Lets just bomb em...

john.roberts85

john.roberts85

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ViRedd said:
Ahhh ... stones I throw. Yes indeed. But my stones are thrown in retaliation for stones thrown at me ... unless I'm just joking.

Also ... Iran may not have attacked another country, but they sure have supported their share of terrorism. I think I remember a whole bunch of American hostages back in the past. Something about Jimmy Carter ... and then The Gipper ....

Vi
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That may make sense if the circumstances were viewed in a bubble as a singular event. It's certainly not though. If you do remember, the United States colaborated with Britain to overthrow PM Mosaddeq in '53 and install a "friendlier" regime. As a preemptive move, the Iranians deported all of Britain's diplomats. What happened next? The CIA operates and plans the coup in our embassy in Tehran and reinstalls Pahlavi with help from a few Iranian military officials. This is called Operation Ajax. Now fast-forward to 1979 when their revolution is underway and Pahlavi having fled to the United States. Knowing the history of American intervention in their country and countless others, is it terribly difficult to grasp the takeover of the embassy? Twenty-six years earlier the United States planned the ousting and installation of a dictator from that very building. :joint:
 
medicineman

medicineman

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There is also plenty of speculation that the "Gipper" had his henchmen bribe the Iranians to hold on to the hostages untill he was installed as President, Somehow, with the sandanistas and the guns for cash debacle, it seems very believable to me., you know, (Iran-Contra), Funny how the Israelis just delivered spare airplane parts to them days before the hostage release now isn't it?
 
ViRedd

ViRedd

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john.roberts85 said:
That may make sense if the circumstances were viewed in a bubble as a singular event. It's certainly not though. If you do remember, the United States colaborated with Britain to overthrow PM Mosaddeq in '53 and install a "friendlier" regime. As a preemptive move, the Iranians deported all of Britain's diplomats. What happened next? The CIA operates and plans the coup in our embassy in Tehran and reinstalls Pahlavi with help from a few Iranian military officials. This is called Operation Ajax. Now fast-forward to 1979 when their revolution is underway and Pahlavi having fled to the United States. Knowing the history of American intervention in their country and countless others, is it terribly difficult to grasp the takeover of the embassy? Twenty-six years earlier the United States planned the ousting and installation of a dictator from that very building. :joint:
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Ya know JE ... its a real pain in the arse to have people posting in this forum who know history. :mrgreen:

Vi
 
medicineman

medicineman

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ViRedd said:
Ya know JE ... its a real pain in the arse to have people posting in this forum who know history. :mrgreen:

Vi
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I think it's wonderful that we have a voice of reason posting here. I see he has the patience to back up his views, something I long ago lost. Arguement is only worthwhile if it may have a positive result for one of the arguees, IE the other party changes his views. It is pretty plain to me that those that oppose my views are too far gone to consider my views. Hence the lack of interest on my part to coerce them. I'll post my views and move on, yeah I'll probably get entangled in some vitriolic bullshit but Believe me I'm trying not to.
 
ViRedd

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Yes, I agree Med ... it is wonderful to have voices of reason in the forum. John and Undertheice have been positive additions. Now if only Wavels would drop in from time to time.

And I, like you ... are trying hard not to be over the top. I've realized that I'm not going to change your views. Not giving up, mind you ... just trying to be more reasonable.

Damn, man ... you should see the frosty nuggets I got from my last grow. They glow with frosty goodness. :)

Vi
 
mockingbird131313

mockingbird131313

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medicineman said:
I think it's wonderful that we have a voice of reason posting here. I see he has the patience to back up his views, something I long ago lost. Arguement is only worthwhile if it may have a positive result for one of the arguees, IE the other party changes his views. It is pretty plain to me that those that oppose my views are too far gone to consider my views. Hence the lack of interest on my part to coerce them. I'll post my views and move on, yeah I'll probably get entangled in some vitriolic bullshit but Believe me I'm trying not to.
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Sometimes I believe your views are straight on. Sometimes I think you have eyefuls of Nevada sand obscuring your view.

John. Roberts does raise a hell-of-a-point. We (the USA) have no business bothering in other countries affairs. Where would the world be if we just stopped foreign relations? Probably better off for the most part. Minding our own business cost a lot less than the alternative, anyway.
 
GrowRebel

GrowRebel

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ZenMaster said:
I have a better solution, the ignore list.

Grow cannot articulate a rational thought nor provide a reasonable debate. I feel disgusted I wasted as much time as I did being lured by Grow's horribly immature attitude and shear idiocy.

Lesson here,

Don't feed the trolls.
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It is you that can't comprehend an articulate rational thought ... all that fauxnews watching has obviously rotted what little brain tissue you had ... yeah anyone that can slam you with facts that you can possible dispute is horribly immature ... so what else is new ... ... see what did I tell ya ... told ya fauxnews viewers are fuck in the head ... are their rationalizations crazy or what ... :D
 
medicineman

medicineman

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mockingbird131313 said:
Sometimes I believe your views are straight on. Sometimes I think you have eyefuls of Nevada sand obscuring your view.

John. Roberts does raise a hell-of-a-point. We (the USA) have no business bothering in other countries affairs. Where would the world be if we just stopped foreign relations? Probably better off for the most part. Minding our own business cost a lot less than the alternative, anyway.
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Yeah, that nevada sand can be very limiting to good sight. Like I've said, the more you know, the more you know you don't know. I'm at the don't know shit rung on the ladder of my life. next is senility. I can hardly wait. Then I'll not be responsible for my ramblings, and I can impune all of you with out remembering what I said to who. Just like groundhog day, a new day every day
 
el1

el1

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mockingbird131313 said:
Where would the world be if we just stopped foreign relations? Probably better off for the most part. Minding our own business cost a lot less than the alternative, anyway.
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I hear that! For one thing , marijuana wouldn't be illegal in every country that has diplomatic ties to the US.

The U.S government want to become the world police, Google PNAC, The plan for the new american century. More military bases on foreign soil etc etc.

The U.S government are trying to take over the world.........but instead of using conventional warfare they are doing it with a smile , a handfull of lies and blackmail.

The american people ave been lied to so much they don't know what to believe. and most are so stupid that there no chance of a revolution because as soon as someone stand up and says no to the government and their shit they get labelled Anti - american , or pro-terror its so un-patriotic to question your government.

I seriously hope one day you people re-read the declaration of independance and realise that your being held hostage in your own country , and it has nothing to do with the middle east , it has to do with rich wankers wanting to be richer.
 
medicineman

medicineman

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I seriously hope one day you people re-read the declaration of independance and realise that your being held hostage in your own country , and it has nothing to do with the middle east , it has to do with rich wankers wanting to be richer.

There it is in a nutshell. "rich wankers want to be richer".
 
ViRedd

ViRedd

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medicineman said:
Yeah, that nevada sand can be very limiting to good sight. Like I've said, the more you know, the more you know you don't know. I'm at the don't know shit rung on the ladder of my life. next is senility. I can hardly wait. Then I'll not be responsible for my ramblings, and I can impune all of you with out remembering what I said to who. Just like groundhog day, a new day every day
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You're almost there Med. Take it from me, senility isn't so bad. :mrgreen:

Vi
 
mockingbird131313

mockingbird131313

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el1 said:
I hear that! For one thing , marijuana wouldn't be illegal in every country that has diplomatic ties to the US.

The U.S government want to become the world police, Google PNAC, The plan for the new american century. More military bases on foreign soil etc etc.

The U.S government are trying to take over the world.........but instead of using conventional warfare they are doing it with a smile , a handfull of lies and blackmail.

The american people ave been lied to so much they don't know what to believe. and most are so stupid that there no chance of a revolution because as soon as someone stand up and says no to the government and their shit they get labelled Anti - american , or pro-terror its so un-patriotic to question your government.

I seriously hope one day you people re-read the declaration of independance and realise that your being held hostage in your own country , and it has nothing to do with the middle east , it has to do with rich wankers wanting to be richer.
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Ah el1, soon people in government will be saying that the government is fucked up; and it was the Freemasons that did it!

But, at least you and I will know the truth. It was really those damn hoodlums over at Skull & Bones that did us in.
 
mockingbird131313

mockingbird131313

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medicineman said:
Yeah, that nevada sand can be very limiting to good sight. Like I've said, the more you know, the more you know you don't know. I'm at the don't know shit rung on the ladder of my life. next is senility. I can hardly wait. Then I'll not be responsible for my ramblings, and I can impune all of you with out remembering what I said to who. Just like groundhog day, a new day every day
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My dear friend medicineman, when you slide down the next rung of your ladder, I promiss to assist you. I will say something, at least once a week, to cause you such anger that you foam at the mouth.

Please let me know when to start.
 
ViRedd

ViRedd

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panhead said:
Agreed,especially when they say " dont worry about him,he's a dirty old man but he's harmless" ,it's gotten me by a few times :mrgreen:
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LMAO! ... And you know you've really arrived at the senility point when the young ladies think you're "cute" ... and you interpet that to mean they're attracted to you. :mrgreen:

Here's how you know you're getting old: You forget to zip up. Here's how you know your getting really, really .... really old: You forget to zip down. :?

Vi

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medicineman

medicineman

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mockingbird131313 said:
My dear friend medicineman, when you slide down the next rung of your ladder, I promiss to assist you. I will say something, at least once a week, to cause you such anger that you foam at the mouth.

Please let me know when to start.
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Boy, you are sure full of yourself. Time and patience will lead you to wisdom, but I'm afraid you have a long journey ahead,~LOL~.
 
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