lol I quit...after 40 years... nothing happened but Liz Benton recently quit weed after smoking it at least once a day for seven years — and

From personal experience after smoking daily for decades, as long as I can remember, say 35yrs, I have quit weed during that time.

I quit out the blue after decades of smoking and 3 days later I was at emergency doctors with a heart rate of 185 which it had been at constantly for those past 3 days. Betablockers, proprananol, were needed and after 6 months I was back to normal. No weed and no intention of smoking again but I did soon after and now again decades of daily smoke because I'm afraid and don't want to stop in case same happens again. Was very hard for those 6 months, sweats, sleep issues, mental issues etc and it scared me.

As for pills, benzos has always been my weakness over the decades but as I've got older I do have more control than ever before. Maybe just experience but I can pinpoint the mg I need daily to hit the sweetspot enabling me to function.

So here I am, middleish age with decades of weed and benzo abuse/fun/best time ever and still at it without regrets.

As for dreams, I stopped having them years ago. Seriously I did. No dreams for me.

Considering all the above and still the fact that I am daily user of weed and pills I do have a busy responsible working family life and all this happens whilst I'm nicely under MY FUNCTIONAL daily influence totally unaware to most.

Call it control, I'd like to think so at my age but I do know I am dependant on both.

.Smoke said:

Reporter who got PTSD from firing a rifle responds to critics - Washington Examiner

A New York Daily News reporter who said his experience with an AR-15-style rifle gave him temporary post-traumatic stress disorder said Wednesday that he has never received so much hate mail in his three decades in journalism. "I don't mind spirited debate, but many correspondents told me that...

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In today's society...unfortunately yes.
It's true...

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PTSD isnt just for people who have been to war,
you can get PTSD and CPTSD from many things,

"todays society "is a society that is able to respond to people in crisis and know the warning signs for many mental health disorders at least better than calling it shell shock and saying cheer up bitch to women who needed mental health help from PPA and PPD

I quit drinking coffee and got the worst constipation in my life. I thought I was gonna have to pull it out with ice tongs. I quit in a couple stages, cutting out the energy drinks, then cutting out the coffee consumption. Each time my bowels locked up like Fort Knox. I will never drink those things again. They are too expensive, give me hella anxiety, and the withdrawals have scarred my manhole.

I have been both a long-time (10+ years) heavy user and a long time (year+) ‘renunciate’, and I have had numerous canna-free periods extending months. What I recognize is that as cannabis leaves my body, I begin to hurt, I lose flexibility and energy. Over time I get used to hurting, tightening up, and feeling anxious & physically unmotivated, but I don’t call that “better”...I just get used to it. If this were an addiction, the ‘symptoms’ would vanish or ameliorate over time; the worsening over time of the ‘symptoms’ I mentioned as renunciation continues to my mind, doesn’t match the addiction profile.

However long a ‘canna break’ I might take, returning to use is and always has been the same: whether I got high or not, my body stopped hurting, moving became easier and more comfortable, and I felt less anxiety (I hear not being in pain all the time can do that).

sunni said:

PTSD isnt just for people who have been to war,
you can get PTSD and CPTSD from many things,

"todays society "is a society that is able to respond to people in crisis and know the warning signs for many mental health disorders at least better than calling it shell shock and saying cheer up bitch to women who needed mental health help from PPA and PPD

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PSTD - ' post traumatic ' is a flashback. I think -

I agree with the latter part of what you said but that article is fluffy

mistergrafik said:

PSTD - ' post traumatic ' is a flashback. I think -

I agree with the latter part of what you said but that article is fluffy

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I got ad walled but what I could read was he got Temporary PTSD, and that is a thing and that the ads title didn't include that likely because they want people to click it.

PTSD is not just flash backs, though that is a common stereotype of it, because that's what's most represented in the movies .

PTSD has a lot of symptoms and A TON of people do not get flash backs at all and still have PTSD.

More common symptoms are hypervigilance, being on edge all the time, quick to anger, and nightmares are most common.
A lot of sufferers will hear, or smell, or be reminded of something traumatic in their life, and they will go into a hypervigilance mode, where they are completely on edge, sometimes erratic, their behavior because quite unmanageable, and they often go into outbursts, or become anxious or depressive.

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Day 1 isn't so bad - I was thinking about my espresso all morning though.

Happened to actually get more done this morning lol

I think it makes sense now when I hear " a cup of coffee turns into a long day "

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After one week the daily mourning craving will be away, and it'll be easier to return to wake without it (and become sleepy sooner in the evening). Worst for me is the "sleepiness" as my main withdrawal symptom for 2-3 days.

KK26 said:

As for dreams, I stopped having them years ago. Seriously I did. No dreams for me.

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This is one of the side-effects of overtly "enthusiastic use" of MJ, better: THC - due to the exzito-toxicity of neurons located into the hippocampus, which are 2 regions in our brain that serve our memory, and the braincells there hold a very high number of the endogene Cannabinoid-receptors (CB1) there - so there is a massive over-stimulation and the cells shut down in order to prevent further damage.
They can repair themselves, but they need time for that - and surely no further overstimulation - by chronic abuse.

Kassiopeija said:

After one week the daily mourning craving will be away, and it'll be easier to return to wake without it (and become sleepy sooner in the evening). Worst for me is the "sleepiness" as my main withdrawal symptom for 2-3 days.

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I fell asleep mid day - it was nice, but unnecessary. I almost caved too except replaced with a milk shake lol!

Kassiopeija said:

After one week the daily mourning craving will be away, and it'll be easier to return to wake without it (and become sleepy sooner in the evening). Worst for me is the "sleepiness" as my main withdrawal symptom for 2-3 days.


This is one of the side-effects of overtly "enthusiastic use" of MJ, better: THC - due to the exzito-toxicity of neurons located into the hippocampus, which are 2 regions in our brain that serve our memory, and the braincells there hold a very high number of the endogene Cannabinoid-receptors (CB1) there - so there is a massive over-stimulation and the cells shut down in order to prevent further damage.
They can repair themselves, but they need time for that - and surely no further overstimulation - by chronic abuse.

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I am a chronic user I'd say and I'm very interested in the info you provided @Kassiopeija.

I do like a good read and the topic interests me.

Yes, sad to say I have no dreams at all and to be honest have little memory of years past, biggish events even in all settings and aspects of life.

Strange really because I do notice something mindly happening I think.

I quit (smoking weed) cold turkey when I started going to college (about 5 years of sobriety). From what I remember I never had any type of withdrawal or panic attack. I started smoking weed again after college not due to addiction, but just because I enjoy getting high (like some people enjoy having a drink with lunch). I guess no two peoples experiences are the same. Then again I've fired weapons on many occasions and never come down with PTSD either so go figure.

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I am a chronic user I'd say and I'm very interested in the info you provided @Kassiopeija.

I do like a good read and the topic interests me.

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So here in this study the neuronal toxicity is confirmed; sometimes I wonder if the shutting down of dreams may even be a positive function. Dreams provide chaotic neuronal stimulus - sometimes I dream and only several hours later realize, what I took for real has been just a dream, that imprinted in the way of a false memory - but, how often don't you notice it....?

Too much of anything isn’t good for you...

Common sense.

but we’re human.

roll another.

Here's the truth, as I see it. Human beings have long been cannabis users. Our evolution is so tightly wound to cannabis that we actually have cannaboid receptor sites in our cells. Not only did we smoke the bud and eat it as medicine, we also ate the plant and ate animals who fed on the plants. I believe we need THC and CBD in our bodies to function at our full potential. When we do not, we suffer from inflammation, cancer and a whole host of other ailments. I regularly eat cannabis leaves in salads and stir fries. I smoke the bud. I also use CBD oils. When we go without and feel "withdrawals", it is not actually addictive withdrawals but something more in line with nutrient deficiencies. We don't say people suffering from scurvy are having withdrawals from fruit. By the same token, feeling like shit because you've deprived yourself of cannabinoids is also not addictive withdrawals.

If you have weed there is no logical reason to stop smoking it unless it's causing problems in your personal life or with your health. Guilt, shame, or other moral inflictions should be ignored. Law enforcement is becoming less of an excuse.

Evidence of cannabis use from 2,500 years ago...

Cannabis use 10,000 years ago...

Greenman71 said:

When we go without and feel "withdrawals", it is not actually addictive withdrawals but something more in line with nutrient deficiencies.

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This is truth... most of the food we eat today is grown with man made chemicals (they are actually toxins to the body). Eating food grown with only organic nutrients (manure, bone, blood) is much healthier for the body and will alleviate those aches and pains you are suffering. It also makes your brain function better making it easier to think. Problem is finding food that actually is organic as most of the stuff in the stores that says organic seems not to be 100%.

Diatomacious said:

This is truth... most of the food we eat today is grown with man made chemicals (they are actually toxins to the body). Eating food grown with only organic nutrients (manure, bone, blood) is much healthier for the body and will alleviate those aches and pains you are suffering. It also makes your brain function better making it easier to think. Problem is finding food that actually is organic as most of the stuff in the stores that says organic seems not to be 100%.

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Part of the problem with buying organic from a store is that they wash it with chlorinated town water which removes the beneficial microbes. If I buy vegetables I’m looking for a bit of dirt on them, as a sign of quality/freshness.

My salad tends to come from the yard, and mostly from wild plants. Its not so much about the nutrition or the fibre, its about the microbes and our symbiotic relationship with them.

There is a reason why our food and our medicine is to come from nature.

Freedom seed said:

Part of the problem with buying organic from a store is that they wash it with chlorinated town water which removes the beneficial microbes. If I buy vegetables I’m looking for a bit of dirt on them, as a sign of quality/freshness.

My salad tends to come from the yard, and mostly from wild plants. Its not so much about the nutrition or the fibre, its about the microbes and our symbiotic relationship with them.

There is a reason why our food and our medicine is to come from nature.

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I've only found one farm in the area for vegetables (true organic ones) and the same for beef. The beef is, however, fed some store bought supposedly organic feed which sort of seems like it's not when you eat the meat but I have yet to come across better. The vegetables are 100% organic and I can really tell the difference when I eat them. For me it's not just a fad, it's every single day because when I slip up and eat non-organic stuff all the aches and pains begin to return. Some of those aches and pains can wake me in the middle of the night in agony.

Freedom seed said:

its about the microbes and our symbiotic relationship with them.

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This is something that no medical physician today would admit to... the microbes also fight off other foreign disease that tries to enter the body... if we all ate organic salad once a day I do not believe Covid or many other illnesses would be a problem.