LED Without LEDs -My First T5 Grow

LOL @ all you guys talkin about charts and graphs while the others of us are just growin buds and trying to tell you how.

Just LOL

sunblaster might have just got their brand killed by some random dude talking about spectrum. lol

Did anyone else have 4/20 bring them an awesome weather change? The only downside is that now my house is getting warmer.

no weather got worse had to bring veggie in i was pissed put them out on 420 like oh what a wonderful day, checked the news 40 degree night and raining the next day

Jumped from the 50's to 80 overnight here. It's great for outdoor, means that I need to get the swamp cooler up and running for the indoor though. Don't want to build a new airbox in the attic so we can cool the rooms though...

Hot hot hot here. Have to even run a/c at night. in the 90's in the day. High 70's at night.

Lucius Vorenus said:

LOL @ all you guys talkin about charts and graphs while the others of us are just growin buds and trying to tell you how.

Just LOL

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Who's this directed at Lucius? LoL. I don't see anyone really talkin charts and graphs that doesn't also grow some dank buds of proof.. but maybe I'm missing something...

hyroot said:

Hot hot hot here. Have to even run a/c at night. in the 90's in the day. High 70's at night.

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Not here, we're still getting some nice cool weather. it's supposed to rain for the next week... good for indoor temps, not so good for my seratonin levels.

AltarNation said:

lol, we have done a lot more than study charts for weeks man. Several of us have multiple par grows under our belts at this point. I am finishing my second. Read through the thread before you mock us... we provide the charts as evidence, but that doesn't mean we don't have experience. Best of luck with your 6500ks.

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What part of that was mocking you bud? It's all good, we are on the same team!

JayBio420 said:

What part of that was mocking you bud? It's all good, we are on the same team!

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Sorry, I must have misunderstood.

Hey all!

I thought I'd pop back in and show some shots from my first all-T5 grow. I'm glad to see everyone getting such good use out of the Flora Suns. This thread has come a long way from freaking out over a little green spike.

I'm not on here very often but I've seen a lot of really impressive pictures in recent months. Kudos! Here are my girls at 43 days of 12/12...


This is a quick, fill-in crop for me, to keep things perpetual. The 4 Northern Lights x Haze (mine are an indica expression, growth-wise) got 19 days of veg and were topped, and the White Widow just 17 days. The NLxHaze are showing a Potassium deficiency, I believe, that I have not been able to correct, but are also super-icey. The White Widow (which goes about 70 days) is a beauty...




I prefer at this point to flower bigger plants without a bunch of training, and will probably focus more on LED lighting for that. I would like to start SCROGing with some strains, however, and will definitely come back to T5s for that purpose.

Looks great Organic. What bulbs and nutes you runnin?

Lucius Vorenus said:

LOL @ all you guys talkin about charts and graphs while the others of us are just growin buds and trying to tell you how.

Just LOL

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Some of us are more interested in learning the principles and perfecting techniques through first hand experience, than being told how to do anything

Don't get upset cuz people aren't agreeing with your "PAR light isn't worth it" and "cheap grow/bloom bulbs are better" arguments, when most of us have already gone that route and have moved on to more advanced lighting methods... Grow/bloom = amature... PAR = advanced.

Lol all you want, grow your buds and contribute when you have something constructive, but dont talk down to those who are having discussions that are in line with the general theme of the thread.

PetFlora said:

UCC PAR ain't all that. It fails to reveal the importance of 500-600nms, which ideally is ~ 25% in both veg and flower. The tweak areas are ~ 380-450 & ~ 630- 740. As soon as I replaced "PAR" bulbs with 2 Quantum Grows the veging plants have exploded in all 3 dimensions

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I'll pop a couple grows into my veg fixture just to humor y'allz, heh. I am curious, and open minded about it.

Lucius Vorenus said:

Looks great Organic. What bulbs and nutes you runnin?

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Here's the bulbs...

Flora Sun; Coral Wave; Flora Sun; 6400k; Red Sun; Flora Sun; Coral Wave; Flora Sun
The 6400k wasn't my first choice, but it's what I had available.

No nutes. Just an organic soil mix with periodic Kelp/Alfalfa teas. I'd adjust the mix to up the K, but this was actually a one time mix and I went in a different direction.

Undercover Cop said:

Some of us are more interested in learning the principles and perfecting techniques through first hand experience, than being told how to do anything

Don't get upset cuz people aren't agreeing with your "PAR light isn't worth it" and "cheap grow/bloom bulbs are better" arguments, when most of us have already gone that route and have moved on to more advanced lighting methods... Grow/bloom = amature... PAR = advanced.

Lol all you want, grow your buds and contribute when you have something constructive, but dont talk down to those who are having discussions that are in line with the general theme of the thread.

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Are you dumb? Serious question because I don't want to argue with you if you are.

I run 2 "PAR" setups next to a Bloom with Flora Suns setup and im telling you the Bloom and Florasuns run away with it. The most important thing is getting lumens close to your plant and in high quantities. You guys are just talking nonsense if you think its anything more than that.

Spend a few hundred dollars on Fijis and Red Suns, all I was trying to do is save you fools some money.

Lucius Vorenus said:

Are you dumb? Serious question because I don't want to argue with you if you are.

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Obviously not a serious question... in fact, way to show your true colors bro. None of us have resorted to personalisms, and you've gone and called us fools and ask fecetious questions like the above. In my book that is a lot dumber than having differing opinions based on experiences. Jesus.

Nice attitude. Really. Serious compliment.

Pfft.

P.S. Nice growing, and your input is valuable. It's too bad you taint it with your bad attitude. Just unsubbed your thread... not because I don't think you are contributing valuable information, but because I like to associate with people who respect their peers.

Lucius Vorenus said:

Are you dumb? Serious question because I don't want to argue with you if you are.

I run 2 "PAR" setups next to a Bloom with Flora Suns setup and im telling you the Bloom and Florasuns run away with it. The most important thing is getting lumens close to your plant and in high quantities. You guys are just talking nonsense if you think its anything more than that.

Spend a few hundred dollars on Fijis and Red Suns, all I was trying to do is save you fools some money.

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You got some good bud porn to post with your awesome new findings, Luscius?

Lucius Vorenus said:

Are you dumb? Serious question because I don't want to argue with you if you are.

I run 2 "PAR" setups next to a Bloom with Flora Suns setup and im telling you the Bloom and Florasuns run away with it. The most important thing is getting lumens close to your plant and in high quantities. You guys are just talking nonsense if you think its anything more than that.

Spend a few hundred dollars on Fijis and Red Suns, all I was trying to do is save you fools some money.

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I wouldn't mind a side by side comparison, seeing as you're already doing one essentially. People respond to you alot better if you're not condescending. Opening with "Are you dumb?", followed by "You guys are just talking nonsense", and "you fools", is probably not the best way to make a point. Your message would not have changed one bit if you removed the insults, and would have caused alot less drama.