Mandala Seeds Kalichakra and Satori

nongreenthumb said:

All I am saying though is that an f1 with good genetics should be consistent otherwise the strain wouldn't be considered to be very stable.

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I think this is where the 'F1' moniker comes in, in regards to the plant's stability. My confidential were a straight cross, a mongrel. This is why the plants were weak. But every strain I've grown has had variances in it's females, some may have a little more of this than that, if you see what i mean. Hybrids will always display differing characteristics. Each seed is an individual.

skunkushybrid said:

I think this is where the 'F1' moniker comes in, in regards to the plant's stability. My confidential were a straight cross, a mongrel. This is why the plants were weak. But every strain I've grown has had variances in it's females, some may have a little more of this than that, if you see what i mean. Hybrids will always display differing characteristics. Each seed is an individual.

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I'm not saying that an f1 would be completely one pheno it should be around 60-80% that match the breeders description but the way babygro made the above statement it comes across as being unstable.

I see what you mean, although I've interpreted it differently.

You've gone through a fair few strains yourself, many of them F1's. I'm sure you'd have noted that some will need more nutes than others, despite you (like myself) continuing with the same feeding schedules for all the plants, due to ease. F1's are much more stable in regards to achieving uniformity, yet the seed will still contain a mixture of genes that have come together in the seed while it was still attached to mommy. Maybe two seeds from right next to each other could display exact characteristics as they have come from something approximating the same environment. i.e. that part of the plant may have had access to more lumens, less insect damage etc.

I'm not pretending I understand exactly what happens inside a seed, I'm just guessing based on my experience with growing different strains, so far.

babygro said:

Couple of Mom pics

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Good work mate....they look very healthy! How big you going to let them get? I guess you'll be taking lots of cuttings soon, so that will keep the size down. What size pots you keeping them in long term?

hey Babygrow, Lets see some pics of those "spears" now they must be looking great!

yeah baby, where's the gro?

How's it going dude? Hope all is well.

Come on man......Don't keep us all in suspense.....you must of harvested some fat buds by now?? Pics??? I want to see what I'm going to be enjoying myself in a couple of months time!

I'm just going into week 2 flowering on my Satori's with 3 confirmed females!

Hey Baby-Gro obviously wanted to say first how gr8 your grow is, i just read the entire Thread up to here, having not been on Rollitup of a while, loving it!

So on week 7, how tall have those plants got?? and did you use 2 125w Enviro's for that? because im wanting to use envirolites but not sure how good they would be .
And what sort of light are you considering for flowering?
and what sort of size space have you got for those 8 plants, coincidently thats how many i want to grow too.
thanks a lot gr8 grow.

TheJollyBrother said:

Hey Baby-Gro obviously wanted to say first how gr8 your grow is, i just read the entire Thread up to here, having not been on Rollitup of a while, loving it!

So on week 7, how tall have those plants got?? and did you use 2 125w Enviro's for that? because im wanting to use envirolites but not sure how good they would be .
And what sort of light are you considering for flowering?
and what sort of size space have you got for those 8 plants, coincidently thats how many i want to grow too.
thanks a lot gr8 grow.

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sorry friend
i very much doubt you'll get a response from baby these days

he up and left a while back...

Darn............

Man, what a sad ending to such a great thread. I signed up here because of Baby.

A year later and i still want answers! and pics!

ah damn i just finished reading the whole thread word for word in suspense for that final pic before harvest, to get some idea of what my satoris which just popped will be like, and now i find out i will never know....

Ligerius said:

ah damn i just finished reading the whole thread word for word in suspense for that final pic before harvest, to get some idea of what my satoris which just popped will be like, and now i find out i will never know....

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LOL, so many gripe when you skip throuh pages. Me? I went from page one right to the end.....I don't have time to waste.

babygro said:

Couple of pics of the skinny Sativa dominant Satori. Coming along nicely!

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babygro said:

Bobburn, Chris

Here's a full size pic of the smaller of the two, the larger is about a foot taller than this one! This the smaller of the two Indica looking ones.

Sorry for pic quality - it's really hard to take decent pics of these they're so tall.




Great to hear it Chris - going for Satori?

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very very nice satori's.

whoops necros this one a little sorry forgive me!

skunkushybrid said:

Sometimes you don't even find one. My la mom at the moment is not really an ideal mom. The smoke is excellent. It's just that the original mother died, or rather I killed her after a slip with some nutes. She was never really strong, and one in four of her clones either wilt or grow stunted. I've finally found an excellent mom in my chronic plants. Clones take straight away to any medium and grow vibrant and strong from the out-set. suffice to say, I am now outgrowing the la strain. And you saw what happened to my kush.

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i never could clone chronic, everything else ok, maybe the phenos i had were different, have you noticed any difficulties with any chronic phens?