lets talk israel

diemdepyro

diemdepyro

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This country is wayyyyy off the free market now. Nobody make that argument. The things the country founded have been twisted as much as the Bible.
A bunch of sheep...Hell I am an American, more goat like.
 
AGSteve

AGSteve

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TheBrutalTruth said:
What's your political ideology, because it clearly isn't free market capitalism/libertarianism where the only thing the state is used for is to prevent murder, rape, theft and other well defined crimes.
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pmsl you fool.

'free market capitalism/libertarianism where the only thing the state is used for is to prevent murder, rape, theft and other well defined crimes'

i've never heard so much bullshit from a flid who has no idea on political ideology when you believe the state just tries to prevent crimes.

from what i've read here most of you just think about your own insignificant lives and not the lives of the other people that live on the majority of the planet.

religion is a man made concept and full of shit whether its christianity, judaism, islam, buddism, sihkism, or the most popular of all idontgiveafuckaboutanyoneelseism which can be found in abundance in the previously mentioned religions.

imo were about due for a comet impact to get rid of all the dumbass fukwits who couldn't survive without a state or religion dictating their lives.
 
rezo

rezo

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its 2008. we are living the future. so when they say i should live by a 2000+ year old book or a 200+ year old piece of paper im sorry thats bullshit. the constitution .the bible .please until we stop segregating ourselves because of beliefs were fucked
 
AGSteve

AGSteve

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rezo said:
its 2008. we are living the future. so when they say i should live by a 2000+ year old book or a 200+ year old piece of paper im sorry thats bullshit. the constitution .the bible .please until we stop segregating ourselves because of beliefs were fucked
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full agreement. if i said god had spoken to me i'd be locked up in a padded cell. if god was so vocal in ancient history with visions and all, where the fuck is god now. why aren't the religious texts a work in progress. if god spoke to moses and others back in the day, why does it not show himself now to all of us.
 
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engineeredweed

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TheBrutalTruth said:
Estimates place the total number of people killed at 10 Million, 6 Million of those were Jews, with the remained belonging to the groups that you itemized make up the balance.

Victims Killed Source Jews 5.9 million [29] Soviet POWs 2–3 million [30] Ethnic Poles 1.8–2 million [31][32] Roma 220,000–500,000 [33] Disabled 200,000–250,000 [34] Freemasons 80,000–200,000 [35] Homosexuals 5,000–15,000 [36] Jehovah's
Witnesses 2,500–5,000 [37]
You state that the numbers were exaggerated, but even if those numbers were reduced by half the end result would be that the Jewish were the ones that primarily suffered from the Holocaust, with Soviet POWs (being soldiers of a state that Germany was fighting) and Poles making up the majority of the balance.

And besides, the people that you are quoting are expressing their opinions, not actual facts. Their opinion is that Israel is an illegitimate government. Good for them. They can time travel back to the 1930s - 1940s and talk to Winston Churchill, and tell him that they do not want their own state.
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didnt something like 20 million ruskies die during ww2? that eclipses the jewish deaths by many a magnitude. The real criminals during that war were the bankers that funded both sides.
 
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engineeredweed

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There are also reports that the zionists turned down offers to evacuate the jews as well.. so as to have a reason to establish israel. I wouldn't be suprised.
 
Big P

Big P

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well i guess all the americans are ready to pack up and leave america and give it back to the native americans then too right?


isreal is not gonna leave. one side or the other will have to be destroyed or maybe even both.

i was born on the shitty side, my family fled Palistine when the jews removed them at gun point when they took over.


i say in the interest of childrens lives may as well let bygones be bygones but as long as this is going on trust one or probably both sides are gonna see an amber glow and be destroyed and be uninhabitable for many years


Im an Arab and trust me when I say there is plenty of wild crazy religious arabs out there that cant wait to drop a nuke on isreal and destroy it even if it will rain hell on thier own people. Kinda like an I gottcha, "should have never fucked with me" type of thing, cuz in all reality any response would not matter because isreal would be gone for ever and the arabs would survive any retaliation for the most part

M.A.D.

Mutually assured destruction only matters if your enemy fear destruction. seems palistine is already destroyed they dont have anything to lose now but their arch enemy.

With more crazys getting the nukes. i really dont think it would be hard to plant a nuke and it have no return address.

just a matter of time. also just a matter of time when bodies will be dropping from the skies again maybe in america or somwhere else. then poeple will want Obama to pop a cap in thier asses just liked they demanded bush do. I wonder if they will turn thier back on him too?
 
medicineman

medicineman

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Geeze big P, you're such a positive guy. I think we share a lot of the same world views. I just have a little more hope than you. I realize that hope is not a real world thing, but it gives me false comfort, and afterall, isn't that what we should be doing? I mean if everyone had a little hope, maybe things would actually get better. Most all religions base their central theme on hope and faith. Why is that not a good thing. If the world would adhere to most religious principles, especially this one "Do unto others as you would have them do unto you", this would be a pretty nice place to live, No?
 
Hydrotech364

Hydrotech364

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cheeseysynapse said:

The simple fact of the matter is when the cease fire agreement expired.........it was Hamas that began launching relative spitwads into Israel....and now the Islamic world wants us to believe that Israel's response is "disproportionate" when in fact Hamas, and everyone else in the world, knew Israel would respond the way that is has before Hamas began firing their spitwads.

I read something interesting the other day, and I can't remember where it was. But, the crux of the argument in that piece was that the PLO was in secret kind of hoping for Hamas to get blown to smithereens so that the PLO could takeover for Hamas in Gaza.

Regardless, I think they will "invade" but it won't last long. And I don't think they'll try to take Gaza back. I think they'll just kick some ass, and then leave the PLO or Hamas to pick up the pieces.....
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I dont blame them.If you aim a rocket at my backyard im going to throw a big pipe bomb into youres.Hamas knew what they were getting into.Now their leader is a martyr:shock:
 
TheBrutalTruth

TheBrutalTruth

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AGSteve said:
pmsl you fool.

'free market capitalism/libertarianism where the only thing the state is used for is to prevent murder, rape, theft and other well defined crimes'

i've never heard so much bullshit from a flid who has no idea on political ideology when you believe the state just tries to prevent crimes.

from what i've read here most of you just think about your own insignificant lives and not the lives of the other people that live on the majority of the planet.

religion is a man made concept and full of shit whether its christianity, judaism, islam, buddism, sihkism, or the most popular of all idontgiveafuckaboutanyoneelseism which can be found in abundance in the previously mentioned religions.

imo were about due for a comet impact to get rid of all the dumbass fukwits who couldn't survive without a state or religion dictating their lives.
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AGSteve, clearly you are incompetent, and dyslexic or illiterate. I fail to see what religion has to do with anything, when the oldest surviving set of laws is Hammurabi's code.

Of course, you might be an anarchist that sees nothing wrong with murder, theft, rape and other crimes that specifically involve depriving other people of life, liberty, or property.

My advice would be to take your keyboard, shove it up your ass, and then go back to whatever backwater you came from, because your post lacks any clearly defined arguments against what I posted, and instead just attacks them.

Of course, based on your level of dyslexia or illiteracy as demonstrated by your lack of reading comprehension, I suppose that I shouldn't be surprised.

Though in response to your post, what does Murder, Rape, or Theft have to do with religion?

Other than the fact that religion itemized them as sins in addition to crimes?
 
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