DCcan
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Earth Worm Castings & Bacillus Thuringiensis to kill crawly gnat grubsEWC? BT?
Earth Worm Castings & Bacillus Thuringiensis to kill crawly gnat grubsEWC? BT?
I already use recharge and after a LOT of research about Tribus Original I really want to to try it. Do you think recharge and Tribus Original will work well together or are they to similar?I don't think microbes are absolutely necessary or that you can't grow without them but in my experience they work to improve plant health, and show visible results within days.
I'm quite the "frugal person" and usually just DIY everything on the cheap side. But then i spent about $25 on microbes... Just to give them a try, i thought... and haven't looked back ever since.
Products like Recharge, Tribus, Mammoth P, Photo Plus... They just work (yes, i've tried them) when used correctly. Some may be on the cheap side and some on the expensive side, but that's up to the buyer.
Look at the label.I already use recharge and after a LOT of research about Tribus Original I really want to to try it. Do you think recharge and Tribus Original will work well together or are they to similar?
From my understanding mycos create a sort of symbiotic relationship with roots, which allows them to exchange nutrients efficiently in a way that is beneficial for plant being able to take in nutrients optimally. Beneficials on the other hand i understand work in the soil breaking in dead roots and other dead organic matter in the soil, which shits out nutrients that are in a form easily available for the plant, this also cleans out crap from grow medium that could otherwise have bad bacteria growing in it.The advantage of mychorzea and other such stuff is they assist in transport of nutrients to the plant itself. Mychorzea specifically, my understanding, is it helps keeps roots nice and clean. It was explained to me like this: plants have highways in their bodies the same way humans do [veins], we get clogs causing strokes and heart attacks. Beneficial bacteria keeps the plants highway system moving and unclogged. Sorry 4 the elementary explanation. Tarantula is the only thing I've ever used. Some of those products posted sound/look real interesting
I bought bacterex from biotabs like 8 months ago or so. Grew few plants with it and used it many times the recommended dose. I still have about 1/3rd left and it cost about 35 bucks.No need to pay ridiculous prices
all of it is symbolic with the plant. the plant gives the microbes carbs to eat.... That happens without us. Then we feed the microbes with molasses as their main food source but they have more to eat then just that.Humic acid is food for microbes right?
So theoretically after flip or beginning of veg. I could pour a healthy dose of microbes one time into my rez and then keep them alive by continuously pouring in humic acid
if your in soil then hes right. its a waste of money. Any healthy soil you make or buy is full of bennies. These bennies are great but they are not hard to make or get. (a cup of EWC will have more live bennies in it then any bottle on the market. sure you'll have to use a lab to see what kind is doing what but thats organics. )I bought bacterex from biotabs like 8 months ago or so. Grew few plants with it and used it many times the recommended dose. I still have about 1/3rd left and it cost about 35 bucks.
I dont think the price is ridiculous. If i need to spend more than hour thinking and doing the work to get the beneficials to easily handled container where they last me at least a year of use(and as easily used as commercial products) and unless the beneficials i make myself are not at least as good, then its not worth spending the time doing it for me.
I get it if you want to do it as a hobby, im sure its cool and i respect people doing things themselves as much as possible, but to suggest that its THE sensible way and buying is only waste of money, well that is just nonsense.
So I use myco in a hydro setting. Theres no way to keep the myco alive? I would have to continuously keep feeding it weekly/biweekly?all of it is symbolic with the plant. the plant gives the microbes carbs to eat.... That happens without us. Then we feed the microbes with molasses as their main food source but they have more to eat then just that.
To answer your question, yes you can do that. the plant will keep them alive even if you dont feed them. when we feed them , we hope that they multiply and stay happy.
EWC is the best organisms you can get. or even good soil. Its loaded with good bacteria.
Myco is NOT lactic acid bacteria.... so LAB aka myco dont make sense. Mycorrizea is a fungi , not a bacteria. It lives inside the roots of the host and spreads out , causing the roots to spread out too.....if there is plenty of food in the soil then the myco WILL DIE. The plant only needs the myco if its having problems getting to the food in the soil. Bottom line: myco will not help you if your soil is already rich and healthy.
im against using it in hydro but that dont mean anything.So I use myco in a hydro setting. Theres no way to keep the myco alive? I would have to continuously keep feeding it weekly/biweekly?
If there would be enough in the soil to begin with, then it would be as pointless to add self made or bought. Self making will likely require so much time, that i dont personally see saving, i see waste of time rather than waste of money and id rather spend that amount of money than that amount of time for nothing.if your in soil then hes right. its a waste of money. Any healthy soil you make or buy is full of bennies. These bennies are great but they are not hard to make or get. (a cup of EWC will have more live bennies in it then any bottle on the market. sure you'll have to use a lab to see what kind is doing what but thats organics. )
Makes sense. Ill stop using it once I run out of this 2.2lb Mykos bag.im against using it in hydro but that dont mean anything.
The myco cannot survive if there is plenty of food in the medium. Its only purpose is to help the host find food. if the food is abundent then the myco has no reason to keep helping. (it mat not die but it will go dormant or die when its not needed)
If you are trying to keep myco alive then were not on the same page. The plant is all that matters.
There are already enough microbes in decent soil that will continue to die of and multiply at the same time. There are countless scientific studies that have shown the rate of reproduction of soil microbes. Many of them were done to dispel the myth that chlorinated/chloramine tap water killed the microbes. The studies all showed that while some microbes did die they rebounded within days and the microbe population suffered no ill effects from tap water.If there would be enough in the soil to begin with, then it would be as pointless to add self made or bought. Self making will likely require so much time, that i dont personally see saving, i see waste of time rather than waste of money and id rather spend that amount of money than that amount of time for nothing.
Therefore your argument is pointless if you jsut say that there are enough of them in soil, so buying is pointless.
However i personally use them in a mix that is mostly coco, perlite etc and very little if any soil. Whether they are pointless in that is a whole another argument not related to spending time vs money.