liberty haze 2nd cfl grow

added another exhaust fan with carbon filter. will be throwing pics up later.
dropped my temps about 3 degrees.
not sure if i will be supercropping i will probably wait and test is out on a few plants on my outdoor grows.
i will be doing a bunch of reading on the topic in the next day or 2.
my last plant was almost to bushy for my cfl's that is why i am lsting this time.
happy easter to all off to a tasty dinner.

day 23
added a few more 23w 5000k bulbs this morning. for a total of 368w (16 23w bulbs 25,600 lumens)
my second carbon filter attached to my box much better. last one was with tape this one was with caulk.
put a nice 1/2 tall bead all around the base then set the filter on and squished it down into the bead then smoothed off inside and out for a nice seal.
as for the plants they are really taking off now can see the size difference in the 2.
the one in the black pot has almost 1 1/2 times the internode distance of the blue pot.
have to adjust the lst on the black pot everday and the blue pot every 2-3 days.
i am thinking of switching the lights to 12/12 this saturday night which would be a 30 day veg.
i used ffof soil and have yet to feed anything. all growth is nice dark green and growing fast,
they are not asking for anything so no food for them yet. might give them a 1/4 strength dynagro feeding next watering for a little boost.

Ur right on time hits! That CFL lighting right is gonna do u great justice bro!
as long as u keep the lights right on top of them and the short you'll pull 2oz each without a doubt!
and I would veg as long as I can keep them small enough, and then flip when they're getting too big, or are about a third the height that u want them to finish at.
I'm no longer veggin by the calendar. Just gonna watch the plant until it seems ready ya know?
also, I'd foliar feed with some aloe or coconut water if u got some. Leaves foliar sprayed always seem to look better in the end.

i do not have either but will look into it for sure. i only foliar feed when i water the plants for the fact it takes to long to dry off.
i am not dead set on any time frame would like to see preflowers before flip but do not want to have giant plants in a 2x2 box.
i would like them to finish between 20-30 inches. would like them as wide as can be so i can keep my light as close to as many leaves as possible.
another day or 3 and the secondary branching will be popping out the top of the canopy. not sure on how crazy of lst i will go. once secondary matches the main colas i might just let the plants go back to growing vertical.

added 5 more bulbs 1 23w 5000k and 4 18w 2700k. for a total of 460w and 30,000 lumens.
would like to get close to 40,000 lumens but not sure if it will handle the heat from 26 bulbs.
this could be overkill but would like the best results possible.
had to lst even more today. 1st node on the black one the main beams are as wide as the pot which is almost 9 inches.
i believe it is starting to show preflowers. seems a bit early but we will sees.

So bro, as far as the light goes, you know you can also minimize the size of the cab, or bring the walls in somehow to focus the existing light on them just that much more! 26c is right about perfect temp tho, so as long as you can keep it tere and not getting much hotter, you'll reap the bnenefits for sure.
Some sorta co2 will also do your right boss.

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This is wa sI use brotha and I will recommend buying on ASAP! IT's just set it an forget it!
I used one for 6 months with good results and this time around I'm gonna buy 2 just to have that mush more co2 in the air.
the Co2 is literally oxygen for the plants bra!

my whole grow is only 2x2x4 almost looks like i have the cfl's stacked on eachother even tho each one has its purpose not just cramming lights.
at the moment i am only using the bottom half of the grow. i could get 4 3 gallon pots in the grow but only going with 2 knowing they will bush out.
also need room a fan and cool mist humidifier in there humidifier acts as a fan to push hot air up to my exhaust.
i seen the co2 bags a month ago but not sure if it would help much since i am constantly intaking and exhausting to keep temps in check.

yeahh this is prob the 3rd time you've told me your room dimensions, and thie is the 1st time I've atcually acknowledged that lol.
My bad bro...#blameitonetheweed lol
And I'm growing in 3gals right now and the ones the I've topped early aren't growing beyond the pots at this point.
But I didn't give them but a week of 18/6 so they prob would with a nice veg..

I plan on training each cola on the next group, to the outside of the pot while they're in one gals, and then releasing them when I transplant them to 3gal.
But in saying all that, I think you can manage to keep them within the pots if you grow them that way(early top on meristem)

well went a bit crazy on the pics but been snowing the last 2 days and getting bored. its april still around a month or 2 before plants go outside.
my girl just stopped and picked me up some clonex from the local hydro store.
top row of pics is all the black pot check out the secondary growth and internode length and compare it to the blue pot.
second row is all blue pot. this plant has about half the length of the internode compared to the black one.
they are both lib haze either i have 2 different pheno's or one could just be a much more vigorous grower.
watered last night with 1.5 gallons mixed with quarter strength dyna gro foliage pro. after this grow will likely be going organic using dyna gro because its a complete nutrient.

last row of pics shows my snowy back yard nd veggies.
much steeper in real life than the pic about 30ft of elevation change about 400 ft to the lowest corner of lawn.
as for the veggies running 2 t-12(2700k and 4100k) and one t 8(6500k). all veggies were started under 4100k and can see they all have done just fine.
tomatoes,peppers,basil,parsley,broccoli all started about 2 months ago.
also started the root end off from store bought organic celery,romaine, and green leaf lettuce. link shows how to do it very simple.
started about a month ago my mothers day present to my mom and my girls mom and step mom. those are the decorative pots.
one is a lupine and the others are both wild flowers.
the tomatoes are cherry tomatoes the ones growing vertical have 100w cfl's on it. i know your not supposed to plant 3 in the same pot but it was either ditch them or do what i am and hope to get by til i can get them outside.
horticulture and botany are my passion will be starting my own indoor grow for veggies in my garage this winter.
also planted 4 blueberry and 4 grapes this weekend. on the lower part of my lawn will be planting apple,cherry, peach, plum, blackberry, raspberry,elderberry, and gooseberry, hops. hoping to be able to make a go of it making jams, salsa's, pickled veggies. also have 2 goats at the moment will be adding a few more to milk so i can make goat cheeses.

hope you enjoy tend to be long winded when bored

That leopard, lynx, cheetah, or jag on the feet lol?! Nice update!

haha i got a thing for sexy shoes not much to say.
thought that would slip by but def not.

lol. Def, didnt slip by lol. I call those kinda shoes pappy's lol! As my grand pappy stayed with a pair on lol!

hydro store did not have any clonex and for the 100ml they would have in a week was $25.
so i just ordered dyna gro root gel 60 ml for $12 shipped off amazon.
gonna veg another week or so then take cuttings and switch to 12/12.
the first node of the secondary branching has 2 sets of leaves now so i hope by then i will be able to take 4-8 cuttings off each plant.

looks good.

day 27 black pot is 15 inches wide and only 4 inches tall.
can see secondary nodes popping through the canopy.
blue one has same number of nodes as the black one just much smaller as can be seen in pics.
lst'd black one to put all 4 tops out past the edges of the pot which about 11 inches.
waiting for my cloning gel so i can take clones and switch to flowering.
pots are drying much faster these days thirsty girls. say this loosely hoping for female's.
not sure if i will keep male and female and breed. both are lib haze and could use a bounty of seeds.
also could use a big bounty of bud.

Right on TIME with the LST Hits! Don't think you could have done a better job bro!
Expect to see that look somewhere amidst my next run

And me, I'd hope for a male and a female if they we're both the same thing lol! That would def be the best case scenario!
You wouldn't have to buy beans ANYMORE lol unless you wanted some variety! And then you'd have hella beans to trade and get others with DAMN a dream that sounds like HA!

Well done with that LST! You gonna supercrop em too?!

i do not think so on the supercropping. gonna have to work that on me just not sold on it.
i agree on all the beans i want but getting very anxious on wanting some tasty heady nugs.
thanks for the props the lst is simple.
gonna pop them out of the pots before i water next time soil settled an inch atleast and fill them back to the tops to give them fresh ffof and more root growth.
thinking of trimming some leaves to get better penetration middle of canopy is anywhere from 3-5 leaves thick.

they are going to be some nice bushes.

Don't trim leaves for light penetration on a plant that 4" tall Hits! That's ass backwards lol! I just caught that and hope you didn't do it already!
You need EVERY leaf you can get! Hope all is well boss

day 32
took 12 clones from both plants.
the black one is female has pistils on top growth.
blue one has not sexed itself.
can see nice dense undergrowth with nice thick stems.
cloning went well and very easy. now hope for good success rate.
will be keeping half for myself and trade my buddies some work helping me cut brush on my property for some primo clones.
will also be cloning the clones so i can keep the strain alive for a bit to see how i like it and if i improve over a few runs.
have been water every 2-3 days they are thirsty girls