Airwalker16
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So you just replaced cal mag with tap water in a 1/5 ratio?
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Billygreen
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I just turned on lights for plants and somehow they seem to be a little better .
I gave them just water for last couple of days and the leaves that are still green are alot greener tonight ..doesn't seem like the damage has gotten any worse and for past 2 weeks each day has exhibited spreading of the deficiency ...So im thinking for sure it was too much cal mag
For most of this grow my plants couldn't get enough and somehow it became too much
Lesson learned i suppose
I gave them just water for last couple of days and the leaves that are still green are alot greener tonight ..doesn't seem like the damage has gotten any worse and for past 2 weeks each day has exhibited spreading of the deficiency ...So im thinking for sure it was too much cal mag
For most of this grow my plants couldn't get enough and somehow it became too much
Lesson learned i suppose
Scotch089
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Yep, in dwc. Straight RO in soil
Airwalker16
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I use rdwc.
SoOLED
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you have came so far, I still remember you saying your were going to be a grow god, bow to your feet lol.
I toll'you veggin is easy, and well see at the end. I'm not being mean, just that on many forums people think this is quick easy $ or a no brainer to do, and most of them just vanish, I'm glad your still around fighting.
if you can grow for a year, good or bad: you will never stop.
so, you will see a well funded people come in, and you will have the prospective, try and tell/advice them whats going to happen before it does. standing on the other side of the line in the sand so-to-speak. you will get to see the same mistakes we all made, being done to people who don't understand everything you have learned.
kind of like being on the zeppelin and say you don't want to light that, and they do it anyway.
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Billygreen
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Im man enough to admit I came into this w bit cocky and over confident . I thought that having the money to get set up was the hardest part lol
When I was a few weeks in I was like this is so fucking easy lol
I was 100 percent wrong .
This is something that takes time through trial and error and committing to always trying to learn more .
Its not easy and I'm not a quitter lol especially when I have 20k$ invested as well as my time.
To those of you who I may have offended with my arrogance in the beginning i do apologize
And Im open to any tips or knowledge you might share with me .
Had I came into this a little more humble and realistically i might not be having the issues I'm having now lol
Resinhound
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actually in coco calcium problems are much more likely in the presence of high k. Coco naturally releases K, so you have to be very careful supplementing with extra K in coco. You arent going to see a "calcium deficiency" by supplementing too much calcium... to much K on the other hand...most likely here your overall nutrient load is just too high... K specifically.,thats why your plants look better after feeding just water.Its well documented that cannabis is extremely tolerant of high calcium levels and calcium toxicities are very rare... the same with magnesium. Id be very interested in learning what you as supplementing with as far as K is concerned. K will compete for uptake with calcium directly.
Billygreen
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The pics show what my plants have been getting . The guy at my local grow shop recommended this line of supplements and recently advised me to go with Rock so thats the only thing thats fairly new . When I was vegging I was feeding twice a week and plants were growing and healthy as you could expect them to be ...Then when I switched them to flower i cut back on the feeding to once a week at recommended amounts for feeding along with still adding the Cal mag until a week ago when I thought maybe it was too much for them
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Resinhound
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too much K is the problem im my opinion. cut the koolbloom and feed just micro and bloom in a 1:2 ratio..
8ml gh micro/16ml gh bloom in a gallon of water... because you are in coco id still add probably 2 ml per gallon of cal mag but only every couple feedings.
you dont need more than this.
8ml gh micro/16ml gh bloom in a gallon of water... because you are in coco id still add probably 2 ml per gallon of cal mag but only every couple feedings.
you dont need more than this.
Billygreen
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I appreciate the input and ill follow your recommendation .
Theres quite a bit of damage to the mid upper leaves on plants but im hoping they recover enough to still produce and finish bud development
I to have completed several nice full grows with my 300w platinum I love my light I now use a 125watt CFL in separate area for seedlings and starting veg then dump 6 plants in a 3x3x72 tent and watch them go nuts,then flip the switch for flower and again watch them go nuts and I only grow organic so its not the chemicals making them go nuts it's my Platinum,nuff said
Resinhound
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we are well aware of platinum leds track record here on these forums.They have been dissected and found to be lacking on several fronts. Im glad you are enjoying them.But platinum is hardly a standard of a well built and efficient horticultural fixture.I have a p300 im currently using as a doorstop and i agree its working great.
Sounds like a Ford,Chevy,Dodge debate I'm 100% sure that each of these models are lacking,depending on who your talking to but in no way any of them are a piece of crap,and I'm sure there are a hell of a lot more of each of these models in junk yards and I'm sure people use each of there parts as door stops and have been working great as well but when something is working for some and can back it with facts I would think a reasonable person would be glad that it's helping someone out in growing arena.If in fact which is not a fact at all that it's not efficient or is not worthy of being a horticulture fixture why is it working so great for so many,I have seen atleast 20 people on every form that have been doing great grows with them and I personally have 2 buddies that have awesome grows and they were the ones that recommended them to me
Resinhound
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your analogy is not very good.. a more accurate analogy would be a ford, chevy, schwinn debate.
"working so great" of course is relative.Specially when there is no common frame of reference. For example since you have apparently never used a good fixture your frame of reference isnt relative to those who have.
i have used platinums AND good fixtures as well, so therefore I do have a realistic frame of reference.My p300 isnt broken it just works better where its at rather than its intended purpose.
Billygreen
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I thought Kind was the best when I got them
And i defended them ( or my pride rather ) until I educated myself a bit at the recommendation of Mr. Hound and although I didn't agree with being corrected at the time now I appreciate being pushed in a different direction .
Thanks Hound
And i defended them ( or my pride rather ) until I educated myself a bit at the recommendation of Mr. Hound and although I didn't agree with being corrected at the time now I appreciate being pushed in a different direction .
Thanks Hound
Billygreen
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In the pic there is a plant under a kind Xl1000 and a plant under AT600
Same strain, same age .
Flowered at same time . Both were same size when flower started . Both plants were vegged under the kind . Added the apache at start of flower . Results speak for themselves
Edit * actually in the pic is a Kind 600
Up until a week ago there was a kind xl1000 above it .
I swapped them out because I was rearranging one of my rooms lighting and all.
But the point is the same. Facts are facts
Some lights are superior and some aren't
Same strain, same age .
Flowered at same time . Both were same size when flower started . Both plants were vegged under the kind . Added the apache at start of flower . Results speak for themselves
Edit * actually in the pic is a Kind 600
Up until a week ago there was a kind xl1000 above it .
I swapped them out because I was rearranging one of my rooms lighting and all.
But the point is the same. Facts are facts
Some lights are superior and some aren't
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So p300 worth 50 bucks buy you a real doorstop? I will throw it in with mine, I have never said they are the best I have in fact said they have done well for me and others but yes I could spend a lot more or less on others but I choose them and have worked well for me,yes I'm not producing pounds out of every plant but doing 6 white widows I have and still are producing around 3 pounds for 6 plants on average with out all the chemicals and cheaper elec and runs a lot cooler so I feel successful,I only grow for personal use
Billy I get that there's better out there and I'm not pushing anyone in my direction all im sayin is for me to grow for my personal use I am very pleased I'm getting good quality I'm not trying to grow to make money .So I'm very happy with all my grows so far and every grow I learn something if and when I get to the 100% perfect quality I will start going for bigger quantities and yes will have to change lighting,but as a very small grower I'm very pleased and learning a lot