try something with beneficial bacteria like mammothP. Or give them some compost tea with 2 tbl spoons molasses at the end of the rinsing.
I once had the same problem and I had several factors together. For one, the air around the plant was too dry and there was not enough air flow, which disturbed the leaves when breathing, and the soil was overloaded with fertilizers (EC + 3,5mS). After I flushed them and provided a higher humidity with good air-flow thru the canopy and raised the light a bit higher, the symptoms disappeared within a week.
You can not do much more right now. Sometimes it can take a few days to adapt to a new spectrum, but that does not seem to be the case here because they vegged under COB's too.
 
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