I think part of the problem people are having with LEDs are just that they are much harder to dial in than HID. They are so powerful that it's easy to hit bottlenecks in your grow besides the lighting, like VPD, co2, nutrients, etc. If you just replace an HID with LED and don't adjust the rest of your grow, you won't take full advantage of it.
100% user error is all I ever see
Yeah you guys know I’m a newb. Never touched a plant til I dropped 10k on theses leds. Lol
My rooms are sealed, I have mini splits, anden dehuey, trolmaster and any other expensive gadget I prob have it. Those buds I just posted were under led.
I’m still saying with 10 ft or more ceiling and more than a couple lights I prefer the de hps.
Tent grows, growers trying to cool with ventilation fans, or short ceilings all make sense to me to use led.
If your maxed out on amps and wanna cover more space I’d go led too.
But for me if I have the ceiling height and ac, I won’t be hanging any more led anytime soon.
I ran higher temps, higher humidity, and higher feed. You saw the buds posted above. I’m not saying they are trash. I’m saying I get better results from the de hps.