Looking for advice

Louisjr · Apr 24, 2018

Hello my set-up I have is 21 5 gallon pots in a 4’ by 8’ with 2 1200watt lights. My plants are very bushy i been pruning and bending them like crazy, they all seem some what at the same level. The question is or advice I’m looking for is would it be useful still to SCROG? I just put the net up but then I got too thinking “everyone is already bushy is their still a point?” So then that’s why I came one here. I never SCROG growen, I under stand the whole concept of it Just want to know what others thought?? Thanks a head of time!!

Esrgood4u · Apr 25, 2018

Scrog will allow any small side branching to grow like the main central cola.
If your still in veg or the very start of 12/12 the stretch hasn't really started so yes Scrog will work well for you and produce more bud.
Fit the scrog and as the plants central/main branch stretches feed it under the net so when it stretches it will grow sideways instead of straight up. Be careful not to snap it. The side branching will find there way through the netting and stretch for the light source. Do the same with the side branching until you fill the scrog up and every branch seems the same level across the entire canopy. When the buds start to form the should all now get equal amount of light. It's worth trimming/defoaliating EVERYTHING that's under the net as it's all going to die anyway as it will be starved of light.
Good luck

Louisjr · Apr 25, 2018

Esrgood4u said:
Scrog will allow any small side branching to grow like the main central cola.
If your still in veg or the very start of 12/12 the stretch hasn't really started so yes Scrog will work well for you and produce more bud.
Fit the scrog and as the plants central/main branch stretches feed it under the net so when it stretches it will grow sideways instead of straight up. Be careful not to snap it. The side branching will find there way through the netting and stretch for the light source. Do the same with the side branching until you fill the scrog up and every branch seems the same level across the entire canopy. When the buds start to form the should all now get equal amount of light. It's worth trimming/defoaliating EVERYTHING that's under the net as it's all going to die anyway as it will be starved of light.
Good luck

Thank you for the advice. Do you scrog as well?

coreywebster · Apr 25, 2018

21 plants is too many to get the most out of a Scrog in a 8x4. one plant per 2x2 area is about right. (8 plants)
2 x 1200w lights would suggest you have some LED panels I'm guessing. Which may or may not be enough light for your space depending on what lights you have and the real power draw.

Louisjr · Apr 25, 2018

Ya as I’m looking at my garden I’m starting to see that I may limit some plants because some are bushy then some others. My real draw power is 600 for each light, I think that’s plenty of power. But for the most part I think it would help some I guess. But ya like you said corey i think this is to many, because I have 10 different strains. I’ll try to post a pick so you guys can see, If it’s point less never scrog before.

coreywebster · Apr 26, 2018

Louisjr said:
Ya as I’m looking at my garden I’m starting to see that I may limit some plants because some are bushy then some others. My real draw power is 600 for each light, I think that’s plenty of power. But for the most part I think it would help some I guess. But ya like you said corey i think this is to many, because I have 10 different strains. I’ll try to post a pick so you guys can see, If it’s point less never scrog before.

By all means throw one of those loose scrog nets over them for support purposes, that will stop them falling over as the buds swell later. But yeah 21 plants is a lot in a 8x4 by anyones standards.

Indacouch · Apr 26, 2018

coreywebster said:
By all means throw one of those loose scrog nets over them for support purposes, that will stop them falling over as the buds swell later. But yeah 21 plants is a lot in a 8x4 by anyones standards.

3 or 4 in 5gal would take up an 8\4

I'd like to see 21 5gallon pots filled with soil in a 8 by 4 room.

Randomestguy · Apr 26, 2018

Yuuuup scrog is for growing few plants very wide and maximizing space, you've got almost a sog going. You're pretty much asking if it'd help to make your cramped plants wider than they already are.

Louisjr · Apr 27, 2018

Indacouch said:
3 or 4 in 5gal would take up an 8\4

I'd like to see 21 5gallon pots filled with soil in a 8 by 4 room.

They are in smart pots so probably not true 5gal. Hope you can see it well in the picture

Louisjr · Apr 27, 2018

Randomestguy said:
Yuuuup scrog is for growing few plants very wide and maximizing space, you've got almost a sog going. You're pretty much asking if it'd help to make your cramped plants wider than they already are.

Yup pretty much. Just wanted to know what others though. Trying to understand experiment and stuff. You know dos&don’t, waste of time time of stuff.

charface · Apr 27, 2018

Louisjr said:
Ya as I’m looking at my garden I’m starting to see that I may limit some plants because some are bushy then some others. My real draw power is 600 for each light, I think that’s plenty of power. But for the most part I think it would help some I guess. But ya like you said corey i think this is to many, because I have 10 different strains. I’ll try to post a pick so you guys can see, If it’s point less never scrog before.

Running 10 different strains in a scrog is going to present some problems.
Some of them are gonna grow faster than others so you will need to really pay attention and prune accordingly.

When I ran multi strains I never fully made great use of the entire screen.

You will still do good though

Louisjr · Apr 27, 2018

Louisjr said:
They are in smart pots so probably not true 5gal

charface said:
Running 10 different strains in a scrog is going to present some problems.
Some of them are gonna grow faster than others so you will need to really pay attention and prune accordingly.

When I ran multi strains I never fully made great use of the entire screen.

You will still do good though

Yes I am having that problem at the moment. Thanks man.

Jimdamick · Apr 27, 2018

Louisjr said:
Yup pretty much. Just wanted to know what others though. Trying to understand experiment and stuff. You know dos&don’t, waste of time time of stuff.

What strains?
Your going to have an issue if you have any Sativa dom strains

Jimdamick · Apr 27, 2018

Louisjr said:
Yes I am having that problem at the moment. Thanks man.

What headroom do you have?

SheldonCooper · Apr 27, 2018

Is there any photo of the tent with the girls? :bigjoint:

Indacouch · Apr 27, 2018

Louisjr said:
They are in smart pots so probably not true 5gal. Hope you can see it well in the picture

You definitely packed the space.....how are you watering?

Jimdamick · Apr 27, 2018

Indacouch said:
You definitely packed the space.....how are you watering?

With great difficulty?

Louisjr · Apr 27, 2018

Jimdamick said:
What strains?
Your going to have an issue if you have any Sativa dom strains

They all pretty much Sativa dom. I have one God’s bud which I believe is indica and it’s the biggest one.

Louisjr · Apr 27, 2018

Jimdamick said:
What headroom do you have?

I have about 45” left

Louisjr · Apr 27, 2018

Indacouch said:
You definitely packed the space.....how are you watering?

Omg with patience and steady hands so I don’t spill any. I worked up a long Trough type thing to help me water. Lol but it isn’t easy. My plan wasn’t to have this many, But when you buy clones from some people they make you buy 6+ at a time. Some strains I have 3 plants of but each strain I have aleast two of.

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